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CE_gonna_CE
07/02/21 8:49:24 AM
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https://kotaku.com/nintendo-can-t-even-get-50-a-month-from-sued-rom-site-1847210881

Suing a video game rom site and being awarded $2.1 million in damages doesnt mean much if the defendant cant pay. Apparently, Nintendos having trouble collecting from RomUniverse founder Matthew Storman, whos already missed a $50 monthly sanctions payment to the video game publisher.

You cant get blood from a stone, and you cant squeeze a relatively measly $50 payment out of a guy whose primary source of income was the video game rom site you sued into oblivion. Earlier this year Nintendos 2019 lawsuit against website RomUniverse concluded with the site being shut down and Nintendo awarded $2.1 million dollars in damages. Thats $35,000 for each of the 49 Nintendo games found on the site plus $400,000 in trademark damages. The chances of Matthew Storman, who defended himself in court and whose only source of income was the now-defunct rom site, being able to pay those damages are incredibly slim. In a recent court filing obtained by Torrentfreak, Nintendo complains that Storman hasnt made his court mandated monthly payment of $50.

In the filing, Nintendo seeks a permanent injunction against Storman to ensure that he does not re-launch RomUniverse and resume distributing video game roms. In the filing, which can be viewed in full at Torrenfreak, Nintendos lawyers cite Stormans inability to give them 50 bucks as a demonstration of his disregard for his legal obligations.

Not only did Defendant not address his violation of the Courts Order in the Opposition, but he continues to ignore the Order and has not yet made any payments to Nintendo, the filing reads. This failure to make even the modest $50/month payment, an amount that he proposed and agreed to, demonstrates that Nintendo has no adequate remedy at law for Defendants past or future infringement and underscores the need for a permanent injunction.

Last month Storman filed a motion to have the court consider not making him pay Nintendo $2.1 million.


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Flauros
07/02/21 8:50:31 AM
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thronedfire2
07/02/21 8:51:27 AM
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Lol if I got sued for 2.1 million theyd never get a cent out of me either

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spikethedevil
07/02/21 8:52:04 AM
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He would really rather go to prison than pay $50 a month?

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Thompson
07/02/21 8:54:16 AM
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Just a reminder, this idiot was charging a fee for downloading roms.

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DaveTheUseless
07/02/21 8:54:44 AM
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Shouldn't have broken the law m8

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RaulJenkins
07/02/21 9:02:15 AM
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Nintendo originally wanted $90,000 in damages per game (from Gamespot article) (15 million vs the agreed 2.1 million)

He broke the law and I can't really defend, but LOL Nintendo. they're a business so I shouldn't expect anything else, but good lord

i am surprised at the 50 dollar a month payment though, that isn't too bad all things considered

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Nemu
07/02/21 9:03:09 AM
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I'd assume they don't really care about the money. They just wanted to send a message and squeeze the guy.
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eston
07/02/21 9:06:08 AM
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Last month Storman filed a motion to have the court consider not making him pay Nintendo $2.1 million.
I lol'd

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Error1355
07/02/21 9:06:45 AM
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A $50 a month payment plan for a $2.1M settlement is pretty generous, tbh.

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IfGodCouldDie
07/02/21 9:09:34 AM
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Error1355 posted...
A $50 a month payment plan for a $2.1M settlement is pretty generous, tbh.
Obviously they don't actually care about collecting, unless they expect this guy to live 3500 years.

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BakonBitz
07/02/21 9:16:15 AM
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Thompson posted...
Just a reminder, this idiot was charging a fee for downloading roms.
No wonder Nintendo went after him, holy shit. That's making money off of shit that's not your own. I understand it costs money to keep a website up, but don't fucking monetize shit like that. Find something else to help fund it.

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ExtremeLuchador
07/02/21 9:19:11 AM
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This is why a bunch of places took down Nintendo-console games or got rid of all games entirely a few years ago. Plus the passage of FOSTA in 2018.

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eston
07/02/21 9:21:21 AM
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BakonBitz posted...
No wonder Nintendo went after him, holy shit. That's making money off of shit that's not your own. I understand it costs money to keep a website up, but don't fucking monetize shit like that. Find something else to help fund it.
It was apparently his primary source of income

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Jabodie
07/02/21 9:22:03 AM
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ExtremeLuchador posted...
This is why a bunch of places took down Nintendo-console games or got rid of all games entirely a few years ago. Plus the passage of FOSTA in 2018.
Good thing I had amassed a set of legal digital backups for my physical copies years prior.

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Solar_Crimson
07/02/21 9:23:57 AM
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Thompson posted...
Just a reminder, this idiot was charging a fee for downloading roms.
Yeah, this is what made me lose all sympathy for him.

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archedsoul
07/02/21 9:28:26 AM
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Not seeing what's wrong here unless there's more to it? He's never going to be able to pay 2 million, so he's probably gonna file for bankruptcy.

Why the fuck should he pay them $50 a month if he's trying to get rid of the whole thing?

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Ivany2008
07/02/21 9:34:36 AM
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I understand Nintendos need to protect their own property, but this just brings up what I've been saying all along: Games older than 20 years old should be free for everyone to play.
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pure_temper
07/02/21 9:38:17 AM
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Ivany2008 posted...
I understand Nintendos need to protect their own property, but this just brings up what I've been saying all along: Games older than 20 years old should be free for everyone to play.

yup

fuck Nintendo tbh

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spikethedevil
07/02/21 9:39:22 AM
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And of course people start defending the guy.

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Turbam
07/02/21 9:40:12 AM
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Dude better get a job then

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VayneSolo
07/02/21 9:52:12 AM
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I believe Nintendo isn't expecting much money (if they expect money at all). They want to punish people and set an example to others.
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VayneSolo
07/02/21 9:54:47 AM
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BakonBitz posted...
Find something else to help fund it.
Like making downloads free but with worms and Trojans (or worse) from third parties in them?
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Robot2600
07/02/21 9:59:50 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
And of course people start defending the guy.

Cause Nintendo is rich as shit, and they shouldn't ruin a guys life over a romsite.

True, he shouldn't have been selling the roms, but JFC just give him 200 hours of community service and call it a day or something.

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spikethedevil
07/02/21 10:01:36 AM
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VayneSolo posted...
Like making downloads free but with worms and Trojans (or worse) from third parties in them?

This isnt the early 2000s anymore.

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spikethedevil
07/02/21 10:02:47 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
Cause Nintendo is rich as shit, and they shouldn't ruin a guys life over a romsite.

True, he shouldn't have been selling the roms, but JFC just give him 200 hours of community service and call it a day or something.

If he didnt charge for someone elses IPs would this have happened?

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Robot2600
07/02/21 10:03:39 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
If he didnt charge for someone elses IPs would this have happened?

Likely he would have got the C&D order but not been sued if he was just hosting the roms.

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Master_Bass
07/02/21 10:04:11 AM
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Lmao. This guy always made makes me laugh. I love how he thought defending himself in court against Nintendo was a good idea.

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spikethedevil
07/02/21 10:05:09 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
Likely he would have got the C&D order but not been sued if he was just hosting the roms.

Exactly, he only has himself to blame.

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VayneSolo
07/02/21 10:05:38 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
This isnt the early 2000s anymore.
Meaning?
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spikethedevil
07/02/21 10:09:50 AM
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Its not the wild west of the internet days where you were taking a dice roll when downloading anything.

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ApherosyLove
07/02/21 10:09:58 AM
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CE_gonna_CE posted...
Last month Storman filed a motion to have the court consider not making him pay Nintendo $2.1 million.
"have you considered...not...making me pay Nintendo 2.1 million?"

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BeyondWalls
07/02/21 10:44:35 AM
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Ill never buy another Nintendo product after this. Imagine a billion dollar company suing this little broke dude into oblivion because he hosted roms from 30 year old games.

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kirbymuncher
07/02/21 10:46:19 AM
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I'm surprised a site like that would only have 49 nintendo roms on it

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Nemu
07/02/21 10:47:15 AM
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BeyondWalls posted...
Ill never buy another Nintendo product after this. Imagine a billion dollar company suing this little broke dude into oblivion because he hosted roms from 30 year old games.
He hosted and profited from it by literally selling them. Even if the result is more like a nuke when all they needed was ground troops, he still deserves what he got for that fact alone.
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Collat
07/02/21 11:02:15 AM
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Ivany2008 posted...
I understand Nintendos need to protect their own property, but this just brings up what I've been saying all along: Games older than 20 years old should be free for everyone to play.
I wouldn't say all games, but games that will never see a rerelease due to licensing issues, the company going out of business etc, should be fair game.

Maybe they could have it apply to any game that hasn't had a re-release or remake within a certain time frame.

Master_Bass posted...
Lmao. This guy always made makes me laugh. I love how he thought defending himself in court against Nintendo was a good idea.
Probably couldn't afford one.
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CE_gonna_CE
07/02/21 11:04:30 AM
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BeyondWalls posted...
Ill never buy another Nintendo product after this. Imagine a billion dollar company suing this little broke dude into oblivion because he hosted roms from 30 year old games.
I have no sympathy for the guy. If he werent charging for them, sure, but not in his case.

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Collat
07/02/21 11:26:03 AM
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I gotta ask who actually pays for roms though? At that point, you may as well hunt down the real games.
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spikethedevil
07/02/21 11:26:32 AM
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BeyondWalls posted...
Ill never buy another Nintendo product after this. Imagine a billion dollar company suing this little broke dude into oblivion because he hosted roms from 30 year old games.

He wasnt just hosting them he was charging for them as well @BeyondWalls


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BeyondWalls
07/02/21 11:29:07 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
He wasnt just hosting them he was charging for them as well @BeyondWalls
Oh.... well...

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BeyondWalls
07/02/21 11:30:07 AM
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Collat posted...
I gotta ask who actually pays for roms though? At that point, you may as well hunt down the real games.
A lot of people use to buy those full rom-set hard drives on ebay.

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archedsoul
07/02/21 11:30:29 AM
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Collat posted...
I gotta ask who actually pays for roms though? At that point, you may as well hunt down the real games.
He wasn't selling roms. He was selling unlimited download accees. Otherwise it was free but capped/limited.

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kingdrake2
07/02/21 11:30:37 AM
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Ivany2008 posted...
Games older than 20 years old should be free for everyone to play.


copyright protection for japan is 70 years from publication of games.
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spikethedevil
07/02/21 11:31:50 AM
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archedsoul posted...
He wasn't selling roms. He was selling unlimited download accees. Otherwise it was free but capped/limited.

So still making money from someone elses IPs.

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spikethedevil
07/02/21 11:32:57 AM
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BeyondWalls posted...
Oh.... well...

His entire business model was making money off of other peoples IPs so fuck him.

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Gwynevere
07/02/21 11:38:13 AM
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We already went through this with the RIAA and file sharing services. When the RIAA sued people for insane amounts, they just filed for bankruptcy and called it a day

What ultimately cut down on piracy big time wasnt legal action, it was streaming services. We're probably gonna see a similar thing with Game Pass, so unless Nintendo enjoys just wasting their time in court, it'd be smart to have a subscription service like Game Pass but for their classic collection

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spikethedevil
07/02/21 11:39:35 AM
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Gwynevere posted...
We already went through this with the RIAA and file sharing services. When the RIAA sued people for insane amounts, they just filed for bankruptcy and called it a day

What ultimately cut down on piracy big time wasnt legal action, it was streaming services. We're probably gonna see a similar thing with Game Pass, so unless Nintendo enjoys just wasting their time in court, it'd be smart to have a subscription service like Game Pass but for their classic collection

Switch already has that for SNES and NES.

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archedsoul
07/02/21 11:39:55 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
So still making money from someone elses IPs.
I didn't deny that. The guy was asking who buys roms when they're available for free elsewhere. I explained who, which is people who want unlimited access and can't wait, because the site itself had free access as well.

Regardless, ALL rom sites are profiting whether they're free or have a membership because they are all supported by ad money, and net profit is net profit, whether it's ad money or membership fees. Not sure why people think this is worse than every other one.

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Gwynevere
07/02/21 11:40:52 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Switch already has that for SNES and NES.
SNES and NES online is a joke of a "collection"

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