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Bio1590 02/16/21 11:17:53 PM #1:	https://www.dallasnews.com/news/weather/2021/02/16/ercot-says-they-have-no-idea-when-texas-power-outages-will-end/ Texas power grid operators cant predict when outages might end, Electric Reliability Council of Texas officials said Tuesday. As of 6 p.m. more than 3 million Texans, many of them in North Texas, are enduring extended outages as icy conditions have settled in across the region. ERCOT, the agency that oversees the states power grid, is trying to avoid a total blackout by instructing utility companies, including Oncor Electric Delivery, to cut power to customers. We needed to step in and make sure that we were not going to end up with Texas in a blackout, which could keep folks without power not just some people without power but everyone in our region without power for much, much longer than we believe this event is going to last, as long and as difficult as this event is right now, ERCOT CEO Bill Magness said. When reporters pressed for a timeline, he and Senior Director of System Operations Dan Woodfin could not say how much longer the outages would last. An uncontrolled blackout could leave Texans without power for an indeterminate amount of time, maybe a month, Magness said. The officials also described the challenge of keeping power restored throughout peak-demand hours, including the morning and nighttime. Throughout the day, ERCOT and Gov. Greg Abbott announced power was being restored to hundreds of thousands of customers, but the gains arent always maintained. At the same time weve been adding supply to the grid from certain generators, weve also been losing other generators, Woodfin said. So we havent been able to add as much back during the course of the day that we would like and what we have added back, were hoping to keep online. But if additional generation doesnt become available as the day goes on, we may actually have to take some of it back offline to maintain that power and supply balance. Controlled outages should have been rotated throughout areas for 15 to 45 minutes, but they have been drastically extended for thousands of people, even as others havent experienced any outages. Oncor officials have not answered questions about how they choose which parts of the city they cut power to and which they dont, except to say they try to avoid critical infrastructure such as hospitals. Oncor officials said they tried to trade power among neighborhoods but were unsuccessful because of the grids weakening stability, Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins said in a call Monday with Oncor spokeswoman Kerri Dunn. We recognize the hardships and extreme frustration customers without power face during these historical low temperatures and are ready to deliver power as soon as electric generators are able to provide it, Oncor said Tuesday on Twitter. As soon as enough generation is available, we will return to a regular cadence of rotating outages with the goal of providing any temporary relief that we can for those who have been without power the longest. An Oncor representative would only refer to a news release that did not answer questions about how neighborhoods were chosen for outages. Gov. Greg Abbott called on legislators, who are now in session, to investigate ERCOT and its handling of the storm. The Electric Reliability Council of Texas has been anything but reliable over the past 48 hours, he said. Reviewing the preparations and decisions by ERCOT is an emergency item so we can get a full picture of what caused this problem and find long-term solutions, Abbott said. I thank my partners in the House and Senate for acting quickly on this challenge, and I will work with them to enhance Texas electric grid and ensure that our state never experiences power outages like this again. https://twitter.com/RafaelAnchia/status/1361753136306692097 ERCOT officials did not provide state legislators with a specific estimate for when outages might end. After being pushed by lawmakers, ERCOT would say only that it could be days before power is restored for all customers, State Rep. Rafael Ancha (D-Dallas) posted on Twitter. In an email to members ERCOT said, Even if there is good progress, returning to normal conditions is going to take additional time. State Rep. Gene Wu (D-Houston) wrote on Twitter that ERCOT told lawmakers that it knew last week that controlled outages would be needed but that it did not communicate that to the public until Sunday. They apologize for not letting the public know that this was what was going to happen, Wu said. https://twitter.com/GeneforTexas/status/1361732277638631425 During a call with reporters Tuesday, Magness and Woodfin did not say they knew outages would be needed last week, but they did say they saw the storm coming and were prepared for weather similar in severity to what Texas faced in 2011 and 2018. But they realized Sunday that conditions this week would be much worse than other storms inflicted. What we saw this week is a historic unprecedented weather event, Magness said. ... There will and there should be a significant review of this event. A big winter storm in 2011 also knocked power generators offline and prompted rolling blackouts in the state. Lawmakers conducted hearings and demanded changes to prevent similar problems. Glenn Hegar, a Republican state senator at the time, authored a bill which became law that requires the state to track and report how well prepared the states electric grid is for extreme weather. When I passed this legislation, it was intended to identify the mistakes made in 2011 and ensure that our power grid, including our generation capacity, was prepared for winter weather emergencies, Hegar, who is now state comptroller, said in a written statement. While the issues that are plaguing our electric grid system in this disastrous winter storm are complex, I am extremely frustrated that 10 years later our electric grid remains so ill-equipped for these weather events. He said the first priority is restoring power to all Texans. After that, he said, we must address why, after 10 years have passed, are we in a worse position today than in 2011. Why are certain areas going without power for two days or longer, while other areas have successfully navigated through rolling blackouts, or never experience power outages at all? The most pressing question is what can Texas do in the 21st century to ensure that our grid doesnt experience these issues again? The state is also required to review plans that power generators submit on how theyll withstand extreme heat or cold. But those plans are voluntary, not required. ERCOT reviews about 100 of those plans each year, Woodfin said Tuesday. Usually the reviews are in person, but they werent this past year because of the coronavirus pandemic. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/S1m3po4 https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:950722602] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>https://www.dallasnews.com/news/weather/2021/02/16/ercot-says-they-have-no-idea-when-texas-power-outages-will-end/ <quote>Texas power grid operators cant predict when outages might end, Electric Reliability Council of Texas officials said Tuesday. As of 6 p.m. more than 3 million Texans, many of them in North Texas, are enduring extended outages as icy conditions have settled in across the region. ERCOT, the agency that oversees the states power grid, is trying to avoid a total blackout by instructing utility companies, including Oncor Electric Delivery, to cut power to customers. We needed to step in and make sure that we were not going to end up with Texas in a blackout, which could keep folks without power not just some people without power but everyone in our region without power for much, much longer than we believe this event is going to last, as long and as difficult as this event is right now, ERCOT CEO Bill Magness said. When reporters pressed for a timeline, he and Senior Director of System Operations Dan Woodfin could not say how much longer the outages would last. An uncontrolled blackout could leave Texans without power for an indeterminate amount of time, maybe a month, Magness said. The officials also described the challenge of keeping power restored throughout peak-demand hours, including the morning and nighttime. Throughout the day, ERCOT and Gov. Greg Abbott announced power was being restored to hundreds of thousands of customers, but the gains arent always maintained. At the same time weve been adding supply to the grid from certain generators, weve also been losing other generators, Woodfin said. So we havent been able to add as much back during the course of the day that we would like and what we have added back, were hoping to keep online. But if additional generation doesnt become available as the day goes on, we may actually have to take some of it back offline to maintain that power and supply balance. Controlled outages should have been rotated throughout areas for 15 to 45 minutes, but they have been drastically extended for thousands of people, even as others havent experienced any outages. Oncor officials have not answered questions about how they choose which parts of the city they cut power to and which they dont, except to say they try to avoid critical infrastructure such as hospitals. Oncor officials said they tried to trade power among neighborhoods but were unsuccessful because of the grids weakening stability, Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins said in a call Monday with Oncor spokeswoman Kerri Dunn. We recognize the hardships and extreme frustration customers without power face during these historical low temperatures and are ready to deliver power as soon as electric generators are able to provide it, Oncor said Tuesday on Twitter. As soon as enough generation is available, we will return to a regular cadence of rotating outages with the goal of providing any temporary relief that we can for those who have been without power the longest. An Oncor representative would only refer to a news release that did not answer questions about how neighborhoods were chosen for outages. Gov. Greg Abbott called on legislators, who are now in session, to investigate ERCOT and its handling of the storm. The Electric Reliability Council of Texas has been anything but reliable over the past 48 hours, he said. Reviewing the preparations and decisions by ERCOT is an emergency item so we can get a full picture of what caused this problem and find long-term solutions, Abbott said. I thank my partners in the House and Senate for acting quickly on this challenge, and I will work with them to enhance Texas electric grid and ensure that our state never experiences power outages like this again. https://twitter.com/RafaelAnchia/status/1361753136306692097 ERCOT officials did not provide state legislators with a specific estimate for when outages might end. After being pushed by lawmakers, ERCOT would say only that it could be days before power is restored for all customers, State Rep. Rafael Ancha (D-Dallas) posted on Twitter. In an email to members ERCOT said, Even if there is good progress, returning to normal conditions is going to take additional time. State Rep. Gene Wu (D-Houston) wrote on Twitter that ERCOT told lawmakers that it knew last week that controlled outages would be needed but that it did not communicate that to the public until Sunday. They apologize for not letting the public know that this was what was going to happen, Wu said. https://twitter.com/GeneforTexas/status/1361732277638631425 During a call with reporters Tuesday, Magness and Woodfin did not say they knew outages would be needed last week, but they did say they saw the storm coming and were prepared for weather similar in severity to what Texas faced in 2011 and 2018. But they realized Sunday that conditions this week would be much worse than other storms inflicted. What we saw this week is a historic unprecedented weather event, Magness said. ... There will and there should be a significant review of this event. A big winter storm in 2011 also knocked power generators offline and prompted rolling blackouts in the state. Lawmakers conducted hearings and demanded changes to prevent similar problems. Glenn Hegar, a Republican state senator at the time, authored a bill which became law that requires the state to track and report how well prepared the states electric grid is for extreme weather. When I passed this legislation, it was intended to identify the mistakes made in 2011 and ensure that our power grid, including our generation capacity, was prepared for winter weather emergencies, Hegar, who is now state comptroller, said in a written statement. While the issues that are plaguing our electric grid system in this disastrous winter storm are complex, I am extremely frustrated that 10 years later our electric grid remains so ill-equipped for these weather events. He said the first priority is restoring power to all Texans. After that, he said, we must address why, after 10 years have passed, are we in a worse position today than in 2011. Why are certain areas going without power for two days or longer, while other areas have successfully navigated through rolling blackouts, or never experience power outages at all? The most pressing question is what can Texas do in the 21st century to ensure that our grid doesnt experience these issues again? The state is also required to review plans that power generators submit on how theyll withstand extreme heat or cold. But those plans are voluntary, not required. ERCOT reviews about 100 of those plans each year, Woodfin said Tuesday. Usually the reviews are in person, but they werent this past year because of the coronavirus pandemic.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RetsuZaiZen 02/16/21 11:18:49 PM #2:	Horrible, horrible situation --- Why do nerdsalways get caught up on the details? https://imgur.com/dntQM https://imgur.com/9gNcUGM https://imgur.com/bH8vq3f <cite>RetsuZaiZen posted [p:950722637] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>Horrible, horrible situation </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
soulunison2 02/16/21 11:21:20 PM #3:	damn thats what happens when you let the market regulate itself huh <cite>soulunison2 posted [p:950722712] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>damn thats what happens when you let the market regulate itself huh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 02/16/21 11:21:54 PM #4:	Lol Texas --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:950722729] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>Lol Texas </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 02/16/21 11:23:56 PM #5:	Welcome to the red kingdom! --- #FeelTheBern https://imgur.com/q5z4CUu https://imgur.com/6B9oFXh https://imgur.com/sy42Dlf <cite>lilORANG posted [p:950722777] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>Welcome to the red kingdom!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 02/16/21 11:26:26 PM #6:	My family just lost power so uh yeah....bad times in Texas. I hope heads actually roll for this and it's a turning point and a wakeup call. You actually have to invest in some things and do things the right way. Some problems don't care about your obsession with freedumb and low taxes and no regulations. Covid doesn't care and the weather doesn't care. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:950722845] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>My family just lost power so uh yeah....bad times in Texas. I hope heads actually roll for this and it's a turning point and a wakeup call. You actually have to invest in some things and do things the right way. Some problems don't care about your obsession with freedumb and low taxes and no regulations. Covid doesn't care and the weather doesn't care. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 02/16/21 11:28:02 PM #7:	You elect Republicans and this is what happens. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:950722886] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>You elect Republicans and this is what happens. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 02/16/21 11:29:03 PM #8:	legendary_zell posted... My family just lost power so uh yeah....bad times in Texas. I hope heads actually roll for this and it's a turning point and a wakeup call. You actually have to invest in some things and do things the right way. Some problems don't care about your obsession with freedumb and low taxes and no regulations. Covid doesn't care and the weather doesn't care. Given Abbott's media appearances so far they're absolutely going to fuck it up even more to "fix" it. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/S1m3po4 https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:950722912] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote>My family just lost power so uh yeah....bad times in Texas. I hope heads actually roll for this and it's a turning point and a wakeup call. You actually have to invest in some things and do things the right way. Some problems don't care about your obsession with freedumb and low taxes and no regulations. Covid doesn't care and the weather doesn't care. </quote> Given Abbott's media appearances so far they're absolutely going to fuck it up even more to "fix" it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 02/16/21 11:29:06 PM #9:	If this is anything like when CT's power company screwed the pooch a few years ago on this level, nothing will happen. Ours rebranded to make it seem like there was a new power company put in charge, but it was all bullshit. The entire state was down for over a week, and some parts took almost a month to get power back, during a massive snowstorm/coldsnap. --- Ryzen 3800x, 6900XT, 32 gig, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:950722916] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>If this is anything like when CT's power company screwed the pooch a few years ago on this level, nothing will happen. Ours rebranded to make it seem like there was a new power company put in charge, but it was all bullshit. The entire state was down for over a week, and some parts took almost a month to get power back, during a massive snowstorm/coldsnap. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cowthief 02/16/21 11:31:54 PM #10:	Doom_Art posted... You elect Republicans and this is what happens. Wasn't too long ago Texas and their Orange Overlord were cheering happily at the wildfires burning in California... --- There is no success like excess! he/him <cite>Cowthief posted [p:950722996] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>You elect Republicans and this is what happens.</quote> Wasn't too long ago Texas and their Orange Overlord were cheering happily at the wildfires burning in California... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wetterdew 02/16/21 11:33:02 PM #11:	pogo_rabid posted... If this is anything like when CT's power company screwed the pooch a few years ago on this level, nothing will happen. Ours rebranded to make it seem like there was a new power company put in charge, but it was all bullshit. The entire state was down for over a week, and some parts took almost a month to get power back, during a massive snowstorm/coldsnap. Texas already had legislation in 2011 I believe to prevent this from happening, and I think they just ignored it and allowed it to happen again anyway. --- Talking about video games? it's ok to just disagree with each other on the internet. No point getting hostile or snide about it <cite>Wetterdew posted [p:950723020] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>If this is anything like when CT's power company screwed the pooch a few years ago on this level, nothing will happen. Ours rebranded to make it seem like there was a new power company put in charge, but it was all bullshit. The entire state was down for over a week, and some parts took almost a month to get power back, during a massive snowstorm/coldsnap.</quote>Texas already had legislation in 2011 I believe to prevent this from happening, and I think they just ignored it and allowed it to happen again anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 02/16/21 11:33:11 PM #12:	Cowthief posted... Wasn't too long ago Texas and their Orange Overlord were cheering happily at the wildfires burning in California... Also when hurricane harvey hit NJ and they were fighting against giving aid to the state...and when hurricane sandy hit they fought against giving aid to PA. --- Ryzen 3800x, 6900XT, 32 gig, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:950723025] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>Cowthief posted... </cite> <quote>Wasn't too long ago Texas and their Orange Overlord were cheering happily at the wildfires burning in California...</quote>Also when hurricane harvey hit NJ and they were fighting against giving aid to the state...and when hurricane sandy hit they fought against giving aid to PA. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 02/16/21 11:33:26 PM #13:	soulunison2 posted... damn thats what happens when you let the market regulate itself huh --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:950723028] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>soulunison2 posted... </cite> <quote>damn thats what happens when you let the market regulate itself huh</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 02/16/21 11:34:41 PM #14:	Maybe we need to mop our power plants --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:950723051] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>Maybe we need to mop our power plants </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 02/16/21 11:47:51 PM #15:	Doom_Art posted... You elect Republicans and this is what happens. Did you know people on the right say the same thing about democrats when something happens in a blue state Maybe y'all should all vote for me instead --- Common sense shot Elmo! - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:950723355] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>You elect Republicans and this is what happens.</quote>Did you know people on the right say the same thing about democrats when something happens in a blue state Maybe y'all should all vote for me instead </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
loafy013 02/16/21 11:50:50 PM #16:	Smackems posted... Did you know people on the right say the same thing about democrats when something happens in a blue state Maybe y'all should all vote for me instead Until somebody on the right can show me a democrat run state anywhere near the level of Kansas, maybe I'll listen to what they have to say about "librul states". --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. <cite>loafy013 posted [p:950723424] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>Did you know people on the right say the same thing about democrats when something happens in a blue state Maybe y'all should all vote for me instead</quote>Until somebody on the right can show me a democrat run state anywhere near the level of Kansas, maybe I'll listen to what they have to say about "librul states". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorPiranha3 02/16/21 11:51:38 PM #17:	A month of no power? Hahahahaha. God dammit. <cite>DoctorPiranha3 posted [p:950723438] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>A month of no power? Hahahahaha. God dammit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 02/17/21 12:01:09 AM #18:	loafy013 posted... Until somebody on the right can show me a democrat run state anywhere near the level of Kansas, maybe I'll listen to what they have to say about "librul states". Ok Vote for me --- Common sense shot Elmo! - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:950723630] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>loafy013 posted... </cite> <quote>Until somebody on the right can show me a democrat run state anywhere near the level of Kansas, maybe I'll listen to what they have to say about "librul states".</quote>Ok Vote for me </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 02/17/21 12:07:08 AM #19:	Still incredible to consider that the cost to "winterize" wind turbines is like a rounding error in their overall cost and Texas was like "lol no". --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/S1m3po4 https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:950723741] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>Still incredible to consider that the cost to "winterize" wind turbines is like a rounding error in their overall cost and Texas was like "lol no".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 02/17/21 12:22:23 AM #20:	Bad things will happen regardless who's in power. What really makes the difference is the response. --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:950724045] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>Bad things will happen regardless who's in power. What really makes the difference is the response. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skermac 02/17/21 12:25:51 AM #21:	Dissolve ercot --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive <cite>skermac posted [p:950724137] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>Dissolve ercot </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 02/17/21 9:14:43 AM #22:	Smackems posted... Did you know people on the right say the same thing about democrats when something happens in a blue state I don't give a shit what people on the right have to say about anything --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:950732116] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>Did you know people on the right say the same thing about democrats when something happens in a blue state</quote>I don't give a shit what people on the right have to say about anything </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cuticrusader09 02/17/21 9:25:17 AM #23:	pogo_rabid posted... If this is anything like when CT's power company screwed the pooch a few years ago on this level, nothing will happen. Ours rebranded to make it seem like there was a new power company put in charge, but it was all bullshit. The entire state was down for over a week, and some parts took almost a month to get power back, during a massive snowstorm/coldsnap. CTs issue wasnt with power production though. It was due to downed power lines. The snow ended up on trees near power lines, the trees fell (because the weight of the snow on leaves was too much) and down went the power. That was due to the company not maintaining the trees near power lines. Since then there has been a lot of tree cutting. But even during that time not all were down for over a week. I didnt have power for a day but I live in an area that didnt have many trees near lines. --- AC - Violet on Penny. (N), Rose on Sapphire (S) <cite>Cuticrusader09 posted [p:950732399] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote> pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>If this is anything like when CT's power company screwed the pooch a few years ago on this level, nothing will happen. Ours rebranded to make it seem like there was a new power company put in charge, but it was all bullshit. The entire state was down for over a week, and some parts took almost a month to get power back, during a massive snowstorm/coldsnap.</quote> CTs issue wasnt with power production though. It was due to downed power lines. The snow ended up on trees near power lines, the trees fell (because the weight of the snow on leaves was too much) and down went the power. That was due to the company not maintaining the trees near power lines. Since then there has been a lot of tree cutting. But even during that time not all were down for over a week. I didnt have power for a day but I live in an area that didnt have many trees near lines. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 02/17/21 9:28:23 AM #24:	Bio1590 posted... Still incredible to consider that the cost to "winterize" wind turbines is like a rounding error in their overall cost and Texas was like "lol no". well they needed something to point at and blame when their gas power plants failed because they forgot to insulate the water return pipes... --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:950732493] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>Bio1590 posted... </cite> <quote>Still incredible to consider that the cost to "winterize" wind turbines is like a rounding error in their overall cost and Texas was like "lol no".</quote>well they needed something to point at and blame when their gas power plants failed because they forgot to insulate the water return pipes... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 02/17/21 9:36:59 AM #25:	remember when in 2011 people told Texas "hey guys, you better winterize your power plants in case you get a storm over the winter" and Texas was all like "SCREW YOUR LIBBY HIPPY RULES AND REGULATIONS BECAUSE THAT SHIT COSTS MONEY" and now people are literally dying so a few rich dudes who own the power plants could profit even more, but hey at least y'all don't have to deal with pesky rules and regulations --- Playing: Yakuza 3; Hades; Dead Cells; You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:950732694] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>remember when in 2011 people told Texas "hey guys, you better winterize your power plants in case you get a storm over the winter" and Texas was all like "SCREW YOUR LIBBY HIPPY RULES AND REGULATIONS BECAUSE THAT SHIT COSTS MONEY" and now people are literally dying so a few rich dudes who own the power plants could profit even more, but hey at least y'all don't have to deal with pesky rules and regulations </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cowthief 02/17/21 9:41:05 AM #26:	https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1361905122767491076 --- There is no success like excess! he/him <cite>Cowthief posted [p:950732796] in ERCOT offi... [t:79299546]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1361905122767491076 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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