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IfGodCouldDie
02/19/21 5:10:23 PM
#51:


Medussa posted...
we've had, what, one actual resurrection in the MCU so far (and it happened in this series), and three or four more close calls (one of which is also happened in this series, and a second one is from the most recent movie)? not exactly seeing a problem here. in fact, i'd say it's a welcome change from the comics.
We also don't know for sure that the one we got is even legit.

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Caroniver
02/19/21 5:31:30 PM
#52:


The_Creep_2020 posted...
Agnes is Agatha Harkness, which surprised no-one, but is Ralph going to turn out to be someone? Agatha mentions him, but hes been conspicuous in his absence.
Ralph could be the fake Quicksilver.

ZevLoveDOOM posted...
so does Monica actually have superpowers as well? it wasnt quite clear to me...
Did you see the post-credits sequence?

RchHomieQuanChi posted...
We already know this ties directly into Multiverse of Madness so surely the multiverse must be playing some effect in this show.
Not necessarily. It's possible that Mephisto could be the villain in both, and that's the tie.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Which one was it?
Far From Home. Mysterio said he was from Earth 626, which is the main comic universe.


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MagnusX
02/19/21 5:37:48 PM
#53:


archedsoul posted...
I wonder if the Nexus commercial was intentional in being the Nexus from Star Trek Generations
In the comics, Nexus beings are constant and exist in all realities, and both Vision and Wanda are Nexus beings. Meaning however this show creates the multiverse, it will likely imply multiple Quicksilvers (and still betting on a Magneto reveal at the end, thinking Fassbender), but only one Wanda, who becomes the House of M Scarlet Witch, and one Vision.
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IfGodCouldDie
02/19/21 5:40:28 PM
#54:


Caroniver posted...
Far From Home. Mysterio said he was from Earth 626, which is the main comic universe.
I thought that was 616

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Medussa
02/19/21 5:40:30 PM
#55:


https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Nexus_Beings

it's possible, especially with the Loki TVA series coming up... but i'm still going to go with the "nexus of worlds" interpretation for now. (or both. it's probably both)

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ZevLoveDOOM
02/19/21 5:42:09 PM
#56:


didnt know there was an after credits scene for this episode tbh... >_>

i gave up sitting through the credits since the first couple of episodes. lol
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Unspecified_NPC
02/19/21 5:49:36 PM
#57:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
I thought that was 616
It is, he's thinking of Stitch, experiment 626 lol. Easy mistake

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IfGodCouldDie
02/19/21 5:51:53 PM
#58:


Unspecified_NPC posted...
It is, he's thinking of Stitch, experiment 626 lol. Easy mistake
Lol

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Medussa
02/19/21 5:52:41 PM
#59:


beck actually says the MCU-verse is 616. i forget which he claims is his own. 800 something. it's both a nod to the comics and a hint that he's full of shit.

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IfGodCouldDie
02/19/21 5:54:39 PM
#60:


I'm pretty sure I remember Feige confirming that the MCU is also 616.

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Caroniver
02/19/21 5:58:43 PM
#61:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
I thought that was 616
I rewatched the scene. He says the MCU-verse is 616 (yeah I messed up and said the Stitch number instead lol) and that his was Earth-833, which coincidentally is where the Superhero Spider-UK is from. MCU is supposed to be Earth-199999.

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lolife67
02/19/21 6:03:17 PM
#62:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
I'm pretty sure I remember Feige confirming that the MCU is also 616.
No. Officially it's Earth 19999.
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IfGodCouldDie
02/19/21 6:05:17 PM
#63:


lolife67 posted...
No. Officially it's Earth 19999.
Yea I googled it and I was wrong.

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ssj3vegeta
02/19/21 6:06:31 PM
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lolife67
02/19/21 6:06:45 PM
#65:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Yea I googled it and I was wrong.
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Veggeta X
02/19/21 7:46:27 PM
#66:


WOWOWOWOWOW things just get crazier and crazier. Very good!

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MrToothHasYou
02/19/21 7:47:22 PM
#67:


I feel like the fakeout in Far From Home is kind of moot when a multiverse has more or less already been directly established as fact by the conversation between Banner and the Ancient One (along with Lokis escape) during Endgame.

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Doom_Art
02/19/21 7:51:15 PM
#68:


Reeeeeeaaaaaally hope Pietro isn't just some random dude being puppeted by Agnes

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KogaSteelfang
02/19/21 8:27:36 PM
#70:


Least surprising thing that's happened so far. Though, that song was catchy.

Didn't really feel like much happened. Wanda spent the whole episode on the couch. Vision spent it waiting in traffic, which was stupid since they both knew it was fake and had just stolen a truck... Just to follow all the traffic laws? Just go through the field. >_>
Even at the end with the reveal and the monica stuff, still felt a bit underwhelming this week.

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InfinityMonster
02/19/21 8:29:08 PM
#71:


Didn't read every single post because of spoilers, but in terms of Quicksilver, while it can definitely be a fake out, the other options would really suck. That he's not real/just a guy that looks like him from the MCU.

Especially since he's probably one of the best parts of the of later Fox movies.

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SolidShadow3
02/19/21 9:03:41 PM
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Post just to keep track of where I am in the topic.

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Tired-Insomniac
02/19/21 9:15:39 PM
#74:


ssj3vegeta posted...
Sparky!!!! ;(

Dat bitch has to die for dat

the whole song was brilliant


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PatrickMahomes
02/19/21 9:49:54 PM
#76:


were there any other post credit scenes? this episode or others

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dave_is_slick
02/19/21 9:52:16 PM
#77:


pegusus123456 posted...
I still dunno if it'll be Mephisto though. That might be a lot for this show to be introducing.
It's supposed to directly set up Multiverse of Madness though so how would it be a lot?

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lolife67
02/19/21 9:52:40 PM
#78:


PatrickMahomes posted...
were there any other post credit scenes? this episode or others
Just this episode.
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dave_is_slick
02/19/21 10:00:49 PM
#79:


BLAKUboy posted...
We already had one multiverse fakeout (complete with a pretty blatant dig at people that thought they would actually go there), it's not exactly hard to imagine the "Multiverse of Madness" may not be what we're thinking.
In a Doctor Strange movie? Really?

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jumi
02/19/21 10:02:44 PM
#80:


KogaSteelfang posted...
Least surprising thing that's happened so far. Though, that song was catchy.

Didn't really feel like much happened. Wanda spent the whole episode on the couch. Vision spent it waiting in traffic, which was stupid since they both knew it was fake and had just stolen a truck... Just to follow all the traffic laws? Just go through the field. >_>
Even at the end with the reveal and the monica stuff, still felt a bit underwhelming this week.

Are there even any cops in Westview?

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Veggeta X
02/19/21 10:08:50 PM
#81:


Marvel Comic book nerds on Twitter are saying they always knew Agnes was Agatha LMAO. Did anyone of you guys knew?

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dave_is_slick
02/19/21 10:12:17 PM
#82:


Veggeta X posted...
Did anyone of you guys knew?
It was glaringly obvious and the show wisely didn't really hide.

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slmcknett
02/19/21 10:20:45 PM
#83:


Yeah, it was pretty obvious if you know anything about Wanda's stuff in the comics. But even then, they could've had it be a red herring and gone a different direction on purpose.

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No_U_L7
02/19/21 10:24:24 PM
#84:


ImAMarvel posted...
I really wish I knew Marvel as well as DC. >_>


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IfGodCouldDie
02/19/21 10:29:41 PM
#85:


slmcknett posted...
Yeah, it was pretty obvious if you know anything about Wanda's stuff in the comics. But even then, they could've had it be a red herring and gone a different direction on purpose.
Her interaction with Vision had me second guessing it.

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Veggeta X
02/19/21 10:37:48 PM
#86:


Okay then what is the purpose of that bug then since you guys know shit already?

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slmcknett
02/19/21 10:41:13 PM
#87:


Veggeta X posted...
Okay then what is the purpose of that bug then since you guys know shit already?
Either nothing than to set the scene for being creepy, or it's the demon Mephisto since he was first introduced as a fly.

IfGodCouldDie posted...
Her interaction with Vision had me second guessing it.
tbh, since I was already convinced she was behind things one way or another, I was just like, "nah, she's gotta just be playing along with Vision right now" lol

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lolife67
02/19/21 10:43:03 PM
#88:


Veggeta X posted...
Marvel Comic book nerds on Twitter are saying they always knew Agnes was Agatha LMAO. Did anyone of you guys knew?
Pretty much everyone who knows about Agatha also knew.
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SolidShadow3
02/19/21 11:59:09 PM
#89:


lolife67 posted...
Pretty much everyone who knows about Agatha also knew.
Legit. If you didnt guess that (assuming you know anything about Marvel Comics) your just not paying enough attention

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Sariana21
02/20/21 1:46:42 AM
#90:


So...where are the twins?

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Goatslapper
02/20/21 1:47:52 AM
#91:


It was a pretty great episode tbh buneary

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SolidShadow3
02/20/21 2:07:38 AM
#92:


Sariana21 posted...
So...where are the twins?
2 theories I have

Turned into the Cicada and bunny, or gifted to Mephisto who will be revealed in the final episode

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indica
02/20/21 2:14:03 AM
#93:


Doom_Art posted...
Reeeeeeaaaaaally hope Pietro isn't just some random dude being puppeted by Agnes
Me too, that would be super lame. Waste of a great character and actor

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indica
02/20/21 2:15:11 AM
#94:


SolidShadow3 posted...
2 theories I have

Turned into the Cicada and bunny, or gifted to Mephisto who will be revealed in the final episode
It could be both. It showed them right after she asked where the kids were and she could've changed them to hold them until she gives them to Mephisto

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PoundGarden
02/20/21 2:26:38 AM
#95:


dave_is_slick posted...
It's supposed to directly set up Multiverse of Madness though so how would it be a lot?

We're already accepting magic, aliens, time travel, and soon the Multiverse, FF and X-Men in the MCU. Personally I'd prefer they stay away from the supernatural as much as possible. I think the general public/casuals/people whove never read a comic has accepted and suspended an awful lot of disbelief in regards to the MCU, the literal devil may turn them off and hurt the franchise, it's a bit much imo. The MCU has enough going on without adding another layer of reality or whatever.

That said, they could always take the route they did with the Asgardians and make Mephisto and crew aliens or something vs literal gods and again, the devil.

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pegusus123456
02/20/21 2:33:04 AM
#96:


I don't see how Mephisto demands more suspension of belief than a witch who turned a town into a decade-progressing sitcom.

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PoundGarden
02/20/21 2:42:18 AM
#97:


pegusus123456 posted...
I don't see how Mephisto demands more suspension of belief than a witch who turned a town into a decade-progressing sitcom.

She got her powers from a gem that can alter reality, and we spent 10 years establishing the power of the stones. I can accept that, powerful alien artifact/weapon/whatever.

There's been no allusion towards the existence of heaven or hell, and if they keep Mephisto as the literal devil then that effectively establishes the Bible as being real (which was always my problem with his and to an extent Deaths existence in the comics) in the MCU. Which brings a host of questions and problems, chief o which being where was God during the Infinity War?

It's stupid, unnecessary and just doesn't belong as "canon" in another fictitious universe imo. Both stories are strong enough to exist and stand on their own

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Stalolin
02/20/21 2:45:24 AM
#98:


Per the wiki:

Mephisto is an extra-dimensional demon who first appeared as a fly, while the Celestial known as the Progenitor succumbed to the Horde, with Mephisto taking this opportunity to lay his maggots.[12] He rules a fiery pocket dimension that he calls "Hell" or "Hades" although it is neither the Hell of the Christian religion nor the Hades ruled by Pluto, the Olympian god of the dead. Mephisto calls his extra-dimensional realm "hell" in order to exploit Earth human beings' belief in a single being of absolute evil, who is often referred to as Satan, who rules such a realm.

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pegusus123456
02/20/21 2:46:23 AM
#99:


Yeah, Mephisto doesn't need to be the literal, Bible-confirming devil. You're getting mad at something that will 100% not happen.

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slmcknett
02/20/21 2:47:13 AM
#100:


Yeah, just because occult stuff is real doesn't mean it has to be proof of any specific religion. It's all just wacky comic book stuff.

And even if it was the real Hell, they would just make up their own version of how the afterlife works and the hierarchy of supernatural beings and such.

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IfGodCouldDie
02/20/21 2:57:42 AM
#101:


PoundGarden posted...
She got her powers from a gem that can alter reality, and we spent 10 years establishing the power of the stones. I can accept that, powerful alien artifact/weapon/whatever.

There's been no allusion towards the existence of heaven or hell, and if they keep Mephisto as the literal devil then that effectively establishes the Bible as being real (which was always my problem with his and to an extent Deaths existence in the comics) in the MCU. Which brings a host of questions and problems, chief o which being where was God during the Infinity War?

It's stupid, unnecessary and just doesn't belong as "canon" in another fictitious universe imo. Both stories are strong enough to exist and stand on their own
But they have already established celestial beings in the MCU.

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