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cjsdowg 02/19/21 1:44:33 AM #1:	If the following is true then that is just bad. https://twitter.com/colinkalmbacher/status/1362545159037210625 --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:950823035] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>If the following is true then that is just bad. https://twitter.com/colinkalmbacher/status/1362545159037210625 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caroniver 02/19/21 1:46:27 AM #2:	Oooooh my Gooooood. The Center-Right Democrat was lying about his policies so Progressives would vote for him, then immediately quietly being exactly the same as every other Center-Right Democrat? I'd never have guessed this completely shocking turn of events. --- Mixer of Mega Dash Juices, slayer of giant monsters. The elevation increases as the bullet is fired <cite>Caroniver posted [p:950823079] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Oooooh my Gooooood. The Center-Right Democrat was lying about his policies so Progressives would vote for him, then immediately quietly being exactly the same as every other Center-Right Democrat? I'd never have guessed this completely shocking turn of events. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SolidShadow3 02/19/21 2:29:06 AM #3:	Almost like.. politicians lie or something. Weird --- By Odin's beard! TheDogFather, you will be missed. <cite>SolidShadow3 posted [p:950823819] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Almost like.. politicians lie or something. Weird </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 2:30:22 AM #4:	Reposting my reply from another topic. Are you referring to this memorandum?: https://www.ice.gov/doclib/news/releases/2021/021821_civil-immigration-enforcement_interim-guidance.pdf This was sent out by the current ICE director, Tae Johnson. It's temporary measures until the new DHS secretary issues new guidelines. He was just sworn in on the 2nd of this month and plans to to so within 90 days. So, how does this get blamed on Biden, TC? --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950823843] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Reposting my reply from another topic. Are you referring to this memorandum?: https://www.ice.gov/doclib/news/releases/2021/021821_civil-immigration-enforcement_interim-guidance.pdf This was sent out by the current ICE director, Tae Johnson. It's temporary measures until the new DHS secretary issues new guidelines. He was just sworn in on the 2nd of this month and plans to to so within 90 days. So, how does this get blamed on Biden, TC? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 2:56:37 AM #5:	Eliza3 posted... So, how does this get blamed on Biden Is or isn't Joe Biden this Johnson fellow's boss, and does he or does he not hold the power to make a decision that would override this? --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950824323] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>So, how does this get blamed on Biden</quote>Is or isn't Joe Biden this Johnson fellow's boss, and does he or does he not hold the power to make a decision that would override this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
au_gold 02/19/21 2:59:52 AM #6:	The most progressive president since FDR. --- Let me talk to your mother. Get your mother please. <cite>au_gold posted [p:950824376] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>The most progressive president since FDR. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 3:10:41 AM #7:	scar the 1 posted... Is or isn't Joe Biden this Johnson fellow's boss, and does he or does he not hold the power to make a decision that would override this? The previous director resigned before Biden was sworn in and Johnson replaced him. AFAIK, the DHS oversees ICE, and the current DHS secretary, Mayorkas, is the one who will provide guidance for the agency within 90 days. --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950824555] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>Is or isn't Joe Biden this Johnson fellow's boss, and does he or does he not hold the power to make a decision that would override this?</quote>The previous director resigned before Biden was sworn in and Johnson replaced him. AFAIK, the DHS oversees ICE, and the current DHS secretary, Mayorkas, is the one who will provide guidance for the agency within 90 days. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 02/19/21 3:16:45 AM #8:	I think it is funny that democrats and peoole on the left claim they are tired of old white male politicians but then elect the oldest white guy to be president. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:950824647] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>I think it is funny that democrats and peoole on the left claim they are tired of old white male politicians but then elect the oldest white guy to be president. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 3:28:39 AM #9:	Eliza3 posted... The previous director resigned before Biden was sworn in and Johnson replaced him. AFAIK, the DHS oversees ICE, and the current DHS secretary, Mayorkas, is the one who will provide guidance for the agency within 90 days. Does Joe Biden or does Joe Biden not have the power to influence ICE policy was my question --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950824823] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>The previous director resigned before Biden was sworn in and Johnson replaced him. AFAIK, the DHS oversees ICE, and the current DHS secretary, Mayorkas, is the one who will provide guidance for the agency within 90 days.</quote>Does Joe Biden or does Joe Biden not have the power to influence ICE policy was my question </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/19/21 3:30:08 AM #10:	Even if ICE abolished, all that happens is the same thing that happened when INS was abolished. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:950824842] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Even if ICE abolished, all that happens is the same thing that happened when INS was abolished. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 3:32:25 AM #11:	scar the 1 posted... Does Joe Biden or does Joe Biden not have the power to influence ICE policy was my question That was kind of my initial question --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950824873] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>Does Joe Biden or does Joe Biden not have the power to influence ICE policy was my question</quote>That was kind of my initial question </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 3:36:19 AM #12:	Also, I'm curious about what specifically in the memorandum is a problem? I've heard people complaining that Biden hasn't abolished ICE yet (he never promised to). FTR, I'm all for significantly reforming it or limiting it. But, I'd love some answers to my question. --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950824924] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Also, I'm curious about what specifically in the memorandum is a problem? I've heard people complaining that Biden hasn't abolished ICE yet (he never promised to). FTR, I'm all for significantly reforming it or limiting it. But, I'd love some answers to my question. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 3:36:30 AM #13:	Eliza3 posted... That was kind of my initial question Sorry I thought your initial question was "how does this get blamed on Biden?", to which my response is to illustrate with a rhetorical question that Biden has the power to write policy instructing ICE how to enforce the law. But more generally, your question is pretty absurd because why shouldn't Biden be blamed for things that government agencies do when he's president? Much the same as Trump should take the blame for things govt officials did when he was president. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950824927] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>That was kind of my initial question</quote>Sorry I thought your initial question was "how does this get blamed on Biden?", to which my response is to illustrate with a rhetorical question that Biden has the power to write policy instructing ICE how to enforce the law. But more generally, your question is pretty absurd because why shouldn't Biden be blamed for things that government agencies do when he's president? Much the same as Trump should take the blame for things govt officials did when he was president. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 3:41:33 AM #14:	scar the 1 posted... Sorry I thought your initial question was "how does this get blamed on Biden?", to which my response is to illustrate with a rhetorical question that Biden has the power to write policy instructing ICE how to enforce the law. But more generally, your question is pretty absurd because why shouldn't Biden be blamed for things that government agencies do when he's president? Much the same as Trump should take the blame for things govt officials did when he was president. The Biden admin has already introduced an immigration bill. What should Biden be doing differently here? https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/18/politics/biden-immigration-legislation/index.html --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950824994] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>Sorry I thought your initial question was "how does this get blamed on Biden?", to which my response is to illustrate with a rhetorical question that Biden has the power to write policy instructing ICE how to enforce the law. But more generally, your question is pretty absurd because why shouldn't Biden be blamed for things that government agencies do when he's president? Much the same as Trump should take the blame for things govt officials did when he was president.</quote> The Biden admin has already introduced an immigration bill. What should Biden be doing differently here? https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/18/politics/biden-immigration-legislation/index.html </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 3:43:11 AM #15:	Eliza3 posted... The Biden admin has already introduced an immigration bill. What should Biden be doing differently here? https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/18/politics/biden-immigration-legislation/index.html Halt deportations --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950825024] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>The Biden admin has already introduced an immigration bill. What should Biden be doing differently here? https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/18/politics/biden-immigration-legislation/index.html</quote>Halt deportations </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 3:44:28 AM #16:	scar the 1 posted... Halt deportations He did. Then it got blocked by a federal judge. --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950825048] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>Halt deportations</quote>He did. Then it got blocked by a federal judge. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/19/21 3:46:17 AM #17:	Eliza3 posted... He did. Then it got blocked by a federal judge. The president is actually useless, regardless of John Adams's or FDR's attempts otherwise. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:950825070] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>He did. Then it got blocked by a federal judge.</quote>The president is actually useless, regardless of John Adams's or FDR's attempts otherwise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 3:47:06 AM #18:	Eliza3 posted... He did. Then it got blocked by a federal judge. And so are you saying now that Biden's hands are tied? --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950825088] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>He did. Then it got blocked by a federal judge.</quote>And so are you saying now that Biden's hands are tied? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 3:48:52 AM #19:	scar the 1 posted... And so are you saying now that Biden's hands are tied? Are you saying he didn't halt deportations? --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950825112] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>And so are you saying now that Biden's hands are tied?</quote>Are you saying he didn't halt deportations? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 3:50:15 AM #20:	Eliza3 posted... Are you saying he didn't halt deportations? No, I'm saying that what happens under the Biden administration should be blamed on Biden. But of course he has every opportunity to fix this down the road right? --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950825134] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>Are you saying he didn't halt deportations?</quote>No, I'm saying that what happens under the Biden administration should be blamed on Biden. But of course he has every opportunity to fix this down the road right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 3:51:28 AM #21:	scar the 1 posted... No, I'm saying that what happens under the Biden administration should be blamed on Biden. But of course he has every opportunity to fix this down the road right? Lmao if a Trump-appointed judge blocks an EO, that's Biden's fault? --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950825148] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>No, I'm saying that what happens under the Biden administration should be blamed on Biden. But of course he has every opportunity to fix this down the road right?</quote>Lmao if a Trump-appointed judge blocks an EO, that's Biden's fault? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 3:55:33 AM #22:	Eliza3 posted... Lmao if a Trump-appointed judge blocks an EO, that's Biden's fault? No... Biden is the head of the executive branch. For example, he appointed the current acting secretary of DHS. As such, he's responsible for the actions of the executive branch. Including this. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950825197] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>Lmao if a Trump-appointed judge blocks an EO, that's Biden's fault?</quote>No... Biden is the head of the executive branch. For example, he appointed the current acting secretary of DHS. As such, he's responsible for the actions of the executive branch. Including this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 3:58:11 AM #23:	scar the 1 posted... No... Biden is the head of the executive branch. For example, he appointed the current acting secretary of DHS. As such, he's responsible for the actions of the executive branch. Including this. And it was the judicial branch that blocked it. So what else should Biden do? --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950825240] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>No... Biden is the head of the executive branch. For example, he appointed the current acting secretary of DHS. As such, he's responsible for the actions of the executive branch. Including this.</quote>And it was the judicial branch that blocked it. So what else should Biden do? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 02/19/21 3:59:14 AM #24:	Eliza3 posted... Lmao if a Trump-appointed judge blocks an EO, that's Biden's fault? He's the captain of the ship, he gets the glory when things go right regardless if he did anything, he also takes the flack when things go to shit. --- Ryzen 3800x, 6900XT, 32 gig, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:950825255] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>Lmao if a Trump-appointed judge blocks an EO, that's Biden's fault?</quote>He's the captain of the ship, he gets the glory when things go right regardless if he did anything, he also takes the flack when things go to shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
David1988 02/19/21 3:59:41 AM #25:	If he promised it, yes he should be held responsible for his promise even if a Trump appointed judge is the one who blocked the EO. If he wasnt sure he could get it through then he shouldnt have made the promise in the first place, seems pretty simple. But of course being the career politician he is, he will make lofty promises knowing full well he wont be able to deliver but also knowing he has easy excuses his defenders will eat up as to why he couldnt carry out his promise --- Each night, when I go to sleep, I die. <cite>David1988 posted [p:950825260] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>If he promised it, yes he should be held responsible for his promise even if a Trump appointed judge is the one who blocked the EO. If he wasnt sure he could get it through then he shouldnt have made the promise in the first place, seems pretty simple. But of course being the career politician he is, he will make lofty promises knowing full well he wont be able to deliver but also knowing he has easy excuses his defenders will eat up as to why he couldnt carry out his promise </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 4:01:56 AM #26:	pogo_rabid posted... He's the captain of the ship, he gets the glory when things go right regardless if he did anything, he also takes the flack when things go to shit. How does a president overrule the judicial branch? Furthermore, what, specifically, about this memorandum shows that things have gone "to shit"? --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950825288] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>He's the captain of the ship, he gets the glory when things go right regardless if he did anything, he also takes the flack when things go to shit.</quote>How does a president overrule the judicial branch? Furthermore, what, specifically, about this memorandum shows that things have gone "to shit"? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 02/19/21 4:08:05 AM #27:	It doesn't matter, he's the face of the country, for better or worse. When things are written in the history books, they will be primarily be attributed to the current sitting president unless you dig deeper in your research. EDIT: And i'm talking in a general sense of how these things work, i'm not referring to anything specific in this instance. --- Ryzen 3800x, 6900XT, 32 gig, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:950825366] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>It doesn't matter, he's the face of the country, for better or worse. When things are written in the history books, they will be primarily be attributed to the current sitting president unless you dig deeper in your research. EDIT: And i'm talking in a general sense of how these things work, i'm not referring to anything specific in this instance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 4:17:01 AM #28:	pogo_rabid posted... unless you dig deeper in your research. So it's Biden's fault but not really if you do research. Great post btw --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950825469] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>unless you dig deeper in your research. </quote>So it's Biden's fault but not really if you do research. Great post btw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 02/19/21 4:19:40 AM #29:	That's how it works, yeah. --- Ryzen 3800x, 6900XT, 32 gig, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:950825509] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>That's how it works, yeah. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnvoyOfTheLight 02/19/21 4:23:08 AM #30:	scar the 1 posted... Does Joe Biden or does Joe Biden not have the power to influence ICE policy was my question He does, just not immediate power. TC's premise on Joe seemingly enacting this is entirely false, though the blame lays with him if this is continued. --- i horf and i <cite>EnvoyOfTheLight posted [p:950825542] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>Does Joe Biden or does Joe Biden not have the power to influence ICE policy was my question</quote>He does, just not immediate power. TC's premise on Joe seemingly enacting this is entirely false, though the blame lays with him if this is continued. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 4:28:13 AM #31:	pogo_rabid posted... That's how it works, yeah. Truly illuminating stuff --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950825601] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>That's how it works, yeah.</quote>Truly illuminating stuff </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 4:56:59 AM #32:	Eliza3 posted... And it was the judicial branch that blocked it. So what else should Biden do? I'm still not quite understanding your point. Are you actually saying that the interim policies couldn't under any circumstance be different than what they are right now? --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950825956] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>And it was the judicial branch that blocked it. So what else should Biden do?</quote>I'm still not quite understanding your point. Are you actually saying that the interim policies couldn't under any circumstance be different than what they are right now? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 5:06:25 AM #33:	scar the 1 posted... I'm still not quite understanding your point. Are you actually saying that the interim policies couldn't under any circumstance be different than what they are right now? We're talking about two different things. The memorandum (1) and the EO to halt deportations (2). This post was about the EO. So two questions regarding the former: Who do you think is responsible for the content in the memorandum? And what, specifically, is the problem with said content? --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950826086] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm still not quite understanding your point. Are you actually saying that the interim policies couldn't under any circumstance be different than what they are right now?</quote>We're talking about two different things. The memorandum (1) and the EO to halt deportations (2). This post was about the EO. So two questions regarding the former: Who do you think is responsible for the content in the memorandum? And what, specifically, is the problem with said content? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 5:17:23 AM #34:	Eliza3 posted... We're talking about two different things. The memorandum (1) and the EO to halt deportations (2). This post was about the EO. So two questions regarding the former: Who do you think is responsible for the content in the memorandum? And what, specifically, is the problem with said content? Yeah, I was never talking about the EO. I'm saying Biden is ultimately responsible for the content in the memo. I'm not saying he wrote it. I'm saying that as president, he's responsible. Whatever ICE do right now, Biden is responsible, that's how it works. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950826237] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>We're talking about two different things. The memorandum (1) and the EO to halt deportations (2). This post was about the EO. So two questions regarding the former: Who do you think is responsible for the content in the memorandum? And what, specifically, is the problem with said content?</quote>Yeah, I was never talking about the EO. I'm saying Biden is ultimately responsible for the content in the memo. I'm not saying he wrote it. I'm saying that as president, he's responsible. Whatever ICE do right now, Biden is responsible, that's how it works. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 5:23:12 AM #35:	scar the 1 posted... Yeah, I was never talking about the EO. I'm saying Biden is ultimately responsible for the content in the memo. I'm not saying he wrote it. I'm saying that as president, he's responsible. Whatever ICE do right now, Biden is responsible, that's how it works. Okay so you think Biden is responsible. How about the second question? What, specifically, should he be blamed for here? What's wrong with the memo? --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950826300] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, I was never talking about the EO. I'm saying Biden is ultimately responsible for the content in the memo. I'm not saying he wrote it. I'm saying that as president, he's responsible. Whatever ICE do right now, Biden is responsible, that's how it works.</quote> Okay so you think Biden is responsible. How about the second question? What, specifically, should he be blamed for here? What's wrong with the memo? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 5:25:30 AM #36:	I agree with the ACLU --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950826338] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>I agree with the ACLU </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 5:26:24 AM #37:	scar the 1 posted... I agree with the ACLU What specifically in the memo, do you take issue with? Either list something specific or I'll assume you didn't read it. --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950826358] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>I agree with the ACLU</quote>What specifically in the memo, do you take issue with? Either list something specific or I'll assume you didn't read it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 5:31:21 AM #38:	Eliza3 posted... What specifically in the memo, do you take issue with? Either list something specific or I'll assume you didn't read it. Assume whatever you want --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950826427] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>What specifically in the memo, do you take issue with? Either list something specific or I'll assume you didn't read it.</quote>Assume whatever you want </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 5:32:13 AM #39:	scar the 1 posted... Assume whatever you want As I thought. You're just being emotional and reactionary without understanding what you're talking about. --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950826439] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>Assume whatever you want</quote>As I thought. You're just being emotional and reactionary without understanding what you're talking about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 5:36:17 AM #40:	Eliza3 posted... As I thought. You're just being emotional and reactionary without understanding what you're talking about. Or I just happen to agree with what has already been stated --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950826480] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>As I thought. You're just being emotional and reactionary without understanding what you're talking about.</quote>Or I just happen to agree with what has already been stated </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 5:42:10 AM #41:	scar the 1 posted... Or I just happen to agree with what has already been stated You agree with a reactionary interpretation about a memo that is available to you but you haven't bothered to read, and thus, don't know what you're talking about. --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950826545] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>Or I just happen to agree with what has already been stated</quote>You agree with a reactionary interpretation about a memo that is available to you but you haven't bothered to read, and thus, don't know what you're talking about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 5:44:32 AM #42:	Eliza3 posted... You agree with a reactionary interpretation about a memo that is available to you but you haven't bothered to read, and thus, don't know what you're talking about. I literally have the memo in front of me. I appreciate your insistence that I read the memo personally before judging it, but I've done that. And I agree with the ACLU's statement. Is it wrong? --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950826581] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>You agree with a reactionary interpretation about a memo that is available to you but you haven't bothered to read, and thus, don't know what you're talking about.</quote>I literally have the memo in front of me. I appreciate your insistence that I read the memo personally before judging it, but I've done that. And I agree with the ACLU's statement. Is it wrong? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 5:46:33 AM #43:	scar the 1 posted... I literally have the memo in front of me. I appreciate your insistence that I read the memo personally before judging it, but I've done that. And I agree with the ACLU's statement. Is it wrong? Eliza3 posted... What specifically in the memo, do you take issue with? --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950826611] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>I literally have the memo in front of me. I appreciate your insistence that I read the memo personally before judging it, but I've done that. And I agree with the ACLU's statement. Is it wrong?</quote> Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>What specifically in the memo, do you take issue with?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 5:59:07 AM #44:	Can you only answer a question with a question? The ACLU statement is pretty clear. Specifically: The interim enforcement priorities detailed today import the injustices of the criminal legal system and will lead to continued disproportionate deportations of Black and Brown immigrants. The priorities use sweeping and overbroad presumptions of threat that have for decades resulted in biased profiling and harmful immigration consequences for Black and Brown people, including Muslims. The priorities presume that all recent border crossers are threats, in total contravention of President Bidens commitment to ensuring that people seeking asylum are treated with dignity. Is this incorrect in your opinion? --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950826789] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Can you only answer a question with a question? The ACLU statement is pretty clear. Specifically: <quote>The interim enforcement priorities detailed today import the injustices of the criminal legal system and will lead to continued disproportionate deportations of Black and Brown immigrants. The priorities use sweeping and overbroad presumptions of threat that have for decades resulted in biased profiling and harmful immigration consequences for Black and Brown people, including Muslims. The priorities presume that all recent border crossers are threats, in total contravention of President Bidens commitment to ensuring that people seeking asylum are treated with dignity.</quote>Is this incorrect in your opinion? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 6:11:24 AM #45:	scar the 1 posted... Can you only answer a question with a question? The ACLU statement is pretty clear. Specifically: Is this incorrect in your opinion? I've asked you repeatedly the same question and you refuse to answer it. Why should I do your homework for you? Just tell me one guideline from the memo that you disagree with. FTR, I think ICE generally disproportionately targets POC and is overall a corrupt agency. That's why I'm glad the WH put forth the new immigration bill to expand citizenship opportunities. And I'm looking forward to what Mayorkas does and hope it's not gonna be shit. --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950826938] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>Can you only answer a question with a question? The ACLU statement is pretty clear. Specifically: Is this incorrect in your opinion?</quote>I've asked you repeatedly the same question and you refuse to answer it. Why should I do your homework for you? Just tell me one guideline from the memo that you disagree with. FTR, I think ICE generally disproportionately targets POC and is overall a corrupt agency. That's why I'm glad the WH put forth the new immigration bill to expand citizenship opportunities. And I'm looking forward to what Mayorkas does and hope it's not gonna be shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcanine2009 02/19/21 6:18:27 AM #46:	obama deported a lot of people when he was president. not too surprised --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted [p:950827017] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>obama deported a lot of people when he was president. not too surprised </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/19/21 10:41:10 AM #47:	Eliza3 posted... I've asked you repeatedly the same question and you refuse to answer it. Why should I do your homework for you? Just tell me one guideline from the memo that you disagree with. FTR, I think ICE generally disproportionately targets POC and is overall a corrupt agency. That's why I'm glad the WH put forth the new immigration bill to expand citizenship opportunities. And I'm looking forward to what Mayorkas does and hope it's not gonna be shit. Wtf is your problem? Do you need me to connect the dots for you? Like, why are you so insistent with making sure that I read the fucking memo? The second prioritzed group constitutes literally everyone who entered the country illegally after November 1st, which is what the quote from the ACLU is addressing, and I agree with the assessment from the quote. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, nor am I making any bigger point than "I agree with this", so why is it so important to you that I read the memo with my own two eyes? --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:950832618] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>I've asked you repeatedly the same question and you refuse to answer it. Why should I do your homework for you? Just tell me one guideline from the memo that you disagree with. FTR, I think ICE generally disproportionately targets POC and is overall a corrupt agency. That's why I'm glad the WH put forth the new immigration bill to expand citizenship opportunities. And I'm looking forward to what Mayorkas does and hope it's not gonna be shit.</quote>Wtf is your problem? Do you need me to connect the dots for you? Like, why are you so insistent with making sure that I read the fucking memo? The second prioritzed group constitutes literally everyone who entered the country illegally after November 1st, which is what the quote from the ACLU is addressing, and I agree with the assessment from the quote. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, nor am I making any bigger point than "I agree with this", so why is it so important to you that I read the memo with my own two eyes? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SPE 02/19/21 10:57:06 AM #48:	This underscores the dire situation were in. after 4 years of trump and Stephen Miller doing horrible atrocities in the name of reverting back the demographics to their 1950 state, progressives will sour on biden and weaken him and whoever the next candidate is because they dont get everything they want, even if that means ending with Trump 2.0 --- Welcome to the Spore Store! My shrooms are delicious, suspicious, but never malicious! <cite>SPE posted [p:950833207] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>This underscores the dire situation were in. after 4 years of trump and Stephen Miller doing horrible atrocities in the name of reverting back the demographics to their 1950 state, progressives will sour on biden and weaken him and whoever the next candidate is because they dont get everything they want, even if that means ending with Trump 2.0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eliza3 02/19/21 11:09:57 AM #49:	scar the 1 posted... Wtf is your problem? Do you need me to connect the dots for you? Like, why are you so insistent with making sure that I read the fucking memo? The second prioritzed group constitutes literally everyone who entered the country illegally after November 1st, which is what the quote from the ACLU is addressing, and I agree with the assessment from the quote. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, nor am I making any bigger point than "I agree with this", so why is it so important to you that I read the memo with my own two eyes? Calm down. I asked you a question multiple times and you refused to answer. As to why it's important that you read it if you're going to criticize it... do you really need that explained to you? Regarding that quote, crossing the border illegally is not equivalent to seeking asylum. There are ways to seek asylum, and none of them require an illegal border crossing. --- Early 30's. Exceedingly supple. https://imgur.com/hxX9JBA <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:950833681] in ICE wins..... [t:79304595]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>Wtf is your problem? Do you need me to connect the dots for you? Like, why are you so insistent with making sure that I read the fucking memo? The second prioritzed group constitutes literally everyone who entered the country illegally after November 1st, which is what the quote from the ACLU is addressing, and I agree with the assessment from the quote. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, nor am I making any bigger point than "I agree with this", so why is it so important to you that I read the memo with my own two eyes?</quote>Calm down. I asked you a question multiple times and you refused to answer. As to why it's important that you read it if you're going to criticize it... do you really need that explained to you? Regarding that quote, crossing the border illegally is not equivalent to seeking asylum. There are ways to seek asylum, and none of them require an illegal border crossing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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