Poll of the Day > what draws so many trans people to gaming?

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shadowsword87
04/14/21 7:43:41 PM
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What do you mean, I thought this was a brand new account with no relationship to a hard alcohol from Tennessee.
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IronBornCorps
04/14/21 7:44:49 PM
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Pretty sure this interaction started with me agreeing with Fa and you going REALLY?!
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adjl
04/14/21 7:50:02 PM
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TheNobleWoodApe posted...
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Nobody's saying that bullying means trans people can't participate in sports. Just that it makes it less accessible, much like sports are less accessible for poor kids. It's not impossible to stubbornly tough it out and access those sports in spite of the accessibility issues, just decidedly harder and less pleasant than it would be for somebody without them, meaning kids with those accessibility issues are likely to seek out other pastimes.

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Lokarin
04/14/21 7:52:10 PM
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> what draws so many trans people to gaming?

I would guess that it's because gaming is relatively universal

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GunslingerGunsl
04/14/21 7:59:25 PM
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TheNobleWoodApe posted...
You asked, I gave you an answer. Don't get salty on me because you didn't like the answer. You've known me for a long time, I don't know what you were expecting.
You're kind of rude. Congrats for being so tough though, I guess. Lol
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TheNobleWoodApe
04/14/21 8:05:47 PM
#56:


shadowsword87 posted...
What do you mean, I thought this was a brand new account with no relationship to a hard alcohol from Tennessee.

Meh.

IronBornCorps posted...
Pretty sure this interaction started with me agreeing with Fa and you going REALLY?!

Pretty sure you're backpedaling because you don't like what was said.

adjl posted...
Nobody's saying that bullying means trans people can't participate in sports. Just that it makes it less accessible, much like sports are less accessible for poor kids. It's not impossible to stubbornly tough it out and access those sports in spite of the accessibility issues, just decidedly harder and less pleasant than it would be for somebody without them, meaning kids with those accessibility issues are likely to seek out other pastimes.

And I said my piece as someone that toughed it out against the odds. What's the endgame of coming at me for that?

Shall I what, genuflect to y'all now 20-odd years later instead of the bullies I fought back against back then?

That's a no-sell. Sorry not sorry.

I came out on the other side of those experiences faster, stronger, tougher, and meaner. Am I supposed to regret that? It made me a better person. I'm not the one pissing and moaning 20 years later about how I was denied my rightful place on the dias because I fought for my place there. IBC made his choice under similar circumstances, and I made mine.

What do you really think coming at me sideways is going to accomplish in this particular case?

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Zareth
04/14/21 8:11:22 PM
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TheNobleWoodApe posted...
It made me a better person.


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TheNobleWoodApe
04/14/21 8:11:30 PM
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GunslingerGunsl posted...
You're kind of rude. Congrats for being so tough though, I guess. Lol

And that sort of thinking is exactly what I'm pushing back against here. "You're kind of rude"...oh noes, he was mean, that baddie!

I'll not be shamed for growing a pair and showing I have a fucking spine. I'm not bitching decades later about how mean those bullies were to me because I beat my bullies.

It seems I was part of the last generation that knew how to handle a bully, and it wasn't huggie bookies and coloring books.

Sometimes, an asshole just needs to be punched in the face. It seemed to work a lot better than bottling up frustrations to talk to a therapist about 10-20 years later.

Fuck.

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DirtBasedSoap
04/14/21 8:11:46 PM
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TheNobleWoodApe posted...
Amazing how straight cis kids also deal with bullying in the locker room and adapt and overcome and continue wrestling without a snowflake excuse for bowing out.
holy fuck dude youre such an asshole

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DirtBasedSoap
04/14/21 8:12:07 PM
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TheNobleWoodApe posted...
an asshole just needs to be punched in the face
yeah I agree

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IronBornCorps
04/14/21 8:13:59 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
holy fuck dude youre such an asshole

He wears it as a badge of pride, which is ok because he fought hard for it and he says so.
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DirtBasedSoap
04/14/21 8:17:26 PM
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cant wait for his inevitable wall of text telling me how tough he is and how spineless i am because Im against transphobic bullying.

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Revelation34
04/14/21 8:18:09 PM
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Smarkil posted...
At the risk of sounding offensive, it's probably because there's a link between autism and gender dysphoria, so there's a not insignificant crossover.


Like the link between autism and vaccines?

IronBornCorps posted...
What protected status?

also aren't straight white cis kids shooting up schools for being bullied?

*edit*
lots of them are gamers too, just saying.


Jack Thompson did too.
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TheNobleWoodApe
04/14/21 8:25:18 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
cant wait for his inevitable wall of text telling me how tough he is and how spineless i am because Im against transphobic bullying.

That is quite disingenuous, but you do you. I never said bullying was ok, trans or not.

I am however suggesting that bitching out and letting the bullies win so you can be a snowflake about it is not a winning strategy. I'm not the one complaining about being bullied 20 years after the fact. Because I handled my shit.

If standing up for myself makes me an asshole, you're damned right I'm going to wear that as a badge of honor.

Many of those bullies went on to be some of my best allies down the line. Wearing victimhood like a badge is the shameful route. When you run from coyotes, they see you as prey. 20 years later you're still flinching from a bully that went on to live their life and they haven't given you a second thought since then, meanwhile you're still that same kid afraid of them.

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DirtBasedSoap
04/14/21 8:25:57 PM
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TheNobleWoodApe posted...
I never said bullying was ok

TheNobleWoodApe posted...
bitching out and letting the bullies win so you can be a snowflake
are you trolling or are you this fucking stupid

we dont give a shit about your dumb anecdotes from the 1700s lol

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wwinterj25
04/14/21 8:34:10 PM
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This topic hit the shitter later than expected.

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TheNobleWoodApe
04/14/21 8:34:43 PM
#67:


DirtBasedSoap posted...
are you trolling or are you this fucking stupid

we dont give a shit about your dumb anecdotes from the 1700s lol

I bet it's way easier to lash out at me anonymously online now than it would have been to stand up to the people that bullied you years ago.

Unlike you, I can take it.

See the difference?

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DirtBasedSoap
04/14/21 8:36:05 PM
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I wasnt bullied for being transgender in school.
Disagreeing with your opinion doesnt mean I cant handle it lol

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TheNobleWoodApe
04/14/21 8:37:43 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
I wasnt bullied for being transgender in school.
Disagreeing with your opinion doesnt mean I cant handle it lol

You're the one calling me an asshole for standing up to my own bullies. Just let that sink in for a bit champ.

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IronBornCorps
04/14/21 8:38:41 PM
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Well most of my bullies went on to prosperous careers in the meth and heroin industries, meanwhile I'm a programmer. If I saw one of their strung out asses by my car, I would probably be afraid yeah.

I'm still wondering where I'm bitching and wearing this badge of honor you speak of. I literally shared a limited slice of my HS experience, and you jumped on me like I made the wrong life choice not pursuing HS wrestling with the ol' Mighty Ducks attitude.
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DirtBasedSoap
04/14/21 8:39:19 PM
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Hey guys transphobic bullying is not okay but Im also going to endorse it two sentences later.

your brain is completely fried my dude

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DirtBasedSoap
04/14/21 8:40:42 PM
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IronBornCorps posted...
I literally shared a limited slice of my HS experience, and you jumped on me like I made the wrong life choice not pursuing HS wrestling with the ol' Might Ducks attitude.
seriously. like what? Does he not want you to talk about your real life experiences? fucking unhinged

you didnt even complain about it, you just talked about it because op asked and whiskey loses his mind saying youre spineless lmao

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TheNobleWoodApe
04/14/21 8:41:39 PM
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Seriously DBS, what makes bullying someone for being trans different than bullying a kid for being poor, or fat, or weird? What's so special about the trans angle? Does that make it extra special turbo bullying?

Bullying is bullying.

There's nothing "special" about "trans bullying" that doesn't also apply to garden variety bullies.

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TheNobleWoodApe
04/14/21 8:43:51 PM
#74:


DirtBasedSoap posted...
Hey guys transphobic bullying is not okay but Im also going to endorse it two sentences later.

your brain is completely fried my dude

And where exactly did I endorse bullying of any kind? By all means quote it you dense motherfucker.

The entire issue I've called attention to is growing a fucking spine and standing up for oneself.

It's not a trans thing, it's a weakness thing.

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wwinterj25
04/14/21 8:43:56 PM
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TheNobleWoodApe posted...
Bullying is bullying.

I do actually agree with this.

TheNobleWoodApe posted...
The entire issue I've called attention to is growing a fucking spine and standing up for oneself.

It's not a trans thing, it's a weakness thing.

Welp now you've ruined it. Retaliating isn't always the best cause of action and being bullied doesn't make you weak.

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Revelation34
04/14/21 8:44:54 PM
#76:


wwinterj25 posted...


I do actually agree with this.


But you also think having uniforms means less bullying.
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DirtBasedSoap
04/14/21 8:45:12 PM
#77:


TheNobleWoodApe posted...
letting the bullies win so you can be a snowflake about it
pro-bullying post

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DirtBasedSoap
04/14/21 8:46:33 PM
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I cant quote the rest because I marked them lol

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wwinterj25
04/14/21 8:47:01 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
But you also think having uniforms means less bullying.
... because it does. If everyone wears the same then less people are not going to get bullied for what they are wearing as everyone is wearing the same. Sure some folk won't buy the official uniforms but it still makes one less reason for bulling in most cases. To argue it doesn't is baffling.

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TheNobleWoodApe
04/14/21 8:48:30 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
pro-bullying post

Since you're now IBC's self-proclaimed mouthpiece since she won't speak for herself (part of the problem back then from what I can see), what steps did she take to fix the problem?

Complain to coach, coach said sort it out in your own, and instead if sorting it out on her own, she walked away.

If pointing that out somehow makes me pro-bully, what fucking hoops did you have to jump through to draw that conclusion, like for real?

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PunishedOni
04/14/21 8:49:04 PM
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wow out of 28 posts on the second page i can see 10 lol

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wwinterj25
04/14/21 8:49:34 PM
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Stop blocking people then.

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TheNobleWoodApe
04/14/21 8:49:44 PM
#83:


wwinterj25 posted...
Welp now you've ruined it. Retaliating isn't always the best cause of action and being bullied doesn't make you weak.

Being bullied doesn't make you weak. Letting yourself continue to get bullied does.

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DirtBasedSoap
04/14/21 8:50:04 PM
#84:


TheNobleWoodApe posted...
Complain to coach, coach said sort it out in your own, and instead if sorting it out on her own, she walked away.
what part of not wanting to hang out and play with a bunch of fucking assholes makes her weak?

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DirtBasedSoap
04/14/21 8:50:59 PM
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TheNobleWoodApe posted...
Letting yourself continue to get bullied does.
what part of walking away from the bullies lets you continue to get bullied?

your brain is completely fried

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wwinterj25
04/14/21 8:51:54 PM
#86:


TheNobleWoodApe posted...
Being bullied doesn't make you weak. Letting yourself continue to get bullied does.
Not really. As I said retaliation can lend you in more bother than it's worth. It takes a stronger and smarter mind to show restraint.

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Revelation34
04/14/21 8:53:30 PM
#87:


wwinterj25 posted...

... because it does. If everyone wears the same then less people are not going to get bullied for what they are wearing as everyone is wearing the same. Sure some folk won't buy the official uniforms but it still makes one less reason for bulling in most cases. To argue it doesn't is baffling.


No it just means they'll get bullied for other reasons.
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GunslingerGunsl
04/14/21 8:57:20 PM
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TheNobleWoodApe posted...
And that sort of thinking is exactly what I'm pushing back against here. "You're kind of rude"...oh noes, he was mean, that baddie!

I'll not be shamed for growing a pair and showing I have a fucking spine. I'm not bitching decades later about how mean those bullies were to me because I beat my bullies.

It seems I was part of the last generation that knew how to handle a bully, and it wasn't huggie bookies and coloring books.

Sometimes, an asshole just needs to be punched in the face. It seemed to work a lot better than bottling up frustrations to talk to a therapist about 10-20 years later.

Fuck.
You somehow think being rude is a virtue? Haha. I've never in my life had a problem with being bullied because I've always been assertive, but I've always been considerate of how other people feel. You don't need to speak down to others to feel better about yourself.
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wwinterj25
04/14/21 8:57:26 PM
#89:


Revelation34 posted...
No it just means they'll get bullied for other reasons.
Not necessarily. Still you have actually just acknowledged it's one less reason for people to get bullied. Nice chat.

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JigsawTDC
04/14/21 9:01:41 PM
#90:


TheNobleWoodApe posted...
It seemed to work a lot better than bottling up frustrations to talk to a therapist about 10-20 years later.

u sure bout that?
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IronBornCorps
04/14/21 9:02:02 PM
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I've been here the whole time, no one has to speak for me.

The whole reason I joined the wrestling team was because I was already bullied in school. In gym (which was the same teacher who was absolutely complacent about it), and walking home from school. The coach never wanted me on the team because he knew it would cause issues, and when it did he did nothing about it and encouraged me to quit, so I did.

So you know what I did, I became the REALLY weird kid, to the point people thought I was the type to shoot up the school. It never even crossed my mind, but that's what people started to think, and they left me alone. Probably was easy to play the part because I found this god forsaken place.
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DirtBasedSoap
04/14/21 9:03:10 PM
#92:


JigsawTDC posted...
u sure bout that?
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TheNobleWoodApe
04/14/21 9:05:34 PM
#93:


DirtBasedSoap posted...
what part of walking away from the bullies lets you continue to get bullied?

your brain is completely fried

So let me get this straight. You think someone that was in a sport that demands a certain level of grit lets the bullies take that from them because they lack grit, and they're a hero?

My brain is fried, huh?

I made a decision to not give my bullies my dignity and self worth.

I'm not the asshole here. The bullies are the assholes.

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JigsawTDC
04/14/21 9:06:33 PM
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TheNobleWoodApe posted...
I'm not the asshole here. The bullies are the assholes.

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GunslingerGunsl
04/14/21 9:07:22 PM
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Is this who I think it is btw? Lol. Not entirely sure who I'm talking to.
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IronBornCorps
04/14/21 9:07:26 PM
#96:


now that sounds like backtracking, js
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IronBornCorps
04/14/21 9:07:51 PM
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GunslingerGunsl posted...
Is this who I think it is btw? Lol. Not entirely sure who I'm talking to.

It's Brian (AKA Whiskey)
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wwinterj25
04/14/21 9:07:53 PM
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GunslingerGunsl posted...
Is this who I think it is btw? Lol. Not entirely sure who I'm talking to.
It's Whiskey I believe.

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shadowsword87
04/14/21 9:09:10 PM
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TheNobleWoodApe posted...
I'm not the a****** here. The bullies are the a******s.

You're 100% acting like a bully though.
Being shitty, and expecting other people to be shitty back at you to toughen them up is bullying. You can think it's for a good reason, but you're not acting any better than they are.
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GunslingerGunsl
04/14/21 9:09:28 PM
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Figured.
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