Current Events > Only 40% of America is vaccinated

(+) Yeah! (+)

but we ready to lift mask mandates tho



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https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/25/politics/half-of-americans-fully-vaccinated-covid/index.html

Adults vs everyone

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Add in the peeps who already got sick or been believed to be sick and it's not as terrifying

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I think it is approaching 70% of adults having at least one dose

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Sorry for your flopic.

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They really bungled the whole vaccine thing.

Should've easily been able to go "At 50% vaccinated, eased mask restrictions determined at the time of hitting 50%. Then at 75%, no masks inside"

Should've been able to get the numbers. But now you got people acting like "Vaccinated people can go without masks? No masks for me then, i ain't putting that government tracking chip in me!"

I'm not speaking against the vaccine or anything, it just hurts to see how bad the messaging was

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wackyteen posted...

They really bungled the whole vaccine thing.

Should've easily been able to go "At 50% vaccinated, eased mask restrictions determined at the time of hitting 50%. Then at 75%, no masks inside"

Should've been able to get the numbers. But now you got people acting like "Vaccinated people can go without masks? No masks for me then, i ain't putting that government tracking chip in me!"

I'm not speaking against the vaccine or anything, it just hurts to see how bad the messaging was

yeah but thats water under the bridge, literally every country with a couple exceptions handled the pandemic easily with minimal loss of human life. Even in China where it supposedly originated they opened back up last year BEFORE the vaccine!!!

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So let's see, they've tried to incentivize the vax with sugary treats, lottery winnings, gift cards, petty cash, promises of giving your rights back and dating app boosts. What else they got up their sleeves?

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Kolibri X posted...

So let's see, they've tried to incentivize the vax with sugary treats, lottery winnings, gift cards, petty cash, promises of giving your rights back and dating app boosts. What else they got up their sleeves?

You tell us. What's it going to take for you?

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the vaccinated will protect the unvaccinated with their barrier of curve flattening

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Yeah, I don't understand why we're opening up and lifting covid restrictions. We're obviously not ready yet.

Going to be a uphill battle to convince the other 60% they feel very strong in their convictions. Myself included

Kolibri X posted...

So let's see, they've tried to incentivize the vax with sugary treats, lottery winnings, gift cards, petty cash, promises of giving your rights back and dating app boosts. What else they got up their sleeves?

Imagine being such a coward that over half of America is less scared of something than you

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not even the promise of freedom can incentivize americans to vaccinate themselves? i thought they loved freedom!

2Pacavelli posted...

Going to be a uphill battle to convince the other 60% they feel very strong in their convictions. Myself included

No offense, well maybe a little, you don't have convictions. You're just irrationally conspiratorial.

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ncsonic posted...

Even in China where it supposedly originated they opened back up last year BEFORE the vaccine!!!

That's because they, like other places such as New Zealand, have super strict requirements for reentry, have 14 to 21 day quarantines when reentering, country-wide tracking of cases, and immediate lockdowns when a domestic case is discovered.

pistachio12 posted...

That's because they, like other places such as New Zealand, have super strict requirements for reentry, have 14 to 21 day quarantines when reentering, country-wide tracking of cases, and immediate lockdowns when a domestic case is discovered.

These people aren't smart. They're paranoid nutcases who live and breathe conspiracies because their entire worldview is shaped by them.

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DarkRoast posted...

Imagine being such a coward that over half of America is less scared of something than you

But I'm not afraid of covid. Like, at all.

CyricZ posted...

You tell us. What's it going to take for you?

Realistically nothing. Ugh, I'm sorry but I'm just never getting it. Ha ha!

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Kolibri X posted...

But I'm not afraid of covid. Like, at all.

Realistically nothing. Ugh, I'm sorry but I'm just never getting it. Ha ha!

Meh, you never leave your mom's basement anyway

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how can you be afraid of the vaccine but not afraid of covid, it doesn't make sense, do you even math?

ROOTFayth posted...

how can you be afraid of the vaccine but not afraid of covid, it doesn't make sense, do you even math?

"i've not seen anyone die from it, personally, but my uncle's brother's sisters cat's second owner had a 102.5 fever after getting the vaccine so fuck that shit"

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wackyteen posted...

They really bungled the whole vaccine thing.

Should've easily been able to go "At 50% vaccinated, eased mask restrictions determined at the time of hitting 50%. Then at 75%, no masks inside"

Should've been able to get the numbers. But now you got people acting like "Vaccinated people can go without masks? No masks for me then, i ain't putting that government tracking chip in me!"

I'm not speaking against the vaccine or anything, it just hurts to see how bad the messaging was

Yeah I felt the exact same way about Costco, Wal-Mart and Target. They easily could have done something like this,

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Kolibri X posted...

So let's see, they've tried to incentivize the vax with sugary treats, lottery winnings, gift cards, petty cash, promises of giving your rights back and dating app boosts. What else they got up their sleeves?

Tax people who don't get the vaccine extra. We've already tried the carrot, and it doesn't work. Stupid people need to be forced.

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ROOTFayth posted...

how can you be afraid of the vaccine but not afraid of covid, it doesn't make sense, do you even math?

You are completely misunderstanding the hesitancy. Yes, there are some people who just won't take it because they recently had covid, and some who have health concerns, but overwhelmingly our government and institutions failed failed so many people that there is no institutional trust in either the governments actually possibly having altruistic motives (particularly minorities are hesitant to get the vaccine), or the medical community to be anything but parasites trying to make a buck. Does not help that they made a big vaccine spokesperson the non-medical doctor Bill Gates, who is widely recognized as a man with bad intentions who is a fan of eugenics. It is why even "offering free stuff" does not help - many who are hesitant don't need a toy or a prize to be interested, and the government being so desperate to offer free stuff only makes them more suspicious of their motivations. We can't continually be a country that treats its people like shit, has no social safety net, the largest prison population, has a history of experimenting on the poor and minority population, introducing drugs purposefully into those communities, etc etc and expect people to have institutional trust. So yes, many young and healthy people are absolutely not gonna take their chances on trusting them and that problem can only be fixed by our government just fundamentally changing how it treats its citizens to regain trust.

Squall28 posted...

Tax people who don't get the vaccine extra. We've already tried the carrot, and it doesn't work. Stupid people need to be forced.

Thats not unconstitutional or invasive enough

We should do a purge, but everyone has dart guns with vaccines. You can put a bounty on peoples heads

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Kolibri X posted...

But I'm not afraid of covid. Like, at all.

Realistically nothing. Ugh, I'm sorry but I'm just never getting it. Ha ha!

"I'm not afraid of driving drunk" says man driving drunk

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but overwhelmingly our government and institutions failed failed so many people that there is no institutional trust in either the governments actually possibly having altruistic motives (particularly minorities are hesitant to get the vaccine), or the medical community to be anything but parasites trying to make a buck.



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that picture has literally nothing to do with what you quoted

fuming posted...

that picture has literally nothing to do with what you quoted

Nah, it's perfectly indicative of the endless need for idiots to give their shit takes

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and what does that have to do with what I said?

fuming posted...

and what does that have to do with what I said?

It shows how ineffectively the government handled this

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Unsugarized_Foo posted...

It shows how ineffectively the government handled this

and where did I said anything about the government being effective/ineffective? I said people, particularly those who are minorities, do not think the government could be pushing something for altruistic reasons. it is a problem with institutional trust that the actions of the government have directly caused. obviously, you can see that vaccines have been effective at slowing the spread of covid, but there are very few people who are not taking the vaccine because they think the vaccine is ineffective at preventing covid.

Same difference

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do not think the government could be pushing something for altruistic reasons

Maybe we don't want people to fucking die from a pandemic

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okay so neither of you actually care about understanding the hesitancy and where it comes from or how it could be addressed in the future, and this is all just about feeling superior and calling everyone stupid. typical lib shit.

My countys at 58% (72% of adults)

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fuming posted...

okay so neither of you actually care about understanding the hesitancy and where it comes from or how it could be addressed in the future, and this is all just about feeling superior and calling everyone stupid. typical lib shit.

Here's how it can be addressed:

Stop "just asking questions"
Stop talking about Fucking Bill Gates

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DarkRoast posted...

Here's how it can be addressed:

Stop "just asking questions"
Stop talking about Fucking Bill Gates

okay so neither of you actually care about understanding the hesitancy and where it comes from or how it could be addressed in the future, and this is all just about feeling superior and calling everyone stupid. typical lib shit.

Yeah lifting the mask mandate was god awfully stupid

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fuming posted...

You are completely misunderstanding the hesitancy. Yes, there are some people who just won't take it because they recently had covid, and some who have health concerns, but overwhelmingly our government and institutions failed failed so many people that there is no institutional trust in either the governments actually possibly having altruistic motives (particularly minorities are hesitant to get the vaccine), or the medical community to be anything but parasites trying to make a buck. Does not help that they made a big vaccine spokesperson the non-medical doctor Bill Gates, who is widely recognized as a man with bad intentions who is a fan of eugenics. It is why even "offering free stuff" does not help - many who are hesitant don't need a toy or a prize to be interested, and the government being so desperate to offer free stuff only makes them more suspicious of their motivations. We can't continually be a country that treats its people like shit, has no social safety net, the largest prison population, has a history of experimenting on the poor and minority population, introducing drugs purposefully into those communities, etc etc and expect people to have institutional trust. So yes, many young and healthy people are absolutely not gonna take their chances on trusting them and that problem can only be fixed by our government just fundamentally changing how it treats its citizens to regain trust.

these same people have no problem taking the stimulus money from same government though?

I mean the issue I see with people not taking the vaccine is that they are incredibly inconsistent in their thought process, it's baffling, their actions don't even reflect their words either, they talk about being afraid to put something into their body that could MAYBE have negative long term side effect because they don't trust the government, all that while smoking a cigarette lol

Samurontai posted...

Yeah lifting the mask mandate was god awfully stupid

What a disaster it was to lift it.

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DarkRoast posted...

"I'm not afraid of driving drunk" says man driving drunk

Maybe I'd get it if you were a little nicer about it. I don't like having my arm twisted or bullied into things, ya know. I don't think I was ever directly mean to you, but whatever, its okay, maybe you're just a little high strung about things.

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Kolibri X posted...

Maybe I'd get it if you were a little nicer about it. I don't like having my arm twisted or bullied into things, ya know. I don't think I was ever directly mean to you, but whatever, its okay, maybe you're just a little high strung about things.

Its not a very good comparison, really.

It should be " 'I'm not afraid of driving drunk' says man who has a scientifically miniscule chance of being affected by alcohol to a minor or severe degree"

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fuming posted...

okay so neither of you actually care about understanding the hesitancy and where it comes from or how it could be addressed in the future, and this is all just about feeling superior and calling everyone stupid. typical lib shit.

the hesitancy is coming from 100% conspiracy bullshit. it is not rooted in any evidence or facts.

there is no way to "address" it in the future because people like you have already made up your minds and no amount of additional evidence is going to persuade you. when you have anti-vax morons going around saying things like "i dont believe in science [that contradicts my beliefs]" or "i dont trust peer reviewed scientific journals [that contradict my beliefs]", what else can we possibly do to persuade you with logic and reason?

that's why the government has resorted to things like giving away lottery tickets (which works, lmao).

so to give you a chance, what could be presented to you that would possibly change your mind?

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SK8T3R215 posted...

What a disaster it was to lift it.

With that positivity rate it's going to be quite a while before we get on the other side of this.

I'm vaccinated but still masking up, people are reckless.

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ncsonic posted...

but we ready to lift mask mandates tho

We're at a point where it's just the MAGAs/antivaxxers who are at risk and IDGAF anymore.

And yes, I'm aware that those with compromised immune systems are still at risk but they always will be since we can't achieve herd immunity thanks to those I mentioned.

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