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Rob Cesternino
12/01/21 5:48:34 AM
#252:


It's finally here! Decent debut for IVE. Excited to see Yujin and Wonyoung again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--FmExEAsM8

If I'm being honest though, Everglow's new song (and almost all their songs) has me hooked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2X-pL06628

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_BIueMonk
12/01/21 11:46:56 AM
#253:




lol i dont remember listening to IU that much but i guess i did lol.

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KaZooo
12/01/21 8:25:30 PM
#254:


Rob Cesternino posted...
It's finally here! Decent debut for IVE. Excited to see Yujin and Wonyoung again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--FmExEAsM8

If I'm being honest though, Everglow's new song (and almost all their songs) has me hooked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2X-pL06628

Ironically I've been less into Everglow.
I like the group, they nail their performances, I can't say the songs sound bad, but their direction has been something different to digest. I also wouldn't say that's bad. But "First" and "Pirate" are just taking some getting used to. It's not quite the catchy gimmick spa pulls for me.

IVE has sounded really good. It's a little "safe", but it's a nice showcase of how refined the group is as a whole to start. They are somewhat boosted by the IZ*ONE fame via Yujin and Wonyoung, but there is a certain quality not all rookie groups come with, and I think that just comes with Starship as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pjWi5POJvI

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_BlueMonk
12/01/21 11:36:56 PM
#255:


Spotify reveals its most played kpop tracks
https://www.soompi.com/article/1501623wpp/spotify-reveals-top-k-pop-artists-and-songs-of-2021

  1. BTSs Butter
  2. BTSs Dynamite
  3. BTSs Permission to Dance
  4. BTSs Life Goes On
  5. BLACKPINKs How You Like That
  6. BTSs Boy With Luv (featuring Halsey)
  7. BLACKPINKs Ross On The Ground
  8. BTSs Film Out
  9. BLACKPINKs Lisas MONEY
  10. BLACKPINKs Ice Cream (with Selena Gomez)





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KaZooo
12/02/21 12:38:13 AM
#256:


Eh. Not to take away from them, but both those groups seem so mindlessly milked.


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KaZooo
12/02/21 10:11:07 PM
#257:


Daesang

We did it

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paerarru
12/03/21 12:45:43 AM
#258:


Mmmm... donuts... drool...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcOSUOpACq0

Rob Cesternino posted...
It's finally here! Decent debut for IVE. Excited to see Yujin and Wonyoung again.

Love it! The next generation is here. Second watch/listen is delicious. Beat reminds me of f(x)!

_BlueMonk posted...
Spotify reveals its most played kpop tracks

Yeah, this is what passes for kpop these days. "Back in the days...!"

_BIueMonk posted...
lol i dont remember listening to IU that much but i guess i did lol.

That's more like it. Stayc girls, it's going down.

KaZooo posted...
Daesang

We did it

yassssss

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KaZooo
12/04/21 4:00:21 AM
#259:


Some of the recent stuff just all sounding good to me.
IVE - I'm not 100% sure about live vocals yet, but if their range is rally that dynamic, great.
Hwasa
the recent NCT/WayV track videos.
Everglow

I think my peeve with "Pirate" is that the lyrical concept kinda just got plopped in there. It sounds good otherwise. I'm totally there with Mia's vocals through the bridge.

I kinda don't like when a group gets too heavy on one member, but it's been fascinating how much YueHua has invested into her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCOtw45wuag

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Rob Cesternino
12/08/21 9:14:10 PM
#262:


https://www.allkpop.com/article/2021/12/ive-members-shed-tears-as-they-take-home-their-first-music-show-win-in-the-shortest-time

Behold, the power of Wonyoung. This the fastest a girl group has won an award EVER.

paerarru posted...
Love it! The next generation is here. Second watch/listen is delicious. Beat reminds me of f(x)!

4th generation right? Kep1er will be joining them very shortly.

KaZooo posted...
I kinda don't like when a group gets too heavy on one member, but it's been fascinating how much YueHua has invested into her.

In this case, I think it's KBS not Yuehua, right? But yeah, Wang Yiren is kinda the face of Everglow. It's a very cute face too.

Kep1er's new show is out. I'm totally rooting for Yujin and Yeseo, and maybe Shen Xiaoting. Interesting how there's a 10 year age gap between Yujin and Yeseo.

https://youtu.be/6el0ZjBa2ks

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KaZooo
12/08/21 9:37:25 PM
#263:


Rob Cesternino posted...
In this case, I think it's KBS not Yuehua, right? But yeah, Wang Yiren is kinda the face of Everglow. It's a very cute face too.
Was talking about Mia. They shamelessly throw so many lines in her direction. And to her credit, she takes it like a champ. Her live vocals are solid. iirc, Yuehua kept her from contest shows and generally she was one of those trainee's seemingly no one knew of.

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paerarru
12/10/21 12:35:13 AM
#264:


Rob Cesternino posted...
Behold, the power of Wonyoung. This the fastest a girl group has won an award EVER.

Wow. That's crazy. And awesome. Keeping an eye on them for sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiv5Tq5YbM8

Their b side from the showcase, I like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zZVsL5JF_8

4th generation right? Kep1er will be joining them very shortly.

For girls, yup. Although in a way it's already been going on with groups like Itzy, Everglow, etc, there's no clear cut but I mean now it's in full swing.

Kep1er's new show is out. I'm totally rooting for Yujin and Yeseo, and maybe Shen Xiaoting. Interesting how there's a 10 year age gap between Yujin and Yeseo.

You know what's up. Second ep came out today! I'm getting to know a lot of the members I didn't pay attention to during GP. Also yeah I don't know what it is with these maknaes but many times they're the ones that catch my eye, sometimes like Leeseo before I even know who they are and they end up becoming my bias.

KaZooo posted...
Was talking about Mia. They shamelessly throw so many lines in her direction. And to her credit, she takes it like a champ. Her live vocals are solid. iirc, Yuehua kept her from contest shows and generally she was one of those trainee's seemingly no one knew of.

I also thought you meant Yiren at first because of the thumbnail lol, until I realized you were referring back to Mia. I don't know, they're getting good use out of their main vocalist.

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PumpkinCoach
12/10/21 2:37:42 AM
#265:


mia fucking rules and there are few things more tiresome in kpop than line distribution discourse imo

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paerarru
12/10/21 8:37:10 AM
#266:


PumpkinCoach posted...
mia fucking rules and there are few things more tiresome in kpop than line distribution discourse imo

Hmm, why do you find it tiresome?

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PumpkinCoach
12/10/21 10:55:26 AM
#267:


- good line distribution apparently is to have as even a pie chart as possible without regard for positions or what fits the song best
- hyperfixates on title tracks or a title track without considering the whole discography
- relies on line distribution videos that are often wrong anyway
- you can have impactful lines without having a lot of lines
- some people in a group are just better singers than others and that's completely fine because the point of a group is to fill in for each other's lack and ultimately singing is only one part of what idol's do. like i think back to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifmIr30SGoQ

and there's no way you're telling me that yoona and heechul don't pull their weight or aren't given opportunities, just because they don't have long parts in title songs.
- underappreciates aces like mia, as if the major difference between them and others is opportunity
- what matters is that the song sounds good, stop backseat producing

that's mostly it i think

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paerarru
12/10/21 12:16:44 PM
#268:




XD

PumpkinCoach posted...


Hmm, but maybe there's a way to talk about line distribution smart, taking all those points into account? Otherwise yes, I actually pretty much completely agree with you on every point. But I think it can be good, nerdy talk if it's done right. It can be interesting to see whom they give which lines. Not critically, just analytically.

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PumpkinCoach
12/10/21 5:34:06 PM
#269:


oh for sure, it could be interesting to consider from a production standpoint, but it's kpop fans so it's almost always about quantifying things unnecessarily for fanfare bullshit.

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_BIueMonk
12/11/21 11:41:50 AM
#270:


PumpkinCoach posted...
oh for sure, it could be interesting to consider from a production standpoint, but it's kpop fans so it's almost always about quantifying things unnecessarily for fanfare bullshit.
I think the most important discourse fans can have in kpop is is Sana gay????

I say yes. Saida is real

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paerarru
12/11/21 4:20:16 PM
#271:


https://i.imgur.com/uVKkdSp.gifv

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_BIueMonk
12/12/21 12:26:52 AM
#272:


remember when Blackpink (as a group) used to make music?

ah, those were the days.

anyway, nowadays all i see is jennie posing in her underwear so i guess yay for her?

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KaZooo
12/12/21 3:11:06 AM
#273:


The Enyphen performances at MAMA were pretty solid, although I don't care much for the songs themselves outside of that.

_BIueMonk posted...
remember when Blackpink (as a group) used to make music?

ah, those were the days.

anyway, nowadays all i see is jennie posing in her underwear so i guess yay for her?

Always felt like BP's slow release schedule was deliberate, with songs planned way early in advance for a timely release.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yhS1POCPOU
This is where credit goes to YG, they thought out a gameplan. Of course part of the issue is fans are just blindly throwing themselves at the group, but to start that madness is a success.

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Mezcla
12/12/21 9:28:17 AM
#274:


KaZooo posted...
Always felt like BP's slow release schedule was deliberate, with songs planned way early in advance for a timely release.
maybe if they were good. but it seems that Teddy just runs a "make music" script on his laptop or just finds an old song and renames it "2ne1hottrack-> bphottrack"

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Snip-N-Snails
12/14/21 5:45:13 AM
#275:


lol forgot I posted itt 4 months ago

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KaZooo
12/14/21 9:08:45 PM
#276:


waiting for that next nvis kwangya track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i80gFHz7kt0

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paerarru
12/15/21 1:26:09 PM
#277:


_BIueMonk posted...
remember when Blackpink (as a group) used to make music?

ah, those were the days.

I do remember, fondly and wistfully.



anyway, nowadays all i see is jennie posing in her underwear so i guess yay for her?

Well I mean yay for us, too.

Snip-N-Snails posted...
lol forgot I posted itt 4 months ago

The only cure for that is to post more!

KaZooo posted...
waiting for that next nvis kwangya track

That song came out 23+ years ago (and it's actually a remake of an even older song) and SM is STILL squeezing it. That's how you run a business.


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KaZooo
12/15/21 9:23:21 PM
#278:


paerarru posted...


That song came out 23+ years ago (and it's actually a remake of an even older song) and SM is STILL squeezing it. That's how you run a business.
duh, I did watch the SES remaster a few weeks ago too. That flew over my head.

For Aespa I guess this is their holiday pattern like "Forever"


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paerarru
12/16/21 12:47:12 PM
#279:


KaZooo posted...
duh, I did watch the SES remaster a few weeks ago too. That flew over my head.

For Aespa I guess this is their holiday pattern like "Forever"

lol. yup seems like it although SM in particular but really all through the industry I know you know they just put a winter coat on any old song and send it or something like that. which is fine with me and yeah specially with spa it's a nice change, I loved Forever. and punnity punny puns, speaking of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HsdU04tRUI

Remember it's not Givenchy or even Givenchy, it's Givenchy. And see it looks like they had their coats on the float even and just took them off for the perf (but still yeah).

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KaZooo
12/20/21 4:11:05 AM
#281:


Kept(? Haven't revisited the previous version) the broken English lines and weird bridge in there, but as with everything they put out, just gonna roll with it.

https://youtu.be/H69tJmsgd9I

Otherwise...
Winter's start of the second verse
Karina's part of the normal half of the bridge
/that's it

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paerarru
12/22/21 12:14:45 AM
#282:


KaZooo posted...
but as with everything they put out, just gonna roll with it.

Nodnod. That's basically half of being MY. Don't question it, don't try to make sense of it, just roll with it.

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Mezcla
12/22/21 10:25:45 AM
#283:


well twice starts their new concert tour this weekend in seoul. excited to finally be seeing them in february at their oakland show.

hopefully omicron doesn't cancel the event >:(

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paerarru
12/22/21 6:15:51 PM
#284:


Mezcla posted...
well twice starts their new concert tour this weekend in seoul. excited to finally be seeing them in february at their oakland show.

Cheers! Take pics.

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KaZooo
12/24/21 8:10:59 PM
#285:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85i3GC9AVfU

Cool to see more of BoA's involvement in the production.

I wouldn't say mixing up the rap/vocal parts should be all that daring, though. I thought one point of the group was showcasing versatility. It's not like Giselle is helpless like E:U or Lisa when singing.

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KaZooo
12/26/21 2:46:19 AM
#286:


Had to double take which sister this was.
https://youtu.be/jQNEiHzIcX4

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KaZooo
12/28/21 2:23:43 AM
#287:


Need to keep these dreams coming true

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Mezcla
12/28/21 2:25:47 AM
#288:


KaZooo posted...
Had to double take which sister this was.
https://youtu.be/jQNEiHzIcX4
Minnie


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KaZooo
12/30/21 1:47:56 AM
#289:


need to hang on for that GOT release

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Mezcla
12/30/21 12:59:51 PM
#290:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CXyca19hus8/

ohhh shit we about to get another Wonder Baby!!!!

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KaZooo
01/01/22 2:03:53 AM
#291:


More into the performance than the song atm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60OafO8QQCE

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paerarru
01/01/22 3:25:31 AM
#292:


KaZooo posted...
More into the performance than the song atm

Unavailable :( What is it? I was just watching this on Running Man (not the whole perf of course), so unofficially they've been to RM which might be some kind of record lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_8DZSZedVY

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KaZooo
01/01/22 3:31:45 AM
#293:


paerarru posted...
Unavailable :( What is it? I was just watching this on Running Man (not the whole perf of course), so unofficially they've been to RM which might be some kind of record lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_8DZSZedVY
SM express concert with their Girls On Top supergroup

Karina
Winter
BoA
Taeyon
Selling
Wendy
Hyoyeon

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paerarru
01/01/22 3:34:35 AM
#294:


KaZooo posted...
SM express concert with their Girls On Top supergroup

Karina
Winter
BoA
Taeyon
Selling
Wendy
Hyoyeon

Ooh! Thanks, I'll keep an eye for that.

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Mezcla
01/01/22 3:35:48 AM
#295:


i love Winter

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paerarru
01/01/22 4:16:11 AM
#296:


Mezcla posted...
i love Winter

She makes one suddenly smile like an idiot

Found GOT but no audio, that seems to make it an instant strike right now, which makes sense.

EDIT: well that was quick, that was Dreams Come True lol

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PumpkinCoach
01/01/22 11:58:10 AM
#297:


it's that time of year

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCMoLL8mA8nxkjs699aHEfYcpCfmDCGmx

100. BAE173 - Loved You
99. Keembo - Inside
98. cignature - Boyfriend
97. Onewe - Veronica
96. Itzy - Sooo Lucky
95. 015B - Uncertainty Principle (feat. Dawon)
94. Ateez - Eternal Sunshine
93. Colde, Jeon Soyeon - New Vision
92. Tri.be - Doom Doom Ta
91. Luna - Madonna

90. Lightsum - Vivace
89. Lucy - I Got U
88. Ahn Ye Eun - Sailing
87. IU - My Sea
86. Raiden - Side Effect (feat. Miyeon ((G)I-DLE))
85. The8 - Side By Side
84. WJSN - Super Moon
83. Stray Kids - Cheese
82. Ghost9 - Seoul
81. bugAboo - bugAboo

80. Hondam - Bloom
79. NCT 127 - Breakfast
78. Golden Child - Cool Cool
77. Enhypen - Drunk-Dazed
76. ONF - Popping
75. Ravi - Ani (feat. Soyeon ((G)I-DLE))
74. BTOB - Show and Prove
73. T-ara - All Kill
72. Younha - Stardust
71. NCT 2021 - Beautiful

70. Seventeen - Rock with you
69. Jang Han Byul - Use To This
68. Kim Sung Kyu - Hush
67. Nell - Beautiful Jeopardy
66. Do Han Se - Take Over
65. (G)I-DLE - Where is love
64. Dreamcatcher - Whistle
63. Cherry Bullet - Love So Sweet
62. NCT 127 - Dreamer
61. Kang Daniel - Paranoia

60. PIXY - Bewitched
59. VERIVERY - Trigger
58. Ateez - Take Me Home
57. Lucy - Buddy
56. Pink Fantasy - Poison
55. A.C.E - Changer
54. Super Junior - Burn the Floor
53. Heartcore - 60 BPM
52. Younha - Oort Cloud
51. Dreamcatcher - BEcause

50. Ghost9 - Uno
49. Lucy - One by One
48. SHINee - Atlantis
47. Jeon Soyeon - Is this bad b****** number? (feat. BIBI, Lee Young Ji)
46. (G)I-DLE - Lost
45. EPEX - Do 4 Me
44. NCT 127 - Promise You
43. Oh My Girl - My doll
42. TXT - LOSER=LOVER
41. WOODZ - Waiting

40. Pentagon - 10s and
39. Jeon Soyeon - Weather
38. Heize - Happen
37. Key - Bad Love
36. Red Velvet - Pose
35. MCND - H.B.C
34. Hondam - Baekchimi
33. Golden Child - Fanfare
32. Purple Kiss - Zombie
31. Oneus - Luna

30. IU - Lilac
29. Wonho - Lose
28. Jeon Soyeon - Quit
27. AKMU - Hey kid, Close your eyes (with Lee Sun Hee)
26. Stayc - Slow Down
25. WOODZ - Chaser
24. Pentagon - Cerberus (Song by Yuto, Kino, Wooseok)
23. (G)I-DLE - Moon
22. Everglow - Promise (for UNICEF Promise Campaign)
21. Pentagon - That's Me

20. Billlie - Ring x Ring
19. WJSN The Black - Easy
18. Yuqi - Bonnie & Clyde
17. Jeon Soyeon - Psycho
16. Oneus - Rewind
15. DreamNote - Ghost
14. NCT 127 - Sticker
13. Weeekly - After School
12. WJSN - Unnatural
11. Taemin - Advice

10. Brave Girls - After We Ride
9. Pentagon - Do or Not
8. (G)I-DLE - Hann (Alone in winter)
7. CIX - Cinema
6. Jeon Soyeon - Beam Beam
5. ONF - Beautiful Beautiful
4. (G)I-DLE - Dahlia
3. N.Flying - Moonshot
2. Adora - Make U Dance (feat. Eunha of Viviz)
1. (G)I-DLE - Hwaa

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KaZooo
01/01/22 6:04:52 PM
#298:


@paerarru posted...
She makes one suddenly smile like an idiot

Found GOT but no audio, that seems to make it an instant strike right now, which makes sense.


In case you haven't caught it yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBY1AoiF5Vo

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KaZooo
01/02/22 12:56:29 AM
#299:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-X9VOOPw7s

Another cool collab stage.

First glance I keep thinking those IVE members are still newbs for the group being new and younger, but literally Yujin and Wonyoung have one more year under their belt than Yeji.

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paerarru
01/02/22 8:57:05 PM
#300:


KaZooo posted...


Another cool collab stage.

First glance I keep thinking those IVE members are still newbs for the group being new and younger, but literally Yujin and Wonyoung have one more year under their belt than Yeji.

Nice, these covers and collabs have always been one of my favorite things in Kpop, all kinds. Ryujin's was excellent too but I LOVED this one, everything about it (although it's funny how they hiked up the shorter girls a little more just so they'd be more even with the towers).

Again yeah you're right, these are no rookies anymore, besides Wonyo's always been a natural and Yujin's just a genius on stage; every good group has their aces of course and there are many girls who are better in one area or another but there's only a few girls with that perfectionist drive who completely dominate their performance to that level, however little they may lack in natural talent and charisma they more than make up with technique (Ryujin's another for example, Soyeon, etc).

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Rob Cesternino
01/04/22 3:44:51 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0j5NPptyM0

Woohoo Kep1er's debut is finally here!

It's surreal to see Yujin back on stage and in a much more popular group. Second chances like this are extremely rare in Kpop.

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