Current Events > Seriously, how can democracy work when half of the population are idiots.

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Broseph_Stalin
06/19/21 3:37:32 PM
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powerful both sides take there
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ButteryMales
06/19/21 3:39:32 PM
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Nah, one side is clearly better than the other. Just it's not true that one side isn't those things. The overton window just makes them pretend.
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Broseph_Stalin
06/19/21 3:41:52 PM
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lol yeah man biden is a raging racist, sure
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Criminalt
06/19/21 3:46:06 PM
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It's a flawed system. But the fear that idiot populism puts too much power into the hands of unscrupulous demagogues is far outweighed by the fact that "alternatives" to democracy would concentrate even more power in the hands of a self-appointed and unaccountable elite, with no guarantee that the common good would be any better served. So... Heads or tails?

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hockeybub89
06/19/21 3:47:49 PM
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RedJackson posted...
Nah. Youre trying to make sense of the amount of time youve invested into literal junk that directly disenfranchises others and tell others to put stock in that

If your politics are where you find morality for example then you must be REALLY religious since thats where the concept of formalized law or order begin - but you dont recognize that

Thats literally your example of having an opinion means youre already on the political sphere
How can a spectrum that encompasses e every human being on Earth disenfranchise anyone? What the fuck do you think politics are? The problem is that we try to fit political views into two neat little boxes. We don't respect that it is indeed a spectrum.

I'm literally speaking against the concept of politics as a team sport and you're going off on some weird rant about morality.

The solution to the political climate is not to pretend to be some centrist weirdo with correct apolitical political opinions

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ButteryMales
06/19/21 4:07:44 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
lol yeah man biden is a raging racist, sure
He just stood behind the 1994 crime bill.
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SevenTenths
06/19/21 4:10:40 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
He just stood behind the 1994 crime bill.
But he made juneteenth a holiday. That mostly benefits white people with office jobs.

Racism ended! But you should know better than to engage stallin.

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Broseph_Stalin
06/19/21 4:11:18 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
He just stood behind the 1994 crime bill.

oh god we're back to zoomers talking about a crime bill they don't understand again
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Kegran
06/19/21 4:15:02 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
He just stood behind the 1994 crime bill.
The crime bill wasn't racist although it had the effect of mass incarceration of black people. It was designed to address a growing gang violence problem in the country that is still going on today, but no one cares about anymore and even if they do, no one will talk about it. I can feel the mods eyeing this post just for mentioning it.
Didn't he vote against desegregation though, or did I just make that up? I thought he did.
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SoIidLegacy
06/19/21 4:15:51 PM
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Personally I think we should introduce the concept of subjective voting value, with the value of each vote being decided by a mandatory questionaire that tests one's objective political and societal awareness. The higher the score, the higher the value of the vote.

This way, democracy is less susceptible to fake news and foreign influence. Besides, it makes sense that the people who invest more time investigating how the system works, consider all the options and fact-check things have more of a say than those whose research is little more than clickbait articles and Youtube algorithms.

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SevenTenths
06/19/21 4:16:11 PM
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Kegran posted...
The crime bill wasn't racist
Lmfao

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Kegran
06/19/21 4:19:46 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
Lmfao
It wasn't though. It was meant as a deterrent to stop a growing epidemic of crime. It didn't work.
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Solid Snake07
06/19/21 4:22:59 PM
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Kegran posted...
It wasn't though. It was meant as a deterrent to stop a growing epidemic of crime. It didn't work.


Kind of did, it just created new problems

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sevihaimerej
06/19/21 4:27:52 PM
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Derwood posted...
Half is being generous. In my experience, about 80% of Americans are morons
I'm assuming this is a "Republicans r stupid lol" topic (not that that's incorrect) so the focus isn't on the idiots at the bottom of the left, it's all for those good old-fashioned tribalistic superiority feels. Most people are idiots

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SevenTenths
06/19/21 4:28:13 PM
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Kegran posted...
It wasn't though

SevenTenths posted...
Lmfao


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MaddenDude--
06/19/21 4:47:12 PM
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The founding fathers knew this, thats why a straight democracy never works. That's the reason behind a democratic republic.

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Savoots
06/19/21 5:02:58 PM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
I truly believe everyone is talented at something. But asking people to vote for a political candidate, in a perfect world, requires them to be knowledgeable in a wide variety of topics ranging from economics to foreign policy. Voters are more likely to vote for a candidate based on how many women he slept with than his actual agenda.

Yeah but you have to realize that the reason people are like this is because of propaganda.

The same people campaigning or who make the products we spend money on create this idea that we should follow so that they can have all the power.

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KazGT6
06/19/21 5:27:34 PM
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So you dudes think it's becoming kind of like the movie Idiocracy?
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ButteryMales
06/19/21 6:09:53 PM
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KazGT6 posted...
So you dudes think it's becoming kind of like the movie Idiocracy?
Yes and no. Yes, because of how many idiots there are. No, because we don't have the smartest most capable person be the president.
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KazGT6
06/19/21 6:19:56 PM
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who was the prez in idiocracy? i forget
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ButteryMales
06/19/21 6:29:11 PM
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KazGT6 posted...
who was the prez in idiocracy? i forget
Dwayne Camacho played by Terry Crews and then Joe/Not Sure played by Luke Wilson.
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Samurontai
06/19/21 7:49:19 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
Lmfao

It was incredibly popular among basically every African American politician at the time, and even had heavy support among the general African American population

It just ended up having shitty side affects

also I love how everyone who shits on the crime bill fails to mention that it reduced domestic violence by around 50%, due to the violence against women act, which was a part of said crime bill.

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Goatsensation
06/19/21 7:50:29 PM
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The founding father's had to have taken that into account, right? They couldn't possibly have been that naive?

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ButteryMales
06/19/21 7:57:16 PM
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Samurontai posted...
It was incredibly popular among basically every African American politician at the time, and even had heavy support among the general African American population

It just ended up having shitty side affects
Did these side effects appear after Biden wasn't vice president?
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superman 2000
06/19/21 7:59:17 PM
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Bump, because I want to follow this topic and read people's posts.

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IShall_Run_Amok
06/19/21 8:01:13 PM
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It can't. That's why Republicans oppose education.

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Samurontai
06/19/21 8:04:55 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
Did these side effects appear after Biden wasn't vice president?

I dont even know what youre asking here

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ButteryMales
06/19/21 8:10:45 PM
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Samurontai posted...
ButteryMales posted...
Samurontai posted...
It just ended up having shitty side affects
Did these side effects appear after Biden wasn't vice president?
I dont even know what youre asking here
I get affect and effect mixed up too. Google says side affect is never correct though.
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Samurontai
06/19/21 8:12:06 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
I get affect and effect mixed up too. Google says side affect is never correct though.

Oh lmao. I didnt even realize, my bad

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Gwynevere
06/19/21 8:16:52 PM
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Goatsensation posted...
The founding father's had to have taken that into account, right? They couldn't possibly have been that naive?
We're talking about people from almost 250 years ago. Political ideology has changed a lot since then, and things need to evolve

The system we have in place just flat out does not work

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Nikra
06/19/21 8:18:36 PM
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If half the population thinks that the other half are idiots and vice versa. Then that will give you a full population of idiots. Fact of life. lol
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ButteryMales
06/19/21 8:25:42 PM
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Nikra posted...
If half the population thinks that the other half are idiots and vice versa. Then that will give you a full population of idiots. Fact of life. lol
That makes perfect sense. Once a teacher gives a student an F they instantly need to be replaced. Just a fact of life.
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SevenTenths
06/19/21 8:29:14 PM
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Samurontai posted...


It was incredibly popular among basically every African American politician at the time

Imagine thinking this matters.

Samurontai posted...


It just ended up having shitty side effects

Yeah who would think targeting crimes that white people generally weren't committing would impact minority communities more? Totally wasnt intentional. Just an accident.

You're in denial if you think the same people who passed doma weren't targeting minorities and trying to sell it with bullshit like

Samurontai posted...
also I love how everyone who shits on the crime bill fails to mention that it reduced domestic violence by around 50%, due to the violence against women act, which was a part of said crime bill.


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AlphaCuck
06/19/21 11:52:59 PM
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in the primary kamala said biden is a racist then she accepts his vp lol. this is why people hate politicians

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Geiki Ganger
06/21/21 3:26:46 AM
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AlphaCuck posted...
in the primary kamala said biden is a racist then she accepts his vp lol. this is why people hate politicians

Wait she called him a racist? Really?

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Shadowplay
06/22/21 11:26:19 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
Those people did not have above average intelligence.
Some of them did since some of them were business owners.

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1337toothbrush
06/24/21 8:53:00 AM
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Shadowplay posted...
Some of them did since some of them were business owners.
Business owners are often incredibly stupid.

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RedJackson
06/24/21 9:01:22 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
How can a spectrum that encompasses e every human being on Earth disenfranchise anyone? What the f*** do you think politics are? The problem is that we try to fit political views into two neat little boxes. We don't respect that it is indeed a spectrum.

I'm literally speaking against the concept of politics as a team sport and you're going off on some weird rant about morality.

The solution to the political climate is not to pretend to be some centrist weirdo with correct apolitical political opinions

Nah. Youre cooked, its not morality and it is not encompassing of life itself

You attribute every single issue conceivable under the sun politics as if its the ONLY box that matters because it encompasses matters of all sorts - thats disingenuous to life itself and the actual moral weight of issues

People dont need to be hooked on politics, they need to give a damn about life and stop giving FOX, CNN, politicians and media the time of the day so people can get back to thinking about the world

Discussions on politics lead way to questioning the very idea of a womans body, peoples rights, and is directly responsible for the disenfranchisement of people

Stop giving this shit credit - it doesnt deserve it and it has done absolute dick for society beyond give the absolute bare minimum of life

You can participate in politics with the mindset its a cycle of fuming garbage instead of kissing its ass


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