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mooreandrew58
06/09/21 10:12:48 PM
#51:


hitokoriX posted...
Gill in sf3 (third strike in particular).

Well thats normal in fighters. Seth in 4 is the only boss character I found to be a complete joke. I guess you can say bison doesnt count cause there is akuma that can show up if certain conditions are met. But then there is alpha 3 bison. No gill but he definitely wasnt a slouch either

Then pretty much any snk fighting game boss ive fought.

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ROOTFayth
06/09/21 10:15:45 PM
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FF5 I think
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mooreandrew58
06/09/21 10:17:11 PM
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Metal gear solid v comes to mind. Fuck that sniper one shot tank. Poke your head out from cover at the wrong moment and your done.

Add the fact you cant exit the mission to try different equipment by normal means. I was heated until I got creative and fultoned myself out on a cargo container.

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Kratos122333
06/09/21 10:19:48 PM
#54:


Sekiro's final boss is definitely the hardest.

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HBKick18
06/09/21 10:22:49 PM
#55:


sekiro

it's also the best fight in the game and maybe ever

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AlisLandale
06/09/21 10:23:45 PM
#56:


I'm having a hard time thinking of non-RPGs where this isn't the case tbh.

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mooreandrew58
06/09/21 10:28:53 PM
#57:


AlisLandale posted...
I'm having a hard time thinking of non-RPGs where this isn't the case tbh.

Mgs peace walker. There is a shit ton of optional missions that are hard as fuck with out the highest level gear

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The-Apostle
06/09/21 10:33:24 PM
#58:


Story boss: Majima (Yakuza series)
Optional: Majima or Jo Amon (Yakuza Series)

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TheShadowViper
06/09/21 10:43:40 PM
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Hardest in what manner?

You could have a final boss that has every element of the bosses before it but it could be seen as easier simply because you have seen these elements before and have had the entire game to practice against them.

Gael in Dark Souls 3 for instance, could be considered incredibly difficult for someone who hadn't played for a bazillion hours to get to him, but by Dark Souls veterans to merely be a "good" boss fight.

Like what is the criteria for "hardest" here? Most frustrating? Most things you have to watch out for? The answer to the question depends on what is meant by "hardest".
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kage_53
06/09/21 10:45:39 PM
#60:


Dragon Age Origins.
Fallout 2 if you actually want to fight him.
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rideshort
06/09/21 10:56:51 PM
#61:


DeroIin posted...
Mega Man Battle Network 4

fuck Duo to this day

And then there's Duo SP.

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MagnusDJL
06/09/21 11:07:54 PM
#62:


Megaman X1
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DepreceV2
06/09/21 11:08:29 PM
#63:


Are we talking end game final boss or story final boss?

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Grinderpug
06/09/21 11:09:48 PM
#64:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
Gears of War
Took me FOREVER to beat General Raam by myself the first time thru. I even decided to use the Raam gets stuck glitch when I went thru Ultimate.

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SuperVegitoFAN
06/09/21 11:57:42 PM
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I dont know if ive ever played a game where the post game isnt harder, unless there is no post game, but that just means all games without post game.

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Ryven
06/09/21 11:59:37 PM
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Mario 64 i think counts. The final battle against Bowser is the hardest even though its not overly difficult.

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Flockaveli
06/10/21 12:00:03 AM
#67:


Pokemon Gold

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Hayame Zero
06/10/21 12:00:51 AM
#68:


Ryven posted...
Mario 64 i think counts. The final battle against Bowser is the hardest even though its not overly difficult.
It's so weird, I either do really well or really shitty every time I do it. It's always been like that since I was a kid.

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SuperVegitoFAN
06/10/21 12:01:06 AM
#69:


Ryven posted...
Mario 64 i think counts. The final battle against Bowser is the hardest even though its not overly difficult.

Finally beat that game for the first time on switch earlier this year...

The only part i had trouble with was actually HITTING the bombs.

Lots of trouble with that though.

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mooreandrew58
06/10/21 12:05:02 AM
#70:


What always pissed me off was in jrpgs. Beat this super op optional boss that makes the final boss look like a joke so you can get the most powerful weapon....

Like why. Why do I need this weapon if I didnt need it for the hardest fight of the game? Just so I can make the final boss look like a scrub?

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tainted_emerald
06/10/21 12:14:20 AM
#71:


Mistere Man posted...
Maybe Star Ocean 2 especially with limiter release, it is definitely one of the hardest.
First thing that came to my mind. Especially on Universe mode.

Mega Man X

The Bouncer

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AngelsNAirwav3s
06/10/21 12:14:43 AM
#72:


Kingdom Hearts 3

I dont think I died a single time throughout the game, until I got to the final Xehanort fight, that shit was a huge spike in difficulty

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Kloe_Rinz
06/10/21 12:30:32 AM
#73:


AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Kingdom Hearts 3

I dont think I died a single time throughout the game, until I got to the final Xehanort fight, that shit was a huge spike in difficulty
Not the final one but the one before it IMO, with the guy with the mask
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FLOUR
06/10/21 2:04:20 AM
#74:


A ton of PS1 RPGs qualify. Lunar 2, Sayuki: Journey West, and especially Arc The Lad 2. Get to it, TC!

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Musourenka
06/10/21 7:31:04 PM
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Sega CD Lunar 2.

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TreyFlowers
06/10/21 7:32:48 PM
#76:


mooreandrew58 posted...
What always pissed me off was in jrpgs. Beat this super op optional boss that makes the final boss look like a joke so you can get the most powerful weapon....

Like why. Why do I need this weapon if I didnt need it for the hardest fight of the game? Just so I can make the final boss look like a scrub?

Exactly, so you can go back and pulverize the bosses that made your life hard. Plus, it's not even about using the ultimate weapon, it's about the grind for it.

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Machete
06/10/21 7:33:57 PM
#77:


SerperiorThanU posted...
Touhou games.


I have a much harder time with extra stage bosses... like if I even get to them, I'm done at like the 2nd or 3rd spell card
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Azardea
06/10/21 7:46:16 PM
#78:


BusyGettingLaid posted...
Doom Eternal

Haven't played the DLC though.
The boss of the first DLC is by far the hardest, but I guess that counts as postgame.
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Mistere Man
06/10/21 8:24:56 PM
#79:


Musourenka posted...
Sega CD Lunar 2.
Agreed, and Borgan was pretty tough as well with gravity bomb.

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Musourenka
06/10/21 10:16:39 PM
#80:


Mistere Man posted...
Agreed, and Borgan was pretty tough as well with gravity bomb.

He is, but fortunately, you can mitigate Borgan's Gravity Bomb, which is why I voted Omni-Zophar as the hardest. Plus, even with Pressure Cooker, you still have to worry about Hell Wave and characters getting focus shot (Metal Shot plus other attacks in a single turn).

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Mistere Man
06/10/21 11:41:21 PM
#81:


Musourenka posted...
He is, but fortunately, you can mitigate Borgan's Gravity Bomb, which is why I voted Omni-Zophar as the hardest. Plus, even with Pressure Cooker, you still have to worry about Hell Wave and characters getting focus shot (Metal Shot plus other attacks in a single turn).
Yeah that game had/has some great bosses imo.

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Unsugarized_Foo
06/10/21 11:43:31 PM
#82:


Shenmue

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Noodles_the_dog
06/11/21 12:16:29 AM
#83:


Sekiro
Sonic 2
Chrono Trigger
Persona Q
Bloodborne
No More Heroes 2
Kingdom Hearts 3 and BBS
Super Smash Bros Brawl
Advance Wars 1, 2 and DoR
Hades
Yooka-Laylee
Pokemon Gold/Silver (if Red counts)

Plus most fighting game final bosses

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Naysaspace
06/11/21 12:17:59 AM
#84:


Banjo Kazooie
Jet Force Gemini
Mario 64
1080 Snowboarding
Diddy Kong Racing (I've heard that, arguably, the car race is harder than the plane race, but that could be a result of improved user skills)

yeah, basically everything on the N64.
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TheGoldenEel
06/11/21 12:28:42 AM
#85:


KalimariX8 posted...
I remember the final boss in Dante's Inferno being notably harder than the rest of the game.
I remember him being notably more flaccid

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Josiah_Is_Back
06/11/21 12:37:44 AM
#86:


Zombies Ate My Neighbors (SNES)

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KalimariX8
06/11/21 3:34:38 AM
#87:


TheGoldenEel posted...
I remember him being notably more flaccid
You made me laugh, cheers haha.

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Dingydang166
06/11/21 3:43:32 AM
#88:


The Last Remnant's final boss is pretty fucked up if you get his true form
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Elmdor043
06/11/21 3:47:21 AM
#89:


Srk700 posted...
Enter the Gungeon

The Heart in Slay the Spire

That's if you count true final bosses that are optional, though EtG would still count anyway since the Dragun is the next hardest after the true final boss.

I think the floor 4 bosses are harder than the High Dragun tbh.

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radical rhino
06/11/21 3:49:24 AM
#90:


Banjo Tooie
Donkey Kong Country 1-3
Majoras Mask without fierce dirty link
No More Heroes 2
Viewtiful Joe 2

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tri sapphire
06/11/21 4:13:17 AM
#91:


Noodles_the_dog posted...
Chrono Trigger
Technically?

I mean, does it still count as the final boss if you're doing it solo in a New Game+, or if it's the harder version that pops up in the Ocean Palace?

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LinkPizza
06/11/21 11:42:51 AM
#92:


radical rhino posted...
Majoras Mask without fierce dirty link

I dont think Ive ever tried that. I like getting 100%, so I always have it. But I dont know if Ive ever fought him without it...
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Hambo the Hog
06/11/21 11:56:58 AM
#93:


LinkPizza posted...
I dont think Ive ever tried that. I like getting 100%, so I always have it. But I dont know if Ive ever fought him without it...
It's neat cuz each phase lasts more than twenty seconds. Also it has weaknesses to different masks and items that you collected throughout the game.

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Shotgunnova
06/11/21 12:01:53 PM
#94:


mooreandrew58 posted...
I was heated until I got creative and fultoned myself out on a cargo container.
lmao

Never tried that. I definitely got stuck in that mission before, though, and had to get creative. Pretty sure it involved mining a road (which I had for some reason) and fultoning enemy tanks with little interest in stealth. Whatever works!

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apocalyptic_4
06/12/21 11:31:21 PM
#95:


Outlander

1st time in my life I lowered the difficulty on a boss. The game is multiplayer focused so I blame that and my build did me no help on that bosses setups.

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