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ssj3vegeta2
07/05/21 4:04:05 PM
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Do you support dem?



Even withing da lgbt community
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MrToothHasYou
07/05/21 4:07:07 PM
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Bisexuals are often left out as well, and ace/aro people too, but Id say that its accurate to say that transgender people face the most open animosity.

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Shezarr
07/05/21 4:08:31 PM
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Transgender isnt a noun and you know that yet somehow feel the need to be shitty

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Sayoria
07/05/21 4:13:05 PM
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Because we are. Even a lot of LGB people hate us and don't support us.

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ssj3vegeta2
07/05/21 4:48:08 PM
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Wii_Shaker
07/05/21 4:57:18 PM
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They are the least understood. They have the least representation.


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gunplagirl
07/05/21 4:57:58 PM
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Way too many TERFs and even among people who claim to support us, it's conditional upon them not actually doing anything that might improve our quality of life.

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Smackems
07/05/21 4:58:35 PM
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Da transgenders

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Eliza-Schuyler
07/05/21 5:04:19 PM
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id say its either ace/aro people or bisexual people tbh

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ssj3vegeta2
07/05/21 5:08:43 PM
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DravenRainrix
07/05/21 5:11:15 PM
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ssj3vegeta2 posted...
What are TERFs?

Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist.


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BarbaricAvatar
07/05/21 5:14:53 PM
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No different to any other gender: Some of them are nice, some of them are FITH

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mooreandrew58
07/05/21 5:14:56 PM
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MrToothHasYou posted...
Bisexuals are often left out as well, and ace/aro people too, but Id say that its accurate to say that transgender people face the most open animosity.

This. Bis catch flak cause people act like you gotta pick one or the other.

Transgender catches hell cause most people can't wrap their mind around feeling you are the opposite sex.

I'm sorta gender fluid so I kinda understand.

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UnfairRepresent
07/05/21 5:15:19 PM
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A few reasons:

1. It's the newest
2. its harder to understand
3. A lot of people think Transgenderism and homosexuality should not be compared since they are drastically different things
4. There are concerns for transgenders that dont exist for homosexuality

Whether or not an athlete who is currently tackling a girl sucks dick in their spare time is irrelevant

Whether or not an athlete who is currently tackling a girl has male biology is relevant

Sometimes I think progressive do themselves a disservice by lugging causes together if they involve oppression without thought


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ROOTFayth
07/05/21 5:18:07 PM
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I think something people might not think about is ugly people are really not treated as well in general, being good looking is a big edge in life, and women with masculine features are generally not considered good looking bar a few exceptions, so yeah one reason among others probably, also there are those who are insufferable like gunplagirl that really doesnt help viewing the community in a good light
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The Wheelman1
07/05/21 5:29:37 PM
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Nope. Bisexuals are the least liked. I bet a bi man hooking up with a female is frowned upon in the LGBT.

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dj1200
07/05/21 5:35:37 PM
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It is hard to understand that a person can be born the wrong sex.

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Eliza-Schuyler
07/05/21 5:52:23 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
This. Bis catch flak cause people act like you gotta pick one or the other.
yeah dude i get this. i dont see how its so hard to comprehend liking more than one gender broski


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pogo_rabid
07/05/21 5:53:14 PM
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Bisexuals and gay men seem to be the ones getting pushed out the most tbqh

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RedJackson
07/05/21 6:16:16 PM
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I always thought bisexuals got the hardest shaft since they already have two words that describe them and leads people to easily discriminate against them

but I could easily see someone who is transgender getting the shaft, there are some complicated nuances it seems and the intellectuals of the world who want to know everything under the sun cannot comprehend just shut the fuck up and let it happen

I wouldnt really know, these are just observations from I made from the outside looking in


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ssj3vegeta
07/05/21 9:16:37 PM
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DravenRainrix posted...


Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist.


Wow, had no idea
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MrToothHasYou
07/05/21 9:27:21 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
This. Bis catch flak cause people act like you gotta pick one or the other.
Interestingly one bi person I talked to pointed out that with bi guys its always presumed that the dude is secretly gay but not ready to come out as totally gay, and bi women are always presumed to be just experimenting or wanting attention. So no matter what you are the assumption, for reasons that can be debated, always is that you are attracted to men.


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Frizzurd
07/05/21 9:51:25 PM
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Dahhhhh durrrrr doy!
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mooreandrew58
07/06/21 2:42:03 AM
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MrToothHasYou posted...
Interestingly one bi person I talked to pointed out that with bi guys its always presumed that the dude is secretly gay but not ready to come out as totally gay, and bi women are always presumed to be just experimenting or wanting attention. So no matter what you are the assumption, for reasons that can be debated, always is that you are attracted to men.

Yeah pretty much. I find women hotter generally but I seem to give better with guys. And I do find some hot too. But I'm less picky on looks with guys

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stone
07/06/21 3:04:08 AM
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I support everyone except biggots

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Wii_Shaker
07/06/21 3:20:40 AM
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MrToothHasYou posted...
Interestingly one bi person I talked to pointed out that with bi guys its always presumed that the dude is secretly gay but not ready to come out as totally gay, and bi women are always presumed to be just experimenting or wanting attention. So no matter what you are the assumption, for reasons that can be debated, always is that you are attracted to men.

Sure. But people have a problem drawing the line between gender and sexual preference.

Also, I think some the trans hate mostly comes from vestiges of religion. Some people view gender reassignment as spitting in the face of god. I just feel that people should have the right to live the life they want to live and if they aren't hurting other people, let them live their damn life. I have a hard time understanding people who obstruct this.

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sabrestorm
07/06/21 3:24:02 AM
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I support their right to being happy
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ShyOx
07/06/21 3:26:49 AM
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ssj3vegeta2 posted...
Even withing da lgbt community

Is your virginity part of your religion or is this a really elaborate and abstract trolling?

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BlockAddition
07/06/21 3:28:23 AM
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DravenRainrix posted...
Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist.
Sounds offensive

Can we have this term banned please?

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Lokison
07/06/21 3:29:37 AM
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99.9~ of the time, yes. But there are some (rare) circumstances that I would oppose. I dont even know if they've happened, but I always play devils advocate.

Basically what all transphobe fear: Man pretends to be a woman to rape innocent woman. Has this actually happened? Idk, probably not, but that's the type I wouldnt support. All others (unless I missed something) are 110% okay in my book.

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dj1200
07/06/21 3:34:14 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
Transgender catches hell cause most people can't wrap their mind around feeling you are the opposite sex.

the opposite gender. sex would refer to your chromosomes iirc

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dj1200
07/06/21 3:34:38 AM
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BlockAddition posted...
Sounds offensive

Can we have this term banned please?

why?

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Lokison
07/06/21 3:41:41 AM
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DravenRainrix posted...
Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist.
THANK YOU. I've seen the term but never knew what it meant (and was to lazy to google).

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BlockAddition
07/06/21 3:48:15 AM
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dj1200 posted...
why?
because it's offensive?

You can't have moderator protection for some groups and exclude others

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Medussa
07/06/21 3:52:29 AM
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BlockAddition posted...
because it's offensive?

You can't have moderator protection for some groups and exclude others

they literally chose it for themselves

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dj1200
07/06/21 3:58:37 AM
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BlockAddition posted...
because it's offensive?

You can't have moderator protection for some groups and exclude others

how is it offensive?

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Lorenzo_2003
07/06/21 4:54:12 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Sometimes I think progressive do themselves a disservice by lugging causes together if they involve oppression without thought

Thats the problem with intersectionality.

Advocates seem to only recognize its advantages such as strength in numbers, but theyre dismissive of the downsides. Not every group is going to combine well. It can take impressive mental gymnastics to handwave the inconsistencies, such as having feminists easily crap on one oppressive religion but then walk side by side with another oppressive religion.

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The_Korey
07/06/21 4:56:36 AM
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Me thinks Trans are the most hated from the outside of the kommunity, Bisexuals are the most hated within it.

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dj1200
07/06/21 4:50:24 PM
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That makes sense.

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ssj3vegeta_
07/08/21 6:12:47 AM
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Wetterdew
07/08/21 7:00:40 AM
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Lokison posted...
99.9~ of the time, yes. But there are some (rare) circumstances that I would oppose. I dont even know if they've happened, but I always play devils advocate.

Basically what all transphobe fear: Man pretends to be a woman to rape innocent woman. Has this actually happened? Idk, probably not, but that's the type I wouldnt support. All others (unless I missed something) are 110% okay in my book.
but the question was about whether you support actual transgender people, not about whether you support perverts pretending to be transgender so they can assault women

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TommyG663513
07/08/21 7:22:45 AM
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Gender is just way more complicated than sexual orientation which makes social acceptance much more tricky

I mean, bisexual people make the notion of sexuality a good deal more complicated and look at how we deal with that

Remember when everyone thought Caitlin Jenner was like some sort of hero or something? Now we all hate her. People can't quite figure out how to treat trans people.

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