Board 8 > [VGMC] Day 5! Nekozamurai / F.Shrine / Obstacle / R.Coast / J.Dragn / Imp.Worlds

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quantumB
05/15/21 1:11:32 PM
#51:


Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu
Obstacle
Impossible Worlds
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Mr Lasastryke
05/15/21 2:11:30 PM
#52:


Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu
Ryoshima Coast
Impossible Worlds

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neothewoodman
05/15/21 2:12:27 PM
#53:


Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu
Ryoshima Coast
Roar of the Jungle Dragon

first one was very hard because i liked both of the songs. rip face shrine you were cool
obstacle sounds like a phone ringtone. not a bad thing i just think it's funny. i like ryoshima coast better though
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Toxtricity
05/15/21 2:13:12 PM
#54:


oh right i forgot to update the ranking btw uf8 the top 2 didn't change after all (it's very close though and i might move obstacle up later)

when this gets long enough i will stop posting the whole thing every time btw hopefully it doesn't come across as spammy; but it's small enough currently that it doesn't matter as much yet

linkage-alter
Twelfth Chapter ~ In the Sky
--- 3. Obstacle ---
Untamed Heart
Collapsed Expressway
The First Thing
Soaring Through Azure Sadness
Planet Wisp (Act 1)
Out of Tartarus
--- 10. Impossible Worlds ---
Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Labyrinth VI - The Vengeful God in the Dark Ocean Abyss
Discovery
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Soft Collision
Foregone Destruction
It's Dangerous to Go Alone
Heartless Being
The Heritors of Arcadia
Track 7
National Park
The Rain Formerly Known As Purple
--- 23. Ryoshima Coast ---
--- 24. Level 6 - Face Shrine ---
--- 25. Roar of the Jungle Dragon ---
Fuse Man Stage
--- 27. Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu ---
Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke
Nefertiti (Ver.MMXI)
Fury Sparks

a day with lots of low placements for me. it shows how fondly i think of this year's field because i didn't even think of today as "a day with a lot of songs i dont like" or anything. the only 2 songs i come even close to disliking so far are nefertiti and fury sparks and even those are at /worst/ 4/10, meaning i can still think of positive things i see in them, and in the right moods jump to being 6/10 (currently i think of my least favorite song in the field, which hasn't shown up yet, as 6.1 out of 10) so idk. this year is good. though also my taste is broader and dismisses a lot less stuff than my more snobbish taste exactly one year ago did.
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Toxtricity
05/15/21 3:29:01 PM
#55:


proxy vote from r-man who can not use internet properly right now:
R-Man votes:
-Nekozamurai
-Obstacle
-Roar of the Jungle Dragon

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HasteDeux
05/15/21 4:06:22 PM
#56:


Oh wow, I'm shocked that you still have linkage-alter at the top of the list this far in the contest. You rated it an 8.9 in 2013 so it seems like you must have increased its score significantly.

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kaonashi1
05/15/21 4:41:24 PM
#57:


Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu
Obstacle
Impossible Worlds

Nekozamurai is "exciting", but not always in a way I find interesting. Nekomata Master's signature compositional style comes out (especially prominently in sections like 2:03, or imagine 1:26 being played with Byakuya Gentou's flute lead) but its expression in electric guitar seems to blunt its effect a bit, or at least my specific appreciation of it. I don't care for the solo at all! The Naoyuki Sato experience is too distinctive not to shine through regardless, but I don't always enjoy the effort of finding it in this track.

Face Shrine is "boring" but it's got some moody elements to it that I think are pretty nice. Here's a small thing-- the chiptune part slowly crescendos, and then actually almost eliminates its decay at 1:02 (which also seems to implicitly reduce the impact of the attack) and this kind of detail (used a few times throughout the track) is a cool touch I can appreciate. It takes a composition that I'm not very engaged by on the surface and gets more out of it.

While I don't know the actual context of Obstacle, I like to imagine it as area exploration music. Kimihiro Abe's unusual chord choices definitely give me a feeling of wandering a zone, along with the high ostinato. The track is cool and distinctive but my takeaway highlight is always 1:15, which expresses almost a flying feel, and reminds me of Abe's ability to make his chord progressions work in the most unpredictable ways.

Ryoshima Coast is a pleasant adventuring track that takes a lot from the Sun Rises motif. The galloping drums in the second half of the track give it some nice momentum, like you're seeing Amaterasu run along the coast. Aside from the obvious charms of Okami music in general-- the instrumentation and aesthetic, the production-- I wish this track did a little more to pop in my mind. I don't encounter the highs (or lows) that would make me find this really striking, which is something I've felt about a few other Okami tracks.

DM DOKURO really going for that epic prog rock feel (and a very game effort at vocals, to boot). It's a fun track! I think the harmonized vocal sections are engaging and there's still plenty of room to showcase some of the cool progressions he writes.

Impossible Worlds, Todd Baker, warm analog synths reminiscent of Boards of Canada, etc. I've talked about this track before in other settings; I love it a lot for its incredibly organic feel despite it being mostly electronic, its really awesome groove, its relaxed but never static feel as it seamlessly introduces new elements to the track, the way specific sounds grow and explode within it. I'll actually take this opportunity instead to talk a bit about something tangentially related.

I nominated this track for NFUN 1000. The last sixteen tracks I nominated for that project were entirely new discoveries for me, like I was trying to construct a new VGMC nomination set, except with some attempt to tailor it to someone else's tastes. This was the first Todd Baker music I ever listened to, specifically to find things to nominate for that project! I wonder if I would seek out Todd Baker music as fervently if I didn't find it then.

This was far from the only artist or soundtrack I experienced for the first time during the search for nominations for that project. Off-Peak and Cosmo D music in general, Dandara, Caravan Stories, Thousand Memories, This is the Police and Ben Matthews, Kevin Penkin-- all of these were things I found for the first time during my search then, even if they didn't all make it to that nom set. (That Metal Saga nomination, I was thinking-- sounds pretty cool, who's the composer, Yoshimi Kudo, that sounds familiar, oh he's from BASISCAPE, that's cool, I'll remember him for later.) The ones I didn't use, I kept and used later-- Dandara, This is the Police, and Kevin Penkin in future guessing games, Caravan Stories and This is the Police in Tox's nom topic. Four of the things I listed were used in my BOST5 nominations! Again it makes me wonder where I would be with my interest in those artists and soundtracks without this pursuit.

To some extent, the same pattern played out for other users that I nominated for in similar topics-- encountering tenfour music while nominating for Tox, finding the Sdorica soundtrack and exploring more of The Gardens Between while nominating for rwlh, digging through more of the Sword Art Online: Fatal Bullet soundtrack while nominating for cako, searching through some things I'd noted down earlier to find Tron RUN/r and hackmud tracks for GameBop.

This is sort of the ideal outcome, to me, for these ranking topics-- both the nominators and ranker getting new music to check out and hopefully stick with them, through the nomination process and the list itself, in immediate and predictable ways as well as through more unexpected and slower paths. While it's always nice to do well in the rankings, it's the reward of encountering all this stuff in the first place that's paid off the most, and a vital part of what I appreciate about those topics. (ie the REAL ranking topic win was the music friends we made along the way)

(one other thing I forgot to mention is that searching for music to recommend to somebody else can push you to think about and look for music in ways a bit outside of your own comfort zone, which is also something I grew to appreciate during nominations for these topics)
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JONALEON1
05/15/21 5:20:14 PM
#58:


Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu
Obstacle
Impossible Worlds

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Janus5k
05/15/21 5:38:00 PM
#59:


Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu
Obstacle
Roar of the Jungle Dragon

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DeadTaffer
05/15/21 5:39:01 PM
#60:


Level 6 - Face Shrine
Obstacle
Impossible Worlds
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bebr117
05/15/21 5:45:26 PM
#61:


Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu
Ryoshima Coast
Impossible Worlds

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Plasman
05/15/21 6:00:12 PM
#62:


GITADORA - Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu:
Rating: 7.7/10 [Probably approaching 8.0 now]
A Ranking: 31/64

The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening (Switch) - Level 6 - Face Shrine:
Rating: 5.2/10
A Ranking: 62/64

Aside from the very offputting intro that lowered the song by a whole .1 on my first rating, the GITADORA song really hits hard. It's got super strong melodies and i love the instrumentation too. It's kinda no contest against a song I...personally don't really get its appearance aside from the fact this game came out last year. It...doesn't do much for me. Not necessarily anything bad in it either but, eh.

Seraphic Blue - Obstacle:
Rating: 5.9/10
A Ranking: 58/64

Okami - Ryoshima Coast:
Rating: 9.3/10
A Ranking: 2/64

In my initial rating, I had this to say about Obstacle: "The definition of 'kinda cool I guess'. It honestly doesn't feel like it'd take too much to make me really like this but it just never really gets there for me. And some of the dissonant parts are whatever." I mean, can't say my opinion's changed that much. It's kinda nice and chill but doesn't really get me going really. On the other hand, Ryoshima Coast demonstrates Okami's beauty and brilliance perfectly. Don't think I would've really sufficiently appreciated this a few years ago for not being fast, but it just has some super beautiful melodies and just general instrumentation. I almost have this retiring from A2 above Heartless being and...Untamed Heart, it's really nice. I also would've expected this to have retired by now.

Terraria Calamity - Roar of the Jungle Dragon:
Rating: 8.2/10 [Prob like 8.4 now yeah]
A Ranking: 23/64

Monument Valley 2 - Impossible Worlds:
Rating: 8.4/10
A Ranking: 17/64

This one was...so tough, man. The first match of this bracket where I had to keep going back and forth between the two songs. Roar of the Jungle Dragon, like I expected from Calamity, is super powerful and rocking, and for the most part I don't think I'd say the vocals detract from it. It's just a really great song, and I knew it'd be. Still not the other Yharon song but I love it nonetheless. Impossible Worlds was a big surprise for me. Something about the instrumentation and the serene mood it sets really envelops me, and is honestly super pleasant and kinda powerful in its own way. It was a big surprise, and made this one really difficult, and to that fact, I'm gonna be betraying my original rankings for the first time and going with Jungle Dragon. It just hits a bit harder, and I think has more strong melodies I love that Impossible Worlds, while really good in what it does, lacks. To be honest I feel like Purple Rain from earlier is kinda like if IW had that, which is why that's like a 9 lol.

Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu
Ryoshima Coast
Roar of the Jungle Dragon

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Toxtricity
05/15/21 6:36:13 PM
#63:


HasteDeux posted...
Oh wow, I'm shocked that you still have linkage-alter at the top of the list this far in the contest. You rated it an 8.9 in 2013 so it seems like you must have increased its score significantly.

i will say that most of the songs i really love haven't actually showed up yet, but yeah, it's grown on me, and i clearly already liked it.

i think my tastes have changed a lot in ways that impact this ranking being done now rather than even last year.

though there's still room for me to scramble this around a ton, this ranking is definitely not set in stone and i'm expecting stuff to move positions as i listen more
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ZelRaat
05/15/21 6:41:56 PM
#64:


Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu
Obstacle
Impossible Worlds

Impossible Worlds > Obstacle > Ryoshima Coast > Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu > Level 6 - Face Shrine > Roar of the Jungle Dragon
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Disillusion
05/15/21 6:44:54 PM
#65:


Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu
Ryoshima Coast
Impossible Worlds
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skulltrumpets
05/15/21 6:55:32 PM
#66:


Level 6 - Face Shrine
Ryoshima Coast
Impossible Worlds

lord help me why did face shrine's opposition used animal sounds. genuinely, if the first minute of a song was disregarded in this contest, my vote would swing the other way in a heartbeat.

i love obstacle, so this one is kinda hurting me. but ryoshima hits so many points that i enjoy personally.

jungle dragon grew on me, though i still prefer the instrumental portions to the vocals. impossible worlds may be on the simple side, but i find it to be more pleasing to listen to.
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Snajed
05/15/21 7:03:51 PM
#67:


Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu
Ryoshima Coast
Roar of the Jungle Dragon

  • Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu taking a page from Ishibashi and Singa with the animal intro, and then it went hard


  • DM Dokuro good

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sergiocornaga
05/15/21 8:12:01 PM
#68:


Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu
Obstacle
Impossible Worlds
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loweffortmemes
05/15/21 8:33:40 PM
#69:


GITADORA - Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu
Okami - Ryoshima Coast
Terraria Calamity - Roar of the Jungle Dragon

MATCH 1

Not the best Nekomata Master song I've heard. I'd rather Neko Matsuri be the cat-themed rhythm game song representation. But Nekozamurai is still a good song! I won't say no to listening to cat and dog noises, but the guitar melody is definitely what I like hearing the most in this song. It's pretty solid.

Face Shrine isn't a bad song, but I'm not very interested in it. This is probably the kind of song that I'd rate around a 5/10 because I don't feel one way or the other about it.

MATCH 2

Obstacle's a pretty neat song! I did think that some of these chord changes felt PMD-esque, so I'm glad that Tox wrote something similar so that I can see that I'm not totally off base with that comment haha. Mainly the chord change at 0:38 is what gives me that feeling. I like that breakdown from 1:15-1:40 the most.

I've warmed up a little more to Ryoshima Coast compared to VGMC13, I believe, when it was last in. That said though, I still think it's decent, but not great. It has a pleasant sound, but not the best melody. The best parts to me are 0:54-1:08 and 1:29-1:43. Very close match, and I almost picked Obstacle at first when I was filling out my favorites bracket, but I think Ryoshima Coast is more my thing.

MATCH 3

Roar of the Jungle Dragon is pretty naturally up my alley. Good vocal melody and good harmonizing with the background instruments.

I can't get over how Impossible Worlds feels so much like a Tycho song lol. Even the album artwork for the soundtrack looks like something Tycho would make. When I first heard this while filling out my favorites bracket, I actually went to make sure Todd Baker and Tycho weren't the same person haha. Here's a song from him that Impossible Worlds reminds me of, to give a comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziAqB9nb_To
A few people made Boards of Canada comparisons, which I think makes a lot of sense, but I personally think some Boards of Canada songs get too ambient for me, and I'm happy that Impossible Worlds doesn't have that same issue for me. It's nice and relaxing, but it has a strong enough melodic component to hold my interest, which I think is important for a song like this. I wish I could vote for this, but Roar of the Jungle Dragon's more my thing, unfortunately.

Roar of the Jungle Dragon > Impossible Worlds = Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu > Ryoshima Coast > Obstacle > Level 6 - Face Shrine
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UF8
05/15/21 8:36:17 PM
#70:


Toxtricity posted...
oh right i forgot to update the ranking btw uf8 the top 2 didn't change after all (it's very close though and i might move obstacle up later)

when this gets long enough i will stop posting the whole thing every time btw hopefully it doesn't come across as spammy; but it's small enough currently that it doesn't matter as much yet

linkage-alter
Twelfth Chapter ~ In the Sky
--- 3. Obstacle ---
well neat

incidentally, i have obstacle in 8th (7th before counting match 16) though if that other version you shared was the selected one it may well have also landed at around 3rd for me
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cakophon
05/15/21 8:38:20 PM
#71:


Nekozamurai no
Obstacle
Worlds

forgot to post this earlier and then my computer crashed and i lost the working rankings for this day so i'll post them underlined with tomorrow's

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the_botector
05/15/21 9:58:23 PM
#72:


Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu
Ryoshima Coast
Impossible Worlds

last match was tough but I vibe with Impossible more
Face Shrine is pretty cool

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Akkrillic
05/15/21 9:59:05 PM
#73:


Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu
Obstacle
Roar of the Jungle Dragon

Jungle Dragon yet another 10/10

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