Current Events > U.S. has PAUSED the Johnson and Johnson Covid vaccine over blood clot concerns

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dave_is_slick posted...

6 severe reactions against millions who've gotten the same vaccine. Yes, overreacting to spread fear and paranoia under the guise of "safety" is concern trolling.

is the CDC concern trolling as well by putting a pause to the vaccine that had 6 severe reactions against millions?

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Pfizer and Moderna are in full swing no signs of stopping. Johnson & Johnson is a crappy vaccine that is as good only as 1 shot of Moderna or Pfizer. Long term there's no reason to the Johnson & Johnson vaccine to even exist. It only exists now because it's better than nothing.

Actually, the vaccines may be comparable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3odScka55A

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dave_is_slick posted...

6 severe reactions against millions who've gotten the same vaccine. Yes, overreacting to spread fear and paranoia under the guise of "safety" is concern trolling.

lol what's with this dishonest take?
are you saying that US government itself trying to spread fear and paranoia by pausing the J&J vaccine?

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Ricemills posted...

are you saying that US government itself trying to spread fear and paranoia by pausing the J&J vaccine?

Absolutely, though unintentionally. They've just given anti-vaxxer morons fuel for decades.

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David1988 posted...

is the CDC concern trolling as well by putting a pause to the vaccine that had 6 severe reactions against millions?

Overly cautious. It's concern trolling when you pretend to care so you can use that "care" to spread anti-vaccination paranoia.

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I do not think the CDC is making an error. CDC leadership is going to listen to all of their experts. This is more responsible than just director basing it on her knowledge and her thoughts. Everyone in CDC has a voice. There is time for staff in lower echelons to turn in anything that they know from experience or have picked out from the data. A review is better than one person's call. After the review the director has to call it though.

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CobraGT posted...

I do not think the CDC is making an error. CDC leadership is going to listen to all of their experts. This is more responsible than just director basing it on her knowledge and her thoughts. Everyone in CDC has a voice. There is time for staff in lower echelons to turn in anything that they know from experience or have picked out from the data. A review is better than one person's call. After the review the director has to call it though.

People still die from flu vaccines. We don't pull those.

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dave_is_slick posted...

People still die from flu vaccines. We don't pull those.

The flu shot has an average death rate of 1 every 3 years and the death is always because of anaphylaxis.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

The flu shot has an average death rate of 1 every 3 years and the death is always because of anaphylaxis.

But the vaccine still causes that. So far, again out of millions, we've had one death. Nobody wants to admit this but vaccines are gambles. The odds are heavily in your favor right now. I don't give a fuck if you think I'm heartless, waiting for at least one more death is the right call.

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dave_is_slick posted...

I don't give a fuck if you think I'm heartless, waiting for at least one more death is the right call.

so i take it it's the answer to the question on my first post?

Ricemills posted...

how many fatalities it needs until we took an action?

anyways this just made me glad thst you're not in charge of any health institution.


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Ricemills posted...

so i take it it's the answer to the question on my first post?

I blatantly answered that question before this. You'll see it hasn't changed.

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dave_is_slick posted...

I blatantly answered that question before this. You'll see it hasn't changed.

is that before or after your concern trolling? having a hard time finding it, need to pinpoint it.

and contrary to your opinion, letting the J&J vaccine is the one that fuels the anti-vaxxers.
if it was not paused, they will claim that "the government knows that the vaccines dangerous but they still force it into us. they don't care if lives were lost as long they can inject the 5G microchips!"


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Ricemills posted...

and contrary to your opinion, letting the J&J vaccine is the one that fuels the anti-vaxxers.

"See, I knew they were dangerous! And this is just the start! Who knows what else could happen to you later?"

And this is why I know you're concern trolling. This is well within the range of acceptable side effects. But all they'll see is this publicity stunt, twist facts, and boom. Free ammo because of an overreaction. Had this happened to a bigger number of people this would be concerning but it didn't. Keep fueling the paranoia.

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dave_is_slick posted...

"See, I knew they were dangerous! And this is just the start! Who knows what else could happen to you later?"

And this is why I know you're concern trolling. This is well within the range of acceptable side effects. But all they'll see is this publicity stunt, twist facts, and boom. Free ammo because of an overreaction. Had this happened to a bigger number of people this would be concerning but it didn't. Keep fueling the paranoia.

amazing, i can smell the desperation in this post. dismissing any other ideas that didn't go with his way as "trolling".

think clearly, which one is the fear mongering?
A: "the government is right, we must take a safety precautions."
B: "the government is wrong! they should not take any safety precautions!"

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