Poll of the Day > Married Blonde pays a MAN $80 an HOUR cause he's a CUDDLER!! Is she a MILF??

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Full Throttle
03/31/21 10:54:37 PM
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Is Saskia Hot?


Saskia Larsen from New York who is MARRIED says she pays a MAN $80 an HOUR for his PROFESSIONAL CUDDLING SERVICES!!

She says her husband "doesn't mind" she meets up with another man just to spoon and is 99% sure he doesn't get jealous!!

The actress uses a service called "Cuddlist" and hires people while she is away from home to pursue acting

She said "Many people would think that it's odd that i access cuddling services because i'm married. But screw it, i don't really care what anybody else thinks. I love affection and i love how it makes my body feel. I'm 99% sure he doesn't get jealous of cuddling because i check in with him and talk about it. He's more protective of me than jealous so as long as i'm safe it's good. I would recommend every single person try cuddling because it makes you feel human. I'm not breaking an agreement with my husband, i'm not breaking the law, i'm just having something that's really yummy and great"

Her husband, Arthur says "Saskia and i have a monogamous relationship but i don't feel like cuddling violates the integrity of that. Saskia likes a lot of contact and she's very comfortable around other people and she's very affectionate. When we're together, we cuddle all the time so i can understand why se needs human contact".

The man himself says the business has "never done better" and gets 200 requests a week despite covid and says he has all kinds of clients of all ages from women, older clients and even MEN who just want a personal touch.

Is Saskia a MILF?

Saskia and the cuddler -

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Saskia and her husband -

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BlackScythe0
03/31/21 11:07:54 PM
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The same guy?
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Muscles
04/01/21 1:50:14 AM
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Sounds like a sweet gig, I would definitely do that for $80 /hour.

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TheNobleWoodApe
04/01/21 1:53:33 AM
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Definitely a milf, but I'm sure I can find one for way less than $80/hr. More like a couple of tequila sunrises on a Thursday night close to closing time for way more than "cuddles".

That's just math.

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deoxxys
04/01/21 2:26:55 AM
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lol arthur is a cuck

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streamofthesky
04/01/21 2:37:44 AM
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deoxxys posted...
lol arthur is a cuck
I really hope he's cheating on her, and thus lets her do this b/c it's "fair". That'd actually be less bad than what it's being presented as here.
Cripes...
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helIy
04/01/21 6:19:01 AM
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is that not just the same dude

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MeteoricBurst
04/01/21 6:53:03 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
I really hope he's cheating on her, and thus lets her do this b/c it's "fair". That'd actually be less bad than what it's being presented as here.
Cripes...

I know this is not sarcasm, which it should be. That makes it one of the dumbest things I've seen on this site. An impressive achievement, congratulations. A toxic cheating relationship is better than a harmless gig? OK. Professional cuddlers are a big thing for years in Asian countries like Japan and Korea, where a lot of people especially men are lonely. It's not a sex thing and considered an important service, and there are male cuddlers also. BBC World Service did a whole documentary on it a few years back, this is nothing new. I guess in the decadent west where its only sex sex sex, this kind of service makes no sense to you ridiculous people. But sure husbands should cheat then try to be fair to poor wifey when they get caught out lol.

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streamofthesky
04/01/21 7:56:02 AM
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You actually defended it as harmless, lol
That makes it one of the dumbest things I've seen on this site. An impressive achievement, congratulations.

And I'm not "blaming" the guy selling cuddling, just the wife.
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dedbus
04/01/21 8:14:09 AM
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This an episode of undercover boss? The guys like I'm gonna test my wife. I'll put on these glasses she'll never know it's me. Plus the 80 per hour keeps her from buying useless bags and shit. Is this the most genius guy in human history?
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MeteoricBurst
04/01/21 8:24:20 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
You actually defended it as harmless, lol
That makes it one of the dumbest things I've seen on this site. An impressive achievement, congratulations.

And I'm not "blaming" the guy selling cuddling, just the wife.

But it is harmless. You still haven't explained how it isn't. It's about companionship not sex. If the cuddling customers wanted sex they would, you know, hire an escort or prostitute. There's rules in place for this kind of thing. You'll always have a few assholes who try to abuse the system but that doesn't subtract from the main point.

Not sure what you find so funny either since it's you spouting outlandish nonsense that sounds like a joke. Guys that cheat on their wives should then be "charitable" to the victim by allowing them to merely cuddle with other men. I hope no woman ever takes you for a serious partner. Ever.

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streamofthesky
04/01/21 8:33:58 AM
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MeteoricBurst posted...
Not sure what you find so funny either since it's you spouting outlandish nonsense that sounds like a joke. Guys that cheat on their wives should then be "charitable" to the victim by allowing them to merely cuddle with other men. I hope no woman ever takes you for a serious partner. Ever.
"Merely"? What is the husband doing in this hypothetical scenario by comparison, that's so much worse, then?

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HornedLion
04/01/21 8:38:14 AM
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Western women have completely gone rogue.

There was a time I use to judge my older friends and their Asian GF obsessions. Think Im starting to understand them now.


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MeteoricBurst
04/01/21 8:44:14 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
"Merely"? What is the husband doing in this hypothetical scenario by comparison, that's so much worse, then?

Actually having sex with other people you clown. And in your scenario doing it behind her back too on top of it all before he decides to be "fair" by letting her get some scraps. You're sick in the head.

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MeteoricBurst
04/01/21 8:45:22 AM
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HornedLion posted...
Western women have completely gone rogue.

There was a time I use to judge my older friends and their Asian GF obsessions. Think Im starting to understand them now.

I just explained earlier that Asian women do this cuddling service more than anyone else. -_-

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streamofthesky
04/01/21 8:54:02 AM
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MeteoricBurst posted...
Actually having sex with other people you clown. And in your scenario doing it behind her back too on top of it all before he decides to be "fair" by letting her get some scraps. You're sick in the head.
...When the fuck did I say he should have sex with other people?

"I guess in the decadent west where its only sex sex sex," it was inevitable you would infer that. Or I guess that's the threshold you have for "cheating" in a marriage/relationship.

Maybe the husband likes to go clubbing and bump and grind w/ random women. It's just how he expresses himself, you can't judge him for it!

Maybe w/ his wife away, just as she misses his cuddles, he misses intimacy, too. So he hires an escort for the "girlfriend experience". Lots of embracing and heavy kissing and caressing, but don't worry -- no sex. I know you'd be just fine w/ such an arrangement as well, given how progressive you present yourself online.
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MeteoricBurst
04/01/21 8:55:39 AM
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You literally said you hope the husband is at least cheating. Which is ridiculous. What you don't get is you sound far crazier than any of the people this topic involves.

Edit: I don't know what you don't get about this being a time based service for lonely people. Instead of giving your body parts you are giving time. Him bumping and grinding at clubs is sexual. Cuddling does not have to be sexual even though it can be. It's obvious the married couple are enjoying the benefits of this service so not sure why some random would be so triggered he makes the leap from that to actively hoping the husband is cheating on the wife. That's beyond petty.


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HornedLion
04/01/21 9:02:36 AM
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MeteoricBurst posted...
I just explained earlier that Asian women do this cuddling service more than anyone else. -_-

Oh youre right. But Im just saying, Im understanding their[my friends] rebellion.

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MeteoricBurst
04/01/21 9:07:30 AM
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I wonder what this @streamofthesky guy thinks of couples that actually are involved in sex work and have no issues. Thats not my jam personally but it's not gonna upset me. And this is far tamer in comparison. I find the overreaction baffling even if you're not into this setup.

streamofthesky posted...
Maybe w/ his wife away, just as she misses his cuddles, he misses intimacy, too. So he hires an escort for the "girlfriend experience". Lots of embracing and heavy kissing and caressing, but don't worry -- no sex. I know you'd be just fine w/ such an arrangement as well, given how progressive you present yourself online.

You also ignored everything I said just to spin your own propaganda. Cuddlers have nothing to do with escorts (though some do both) and cuddling doesn't involve anything you mentioned there. That's why I told you earlier if these people wanted more they would hire ACTUAL escorts or prostitutes. Do you get it yet? ***A lot of women hire male cuddlers too. But what's coming across most here is you being triggered that a woman doing it and husbando "letting" her.

***Well that's exactly what's going on here I totally misread the title lol. That doesn't change my argument over couples that do this stuff. In fact the outrage scenario I find even more baffling. Since it's not her being the cuddler and going with different men, it's one dude since he's the cuddler instead. If you were to suggest something to make it "fair" it would be that husband go try his hand at cuddling too and get some cash. Instead of petty cheating only an insecure crazy person would do.

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blu
04/01/21 11:36:04 AM
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Maybe I should set up a weekend cuddling service.
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HornedLion
04/01/21 12:33:14 PM
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blu posted...
Maybe I should set up a weekend cuddling service.

You said you were 66, right? Market yourself as the big teddy bear.

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TheOkHornedRat
04/01/21 12:44:17 PM
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MeteoricBurst posted...
You literally said you hope the husband is at least cheating. Which is ridiculous. What you don't get is you sound far crazier than any of the people this topic involves.

Edit: I don't know what you don't get about this being a time based service for lonely people. Instead of giving your body parts you are giving time. Him bumping and grinding at clubs is sexual. Cuddling does not have to be sexual even though it can be. It's obvious the married couple are enjoying the benefits of this service so not sure why some random would be so triggered he makes the leap from that to actively hoping the husband is cheating on the wife. That's beyond petty.

this man is clearly from the decadent west since he thinks sex is the only way someone can cheat

seriously, its just sex sex sex with this guy. get your brain out of the gutter you filthy westerner.

now excuse me while i go cuddle up with my body pillow UwU

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DragonClaw01
04/01/21 12:49:18 PM
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MeteoricBurst posted...
But it is harmless. You still haven't explained how it isn't. It's about companionship not sex.
Well, Barnum did say there was a sucker born every minute


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MeteoricBurst
04/01/21 1:05:38 PM
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DragonClaw01 posted...
Well, Barnum did say there was a sucker born every minute

Lets be very clear here: I can see why some people would have a problem with this. There's that and then there's a huge leap in logic to say you hope a husband cheats on wifey because she cuddles. Thats just wild.

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deoxxys
04/01/21 3:15:22 PM
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I dont see why any average warm-blooded male would be okay with this.
I could literally ask this to every guy I have ever met no one would think this was alright.

MeteoricBurst posted...
huge leap in logic to say you hope a husband cheats on wifey because she cuddles.
Well yes and no. He could see it as payback for "cuddling" which if we are being honest cuddling leads to sex quite often, your mouths and pelvises are perfectly lined up for foreplay, nonetheless, its a very intimate activity.

Alternatively, it could be that the husband cheated first and that the wife knows and this is her payback.

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zebatov
04/01/21 3:16:12 PM
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Need to see the boot.

blu posted...
Maybe I should set up a weekend cuddling service.

Even with the $12,000 raise?

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TheNobleWoodApe
04/01/21 3:17:35 PM
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deoxxys posted...
I dont see why any average warm-blooded male would be okay with this.
I could literally ask this to every guy I have ever met no one would think this was alright.

Just going out on a limb and guessing you've never talked to a sex worker. Be it an actual escort/prostitute, or a stripper, let alone any guy who has been in a relationship with one.

I have. Ask me anything.

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deoxxys
04/01/21 3:23:59 PM
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TheNobleWoodApe posted...
Just going out on a limb and guessing you've never talked to a sex worker. Be it an actual escort/prostitute, or a stripper, let alone any guy who has been in a relationship with one.

I have. Ask me anything.
I mean I would avoid ever having interest in someone who is a sex worker because its a huge turnoff to have your partner showing off their body and giving it to everyone.

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GunslingerGunsl
04/01/21 3:34:32 PM
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If they are comfortable with it and everyone is happy then good for them I guess. Personally, I wouldn't be okay with that but I'm also very unlikely to ever be in a situation where my girlfriend ever felt like she needed more affection. I'm a very affectionate and cuddly person. Lol

streamofthesky posted...
I really hope he's cheating on her, and thus lets her do this b/c it's "fair". That'd actually be less bad than what it's being presented as here.
Cripes...
This is kinda dumb and mean-spirited. Not everyone feels and thinks the same way. Not sure why you'd want to wish something like that on people you don't even know who might actually be much happier than you're imagining in your head.
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GunslingerGunsl
04/01/21 3:38:52 PM
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deoxxys posted...
I dont see why any average warm-blooded male would be okay with this.
I could literally ask this to every guy I have ever met no one would think this was alright.
I definitely don't think the "average male" would be okay with this, but polyamorous relationships and swingers exist so it's not too much of a stretch for me to imagine that there are some guys who are okay with their wives cuddling someone else too.
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JigsawTDC
04/01/21 3:47:54 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
You actually defended it as harmless, lol
That makes it one of the dumbest things I've seen on this site. An impressive achievement, congratulations.

Nah dude, you look like the dumb one here. These people have agreed upon boundaries in their relationship that no one is breaching and everyone is comfortable with, but you're projecting your own insecurities onto it.
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TheNobleWoodApe
04/01/21 3:55:55 PM
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deoxxys posted...
I mean I would avoid ever having interest in someone who is a sex worker because its a huge turnoff to have your partner showing off their body and giving it to everyone.

I mean I get where you're coming from, and from a very baseline, normal place I can't say that's an unusual take.

But life is complicated, and sometimes an ugly situation can change things drastically.

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TheOkHornedRat
04/01/21 5:11:10 PM
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JigsawTDC posted...
Nah dude, you look like the dumb one here. These people have agreed upon boundaries in their relationship that no one is breaching and everyone is comfortable with, but you're projecting your own insecurities onto it.

yo it doesnt matter how OK with it the husband is.

His cucklord status is not dependent on his level of OKness with the situation.

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JigsawTDC
04/01/21 5:15:48 PM
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TheOkHornedRat posted...
yo it doesnt matter how OK with it the husband is.

His cucklord status is not dependent on his level of OKness with the situation.

It doesn't matter in regards to your own insecurities, sure. All you're doing here is revealing more about yourself than the relationship you're judging.
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TheOkHornedRat
04/01/21 6:34:01 PM
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JigsawTDC posted...
It doesn't matter in regards to your own insecurities, sure. All you're doing here is revealing more about yourself than the relationship you're judging.

He let's other dudes handle his wife. Securities? Insecurities? I dont really care. He is a textbook cucklord. Is this personal for you? Are you a cucklord? I didnt call you one, but your insecurities made you feel the need to comment anyways I guess.

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JigsawTDC
04/01/21 8:26:42 PM
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TheOkHornedRat posted...
He let's other dudes handle his wife.

This doesn't seem to be a point of contention in their relationship, so I'm unsure why it matters to you?

TheOkHornedRat posted...
Securities? Insecurities? I dont really care. He is a textbook cucklord. Is this personal for you? Are you a cucklord? I didnt call you one, but your insecurities made you feel the need to comment anyways I guess.

I'm not taking any of this conversation personally. I just think it's funny watching people so clearly project their insecurities, complaining about what others do in their personal relationships when it doesn't actually affect you. It's like when overly concerned Christians try to demean gay and trans people. If anything, this conversation reads as you taking things personally because you're bothered by a man you don't know being, in your words, a "cucklord". Why do you feel the need to demean a consensual relationship between adults?
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streamofthesky
04/01/21 8:48:40 PM
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@MeteoricBurst you seem to keep getting hung up on defending the service itself or pointing out how popular it is in Asia.
I have no problem w/ cuddling services existing, if single people want to hire them, go ahead.
I also have no problem w/ prostitution services existing, if single people want to hire them, go ahead.

I bolded and underlined the problem with this topic's scenario for you, so you can hopefully stop pretending to be dense about it.

MeteoricBurst posted...
You literally said you hope the husband is at least cheating. Which is ridiculous. What you don't get is you sound far crazier than any of the people this topic involves.
The wife is already cheating. At least if the husband is as well, it's a straight up open relationship. The way presented, he's just pathetic.

MeteoricBurst posted...
I wonder what this streamofthesky guy thinks of couples that actually are involved in sex work and have no issues. Thats not my jam personally but it's not gonna upset me. And this is far tamer in comparison. I find the overreaction baffling even if you're not into this setup.
I think if one partner is sleeping w/ other people it defeats the entire purpose of being in a committed relationship, and the people who are "fine" with it are mostly brainwashed into thinking it's "ok" and "normal". I pity them, and inevitably one day they wake up and escape the awful situation.

You also ignored everything I said just to spin your own propaganda. Cuddlers have nothing to do with escorts (though some do both) and cuddling doesn't involve anything you mentioned there. That's why I told you earlier if these people wanted more they would hire ACTUAL escorts or prostitutes. Do you get it yet? ***A lot of women hire male cuddlers too. But what's coming across most here is you being triggered that a woman doing it and husbando "letting" her.
I love that you think it's triggering that the husband would have to "let" her do this.
Of course he does! That's not "controlling", that's marriage. If he wanted to climb into bed and cuddle tightly w/ other women, you bet your ass he'd be expected to have her approval, too!
Ideally, when she asked, he should've just filed for divorce. Someone who's married and respects their partner wouldn't ever even dare to ask for something so ridiculous. The marriage is basically already destroyed. Even if he said no, he can't monitor her when she's away, and it's entirely possible she already did it and was seeking retroactive approval. She could also easily be trickle truthing to cover for doing far more, because again he has no way to know. To even broach the subject injects so much doubt and suspicion that the marriage should crumble.
But...some poor saps are afraid to get divorced. Often b/c they get destroyed financially in family court, sometimes b/c they have kids and feel they need to stay together for their sake. So in that case, the 2nd best (but still far worse than divorce) option is to just accept your marriage is broken / a sham and open itself up on your end, too.
Because again, it really doesn't matter whether he approves of her actions or not (and her "99% sure" assessment doesn't inspire confidence he was enthusiastic about this vs. felt forced into it), the fact she even thought it was ok to bring it up at all means the marriage is already doomed and she's gonna cheat no matter what she says.
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MeteoricBurst
04/02/21 8:05:13 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
@MeteoricBurst you seem to keep getting hung up on defending the service itself or pointing out how popular it is in Asia.
I have no problem w/ cuddling services existing, if single people want to hire them, go ahead.
I also have no problem w/ prostitution services existing, if single people want to hire them, go ahead.

I bolded and underlined the problem with this topic's scenario for you, so you can hopefully stop pretending to be dense about it.

Listen up @streamofthesky the only person being dense, and quite frankly unhinged, is you. Which is why you were called out on it, and not just by me. You weren't clear on shit until this very post. And even then you have a major problem, I'll explain at the end.

The wife is already cheating. At least if the husband is as well, it's a straight up open relationship. The way presented, he's just pathetic.

Him being pathetic is your opinion not fact. And neither involved seem to agree with you either. The problem with your comparison is you wanting the husband fucking other people, which is just weird. Then equating that with her cuddling some guy. It's even funnier because originally I mistook she was the cuddler giving her services to multiple men, which I understand would bother some people. The actual scenario is even tamer and makes your argument that much more absurd. I also explained that if you wanted an equal scenario here it would be the husband then going to do his own cuddling. That's fuckin obvious but you seem really vengeful and bitter for some reason. Your comparison is totally illogical and overblown. Like taking a sledgehammer to crack a peanut.

Even if you consider cuddling cheating (which again the parties themselves don't and me neither) then its still not on the same level as your scenario regardless. Him fucking other women is NOT an equal reaction. It's been already explained the difference to you (twice!) between cuddling service and escorts/prostitutes. Yet you have the gall to accuse ME of being dense. Oh my.

I think if one partner is sleeping w/ other people it defeats the entire purpose of being in a committed relationship, and the people who are "fine" with it are mostly brainwashed into thinking it's "ok" and "normal". I pity them, and inevitably one day they wake up and escape the awful situation.

We agree on this part. Its actually an opinion I expressed strongly many times on the Sex board before whenever these conversations came up. The big difference between you and me is that, despite my similar belief, I don't ultimately care what other people do in their relationships as long as it doesn't involve me. Thats your whole problem. All the rest of your wall of text is nothing but that.

And by definition its pretty normal since a lot of people do it. Open couples are not new and exciting. I guess the reasoning there is that its better to be sleeping with other people together or having your partner know, than the more common case of one or the other stepping out behind your back. But as I pointed out in other arguments that's no guarantee. It works for some and not for others, simple as that. I've actually been invited a few times myself to be the 3rd person in a couples scenario and refused. Don't want to get caught up in that stuff.

The long and short of it is that you really need to get over yourself.

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streamofthesky
04/04/21 1:03:52 PM
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MeteoricBurst posted...
You weren't clear on shit until this very post.
So you could rhetorically hang yourself on your own words. Thought that was obvious by now.

The problem with your comparison is you wanting the husband fucking other people, which is just weird. Then equating that with her cuddling some guy.

Even if you consider cuddling cheating (which again the parties themselves don't and me neither) then its still not on the same level as your scenario regardless. Him fucking other women is NOT an equal reaction. It's been already explained the difference to you (twice!) between cuddling service and escorts/prostitutes. Yet you have the gall to accuse ME of being dense. Oh my.
Because you are fucking dense. Once again, I never said he should "fuck other women". That's something you assumed, and were called out on already.
I know you have zero actual points to argue and thus have to resort to making blatantly fallacious claims about what I said and use ad hominem attacks on me in nearly every post you make (while having the gall to call me unhinged, lol). But it would just be swell if you'd stop being so disingenuous.
Although, the #MeteoricMeltdown has been pretty entertaining to read, so I guess it was worth not reporting all the prior posts of yours for insulting other users, to get this payoff.

The big difference between you and me is that, despite my similar belief, I don't ultimately care what other people do in their relationships as long as it doesn't involve me. Thats your whole problem. All the rest of your wall of text is nothing but that.

Your unhinged posts on here say otherwise. If you really didn't care what they were doing, my post about their relationship shouldn't have resulted in the epic tirades from you that it did.
I'm not the one talking out of both sides of my mouth, claiming not to care and then demonstrating the opposite. Again, for the husband's sake, I really hope if he's not divorcing her (best option, by far) then at least the relationship is equally open. I have empathy and feel bad for him, b/c it sounds like he's been duped by people like you into going against his gut instincts and all logic and tried to convince himself that his wife climbing into bed w/ other men is ok.
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MeteoricBurst
04/04/21 1:36:44 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
So you could rhetorically hang yourself on your own words. Thought that was obvious by now.

Nah. Stop trying to play the smart guy, you can't back away from this:

streamofthesky posted...
I really hope he's cheating on her, and thus lets her do this b/c it's "fair". That'd actually be less bad than what it's being presented as here.
Cripes...

You say this clearly meaning him banging other women. Then go on to keep equating cuddling with escorts and prostitutes, despite explanations to the contrary. So obviously you're the one with sex on your mind. The fact you delude yourself into thinking he's been "duped" drives home my points of you being unhinged and inserting yourself into other people's relationship even more. Other people in here didn't agree with this situation either, but they didn't go off on weird crazy tangents did they. I have nothing more to say because you already dug your heels in and doubling down on being a fool.

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streamofthesky
04/04/21 2:02:02 PM
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MeteoricBurst posted...
You say this clearly meaning him banging other women.
Clear to you, apparently.
To sane people, there are many actions that are cheating that are less extreme than having sex. Like cuddling in bed w/ someone else.

Then go on to keep equating cuddling with escorts and prostitutes, despite explanations to the contrary.
You're the one doing that. Closest I came to that was hiring one to act like a girlfriend as an example. You're the one that asked my thoughts on relationships where one person is outright prostituting.

So obviously you're the one with sex on your mind.
The irony...

The fact you delude yourself into thinking he's been "duped" drives home my points of you being unhinged and inserting yourself into other people's relationship even more. Other people in here didn't agree with this situation either, but they didn't go off on weird crazy tangents did they.
Other than the posters saying he's a cuck and the one lamenting the state of Western women... Sure!

I have nothing more to say because you already dug your heels in and doubling down on being a fool.
The irony...
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