Poll of the Day > should a gf or wife have guy friends?

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OhhhJa
04/06/21 6:55:35 PM
#152:


EvilMegas posted...
It's fun to see the contrast in people that have healthy relationships and how they treat their S/o's and the people that think they own or are entitled to all of another humans person life.
If this is aimed at me then you're way off. My relationship has been nothing but fantastic for the 4 years we've been together. But ownership has been no part of it
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EvilMegas
04/06/21 6:57:14 PM
#153:


Sure.

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dedbus
04/06/21 7:00:11 PM
#154:


As long as they keep my water bowl fresh and that throw blanket I like are the foot of the bed to curl up in.
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deoxxys
04/06/21 7:27:50 PM
#155:


HornedLion posted...
Ive been that guy friend before and we didnt go out to buy crochet supplies.

rexcrk posted...
All your wifes / girlfriends male friends want to f*** her
pretty much lmao

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Yellow
04/06/21 7:35:32 PM
#156:


OhhhJa posted...

Guys on gfaqs
Why is holding your wife hostage from having friends like you own her, which makes you a controlling asshole that everyone in her circle of friends hates (in my experience people like this have no friends) totally acceptable?

You can't tell your wife what to do! She is a separate human being, just like you! Not your possession!

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Yellow
04/06/21 7:37:29 PM
#157:


And for the record, I equally hate women who think they can tell their husbands what to do like they own them. No one likes these people.

If my SO told me who I couldn't talk to I'd literally break up with her on the spot.

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deoxxys
04/06/21 7:37:31 PM
#158:


I like how having boundaries and having accountability both ways for you and your partner is somehow controlling. Its just a sign of respect for your partner. The way some people reacting would have you think this equates to post #142.

At the end of the day we all have custom rulesets we live by and usually you will figure those out before you get serious with someone

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Yellow
04/06/21 7:40:14 PM
#159:


Yeah well 90% of the time it's not agreed on by both parties, it's one side being mentally ill.

I know one guy like this and he beats the shit out of his GF.

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JigsawTDC
04/06/21 7:44:03 PM
#160:


I feel like a lot of you are purposely misinterpreting OhJa. Sure, his views on things are generally very questionable, if not outright fucked up (and that period meme was dumb), but in the case of having boundaries in a relationship... That's normal and healthy. As we've said, boundaries are different for each person.

I think in general we can all agree that a controlling partner is not healthy, but you also have to accept that some people DO want these power dynamics and roles in their relationships. I know this woman, who I would personally label as a crazy technofascist but that's mostly aside the point, who is really into the concept of Taken in Hand. If you don't know what that is, it's where one WANTS to be controlled by their partner. If that boundary is consensual and desired by both partners, then wherein lies the problem? I'm not saying that these relationships are the norm, and they fall far outside the bell curve of "normal" relationships, but they exist.

Maybe a completely boundless relationship works for a lot of people, but establishing and respecting boundaries and expectations is very commonplace and not an unhealthy practice.
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OhhhJa
04/06/21 7:57:33 PM
#161:


Yellow posted...
Why is holding your wife hostage from having friends like you own her, which makes you a controlling asshole that everyone in her circle of friends hates (in my experience people like this have no friends) totally acceptable?
This is a strawman I keep seeing. Nowhere have I or anyone still posting in this topic said their wives can't have friends nor anything even close to that
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OhhhJa
04/06/21 7:57:54 PM
#162:


EvilMegas posted...
Sure.
You seem bitter tbh
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OhhhJa
04/06/21 7:58:34 PM
#163:


Yellow posted...
Yeah well 90% of the time it's not agreed on by both parties, it's one side being mentally ill.
Have you been in a long term relationship before?
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grimhilde00
04/06/21 8:34:39 PM
#164:


deoxxys posted...
Its just a sign of respect for your partner.
No, it's a sign of distrust.

deoxxys posted...
The way some people reacting would have you think this equates to post #142.
Because these controlling behaviors are often red flags and they escalate to worse situations. As others have stated, abusers and cheaters project and control. You think it started all at once?

The controlling behavior alone is shitty enough.

If you have a healthy relationship, you're not paranoid about them cheating.

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EvilMegas
04/06/21 8:52:50 PM
#165:


OhhhJa posted...
You seem bitter tbh
Look man, your micro aggressions might work on your gf but not me

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grimhilde00
04/06/21 8:57:47 PM
#166:


EvilMegas posted...
Look man, your micro aggressions might work on your gf but not me

lmao

I mean your post really just sums this entire thing up

EvilMegas posted...
Yeah that's understandable but the other guy is like "we know each others pins because we can't trust each other!" And he's proud of it?

Why live like that? Lol it's crazy to me.


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deoxxys
04/06/21 10:28:03 PM
#167:


grimhilde00 posted...
No, it's a sign of distrust.
Eh not really? I know you got into a bad situtaion but that doesnt make up everyones own experiences. It is really a multi-faceted process. First we get to know each other better and see if we are even compatible.

Then if we move in together, then thats when you start asking "wow what you are going to see a friend of the opposite sex at 9pm at night? Thats a bit sketchy. Secondly of course it should go without saying (but I have learned you can never assume this) but of course I would hold myself to the same standards because I am not a hypocrite. Its not really a matter of "not having friends of the opposite sex" but doing things that cross a line.

I think something a lot of people have failed to mention in this topic is that when you get into a very serious relationship where you are at least living together or engaged, then often, regardless of sex or gender, friends even from your childhood take a backseat. I have seen it happen to many of a few of my friends.

That being said, I cant speak for everyone as I only set my own rules as an individual but I would think most people wouldnt want their SO being with said opposite sex friend were they not all hanging out together at the same time. No matter how morally righteous you perceive yourself as, hormones exist and temptation is a real thing.

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OhhhJa
04/06/21 10:42:04 PM
#168:


grimhilde00 posted...
lmao

I mean your post really just sums this entire thing up
No we simply know each other's pins because we've been together for a long time. Neither one of us has ever snooped through the other's phone but sometimes we use each other's phone when one is on the charger or in the other room.

It would take more effort to hide your pin for that long and would definitely be weird. If your partner asks to use your phone, you refuse them? Or make sure to type your pin in every time before you hand it to them? THATS weird

You guys are reaching extremely hard to try to make me sound bad. I'm sure you really want my relationship to be toxic but it isn't. That seems to upset you for some reason
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OhhhJa
04/06/21 10:43:01 PM
#169:


EvilMegas posted...
Look man, your micro aggressions might work on your gf but not me
Micro aggressions? Just stop man. It's cringy
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HornedLion
04/06/21 10:43:54 PM
#170:


deoxxys posted...
That being said, I cant speak for everyone as I only set my own rules as an individual but I would think most people wouldnt want their SO being with said opposite sex friend were they not all hanging out together at the same time. No matter how morally righteous you perceive yourself as, hormones exist and temptation is a real thing.

Motherfucking this!

OhhhJa posted...
Nowhere have I or anyone still posting in this topic said their wives can't have friends nor anything even close to that

And this. I think its nearly impossible for anyone not to have a friend of the opposite sex. Unless maybe youre an incel or a house wife deeeeeeeep in the country. And even then damn near impossible. Its just that if someone says theyre perfectly fine with their SO going out with a friend of the opposite sex at night, then they either A) dont give a shit if something happens or B) are afraid to voice their boundaries for some fear of societal persecution(which is beta af).

Also:


I was once in a relationship where I swore I wouldnt cheat. And had no intention of doing so. But I naively fell into a pattern of taking a female coworker to lunch. Just her and I alone during the hours of 12-1pm in my car eating Carne Asada Fries in Phoenix. Well, one day she made a move and... well... I didnt exactly run away. Now, I didnt see her as anything more than a friend, and loved my GF at the time, and never wanted that to happen. But once the adrenaline started pumping, horny hormones began to flow, and as they say, One thing lead to another. Now you can right it off as simply, HornedLion is a bad guy. But in reality where I really fucked up was allowing myself to be in that position in the first place. Id like to think Im older and stronger now... but I cannot say what I would do in that position again. So, as always, prevention is the best medicine. And that, boys and girls, is real life. Period.

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GunslingerGunsl
04/06/21 10:46:27 PM
#171:


deoxxys posted...
That being said, I cant speak for everyone as I only set my own rules as an individual but I would think most people wouldnt want their SO being with said opposite sex friend were they not all hanging out together at the same time. No matter how morally righteous you perceive yourself as, hormones exist and temptation is a real thing.
I acknowledge that my own experiences are not the same as everyone's, but I don't believe that temptation is a factor in some platonic relationships. I can spend time with my best female friend without ever feeling temptation. It's not that she's not attractive, it's just that I love her as a friend only. She also has a boyfriend who I'm really cool with now. Her and I actually could grab a drink together and both of our significant others would not give us crap for it at all.
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EvilMegas
04/06/21 10:51:58 PM
#172:


OhhhJa posted...
You guys are reaching extremely hard to try to make me sound bad. I'm sure you really want my relationship to be toxic but it isn't. That seems to upset you for some reason
I think you really want us to care, but no one really does.

Thats like your whole deal.

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OhhhJa
04/06/21 10:55:05 PM
#173:


EvilMegas posted...
I think you really want us to care, but no one really does.

Thats like your whole deal.
For someone who doesn't care, you sure have a lot to say about my life
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EvilMegas
04/06/21 11:01:15 PM
#174:


I mean, you brought your own life into this and tried to use your personal relationship as evidence that you're right to tell another adult who they can and can't talk to, I never once asked about it.

Nor did I once pry lol. You want me to care so bad.

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OhhhJa
04/06/21 11:12:35 PM
#175:


EvilMegas posted...
I mean, you brought your own life into this and tried to use your personal relationship as evidence that you're right to tell another adult who they can and can't talk to, I never once asked about it.

Nor did I once pry lol. You want me to care so bad.
I mean, I was simply responding to my critics here saying that how me and my partner live our lives has worked really well. All I've said this whole time is different boundaries work for different people.

That doesn't mean you should keep speculating on my relationship. That's kind of a weird thing to do. Makes you seem kinda bitter is all. Maybe focus on your own instead of trying to judge other people's my dude
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LinkPizza
04/06/21 11:26:47 PM
#176:


HornedLion posted...
Its just that if someone says theyre perfectly fine with their SO going out with a friend of the opposite sex at night, then they either A) dont give a shit if something happens or B) are afraid to voice their boundaries for some fear of societal persecution(which is beta af).

Or they trust their partners... Which is a thing... Some people just trust the person their dating...

HornedLion posted...
I was once in a relationship where I swore I wouldnt cheat. And had no intention of doing so. But I naively fell into a pattern of taking a female coworker to lunch. Just her and I alone during the hours of 12-1pm in my car eating Carne Asada Fries in Phoenix. Well, one day she made a move and... well... I didnt exactly run away.

And that's a bad thing that you did. Not everyone is going to falter so easily. I've had tons of chances to cheat. And never do. Because I treat others the way I want to be treated... I don't want to be cheated on, and so I don't cheat on others...
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JigsawTDC
04/06/21 11:33:58 PM
#177:


Yeah man, how weak-willed are you to allow a daily burrito eating session to turn into full on cheating with someone you weren't even attracted to? Sorry to break it to you, but most people are stronger than that. You should seek out some therapy. Your problem seems to be a lack of trust and respect. No one is denying the existence of hormones, but we are sentient conscious humans, not rabbits.
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HornedLion
04/06/21 11:44:43 PM
#178:


LinkPizza posted...
And that's a bad thing that you did. Not everyone is going to falter so easily. I've had tons of chances to cheat. And never do. Because I treat others the way I want to be treated... I don't want to be cheated on, and so I don't cheat on others...

I agree, and accept 100% responsibility. I would go a bit further and say I was a piece of shit for letting it all happen. But what I learned is that it wouldve been best if I just didnt put myself in a position that would risk something happening. And I understand the damage that infidelity causes... but I will continue to maintain that prevention is the best medicine.

Now imagine me naively letting my girl go out with Chris Hemsworth alone... and its just a friend thing. But then he makes a move. I cant blame her for not stopping. Its motherfucking Thor. But I can blame myself for being so stupid as to allowing that to go down in the first place. And the pain of being cucked coupled with feelings of guilt are a dangerous combination. And thats why some people actual commit suicide after finding out theyve been cheated on. Remember when Ashley Madison got hacked? Mad people found out their spouses were cheating on them and there were suicides because of it.

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grimhilde00
04/06/21 11:45:06 PM
#179:


LinkPizza posted...


Or they trust their partners... Which is a thing... Some people just trust the person their dating...

^
This.

I'm living with my SO. We've been together 3.5 years now. Never needed to go through his phone.

I've spent the night at male friend's homes. They're my friends. I sleep in the same bed with my girl friends. I'm bi. So, your (not link) rules going to apply to everyone for me? Cause I have slept with men and women. If not, I'm not following your logic.

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GunslingerGunsl
04/06/21 11:46:11 PM
#180:


LinkPizza posted...
Or they trust their partners... Which is a thing... Some people just trust the person their dating...

And that's a bad thing that you did. Not everyone is going to falter so easily. I've had tons of chances to cheat. And never do. Because I treat others the way I want to be treated... I don't want to be cheated on, and so I don't cheat on others...
It's weird how trust seems like such an outlandish idea to some people. People also seem to assume that if they didn't have the self-control to not cheat, that others wouldn't have it either.
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GunslingerGunsl
04/06/21 11:47:36 PM
#181:


HornedLion posted...
I cant blame her for not stopping.
Huh? Why not? lol
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HornedLion
04/06/21 11:47:56 PM
#182:


grimhilde00 posted...
I'm living with my SO. We've been together 3.5 years now. Never needed to go through his phone.

Sorry to break it to you but youre still in the honey moon phase of your current relationship.

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GunslingerGunsl
04/06/21 11:48:46 PM
#183:


3.5 years is the honeymoon phase? News to me. *shrug*
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grimhilde00
04/06/21 11:50:02 PM
#184:


deoxxys posted...
I think something a lot of people have failed to mention in this topic is that when you get into a very serious relationship where you are at least living together or engaged, then often, regardless of sex or gender, friends even from your childhood take a backseat. I have seen it happen to many of a few of my friends.

That being said, I cant speak for everyone as I only set my own rules as an individual but I would think most people wouldnt want their SO being with said opposite sex friend were they not all hanging out together at the same time. No matter how morally righteous you perceive yourself as, hormones exist and temptation is a real thing.
Also these are all bad takes. Keep friendships outside of your relationship strong, codependency is bad. And "there's always temptation" is just you being a horndog projecting that onto others.

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grimhilde00
04/06/21 11:50:54 PM
#185:


HornedLion posted...
Sorry to break it to you but youre still in the honey moon phase of your current relationship.
Lol people get married in less time but ok

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HornedLion
04/06/21 11:52:36 PM
#186:


GunslingerGunsl posted...
3.5 years is the honeymoon phase? News to me. *shrug*

First 5 years, homeboy.

You see!? People ITT are saying a lot but dont know the basics.

A lot of the stuff people spew is great for BF/GF dating crap... but in order for a relationship to go the distance it is going to take WORK, and sometimes that work comes in the form of boundaries.

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grimhilde00
04/06/21 11:54:12 PM
#187:


My previous relationship was 7 years and I definitely don't need that amount of time to spot red flags now. That's why controlling guys go after the inexperienced.

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JigsawTDC
04/06/21 11:54:52 PM
#188:


HornedLion posted...
First 5 years, homeboy.

You see!? People ITT are saying a lot but dont know the basics.

Thankfully you're here to educate all us ignorants though! We're super grateful and stuff!
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HornedLion
04/06/21 11:55:49 PM
#189:


grimhilde00 posted...
My previous relationship was 7 years and I definitely don't need that amount of time to spot red flags now. That's why controlling guys go after the inexperienced.

May I ask you a personal question?

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GunslingerGunsl
04/06/21 11:56:48 PM
#190:


HornedLion posted...
First 5 years, homeboy.

You see!? People ITT are saying a lot but dont know the basics.

A lot of the stuff people spew is great for BF/GF dating crap... but in order for a relationship to go the distance it is going to take WORK, and sometimes that work comes in the form of boundaries.
Source? Seems like you're just making stuff up. You could google the honeymoon stage and it wouldn't say 5 years. By the way, the length of the "honeymoon stage" is such an arbitrary number regardless that it's not really useful in supporting what you're trying to say.
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grimhilde00
04/06/21 11:59:05 PM
#191:


GunslingerGunsl posted...
Source? Seems like you're just making stuff up. You could google the honeymoon stage and it wouldn't say 5 years. By the way, the length of the "honeymoon stage" is such an arbitrary number regardless that it's not really useful in supporting what you're trying to say.

This guy has been saying incel (edit: or misogynistic you don't need to be an incel for that) logic throughout this entire thread. He's a troll right?

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GunslingerGunsl
04/07/21 12:01:15 AM
#192:


grimhilde00 posted...
This guy has been saying incel (edit: or misogynistic you don't need to be an incel for that) logic throughout this entire thread. He's a troll right?
Pretty sure. lol. Seems to be the center of a lot of PotD drama a lot of the time.
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LinkPizza
04/07/21 12:02:13 AM
#193:


HornedLion posted...
I agree, and accept 100% responsibility. I would go a bit further and say I was a piece of shit for letting it all happen. But what I learned is that it wouldve been best if I just didnt put myself in a position that would risk something happening. And I understand the damage that infidelity causes... but I will continue to maintain that prevention is the best medicine.

Maybe if you can't control yourself. Prevention is good to not put yourself in certain situations. But eating lunch with someone isn't exactly a bad situation. If you can't eat lunch with someone without fucking them, that's a you problem more than anything...

HornedLion posted...
Now imagine me naively letting my girl go out with Chris Hemsworth alone... and its just a friend thing. But then he makes a move. I cant blame her for not stopping. Its motherfucking Thor. But I can blame myself for being so stupid as to allowing that to go down in the first place. And the pain of being cucked coupled with feelings of guilt are a dangerous combination. And thats why some people actual commit suicide after finding out theyve been cheated on. Remember when Ashley Madison got hacked? Mad people found out their spouses were cheating on them and there were suicides because of it.

I'd, for one, not cheat with him. He's hot, sure. But that doesn't mean anyone should cheat on their SO with him. Again, I'm a big believer in the "golden rule", and I do believe in Karma to an extent. But it's based on a person...

HornedLion posted...
First 5 years, homeboy.

Google (All Hail Google) says about 6 months to 2 years is the honeymoon phase. It can last longer. But 2.5 times longer isn't likely...
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grimhilde00
04/07/21 12:03:42 AM
#194:


Pandemic has definitely killed any honeymoon phase lmao

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HornedLion
04/07/21 12:09:09 AM
#195:


LinkPizza posted...
Maybe if you can't control yourself. Prevention is good to not put yourself in certain situations. But eating lunch with someone isn't exactly a bad situation. If you can't eat lunch with someone without fucking them, that's a you problem more than anything...

She grabbed my hand off the shift and onto her plump kitty. She was really attractive but I honestly had no want to do it. But once I felt that tenderness... I was like... OH! I was like fucking Bruce from Finding Nemo! I had no intention of eating fish. I was like this chick is a friend; not food! But then once she grabbed my hand and put it there it was like...




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Metalsonic66
04/07/21 12:11:40 AM
#196:


"It felt like a bag of sand"

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JigsawTDC
04/07/21 12:12:25 AM
#197:


So basically what I've gotten from this conversation is that HornyLion has a bit of a self-control issue and is projecting that onto society and thinks we will all become cum-thirsty sharks the moment our genitals are touched. And he wants Thor to fuck his girlfriend.
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GunslingerGunsl
04/07/21 12:14:24 AM
#198:


JigsawTDC posted...
So basically what I've gotten from this conversation is that HornyLion has a bit of a self-control issue and is projecting that onto society and thinks we will all become cum-thirsty sharks the moment our genitals are touched. And he wants Thor to fuck his girlfriend.
What if I want Thor to fuck my girlfriend? Is that okay? Asking for a friend.
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grimhilde00
04/07/21 12:16:06 AM
#199:


GunslingerGunsl posted...
What if I want Thor to fuck my girlfriend? Is that okay? Asking for a friend.
That's something you need to discuss with your gf

And Thor

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JigsawTDC
04/07/21 12:25:36 AM
#200:


GunslingerGunsl posted...
What if I want Thor to fuck my girlfriend? Is that okay? Asking for a friend.

There's nothing inherently wrong with whatever fetishes you have. It's just a matter of how you go about pursuing them (or not pursuing them if it's a dangerous one). Everything I've read and all anecdotal evidence I have says consensual non-monogamous/polyamorous relationships can be just healthy as monogamous ones. Just like any relationship, it's a matter of trust and respect. Just with more people involved!
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LinkPizza
04/07/21 12:50:28 AM
#201:


HornedLion posted...
She grabbed my hand off the shift and onto her plump kitty. She was really attractive but I honestly had no want to do it. But once I felt that tenderness... I was like... OH! I was like fucking Bruce from Finding Nemo! I had no intention of eating fish. I was like this chick is a friend; not food! But then once she grabbed my hand and put it there it was like...


So thats self-control issue. Not everybody isnt going to falter. Many might not have even let her move their hand...
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