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Shadowplay
02/13/21 1:18:49 PM
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C/D: In OoT, you barely use the Master Sword.


C. I always laughed at how the Player's Guide recommended using the Megaton Hammer during a certain phase of the final boss. I know it was written with people that didn't get the Biggorn Sword in mind, but still...

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Thighon
02/13/21 1:19:53 PM
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D, I pretty much only did. Never even got biggorons sword, not once and I've beaten the game dozens of times
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Turbam
02/13/21 1:20:54 PM
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D
I usually only use the Biggorons Sword for Dark Link when I replay

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BroodRyu
02/13/21 1:22:45 PM
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Biggoron Sword is the first thing I grab immediately after becoming an adult. I dont use the Master Sword until its required.
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Tyranthraxus
02/13/21 1:23:39 PM
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I mean you still basically use the master sword for the bulk of Adult OOT.

Unless you know the trading sequence ahead of time and go out of your way to do it ASAP you're stuck with the master sword for basically the whole game.

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DarkRoast
02/13/21 1:24:58 PM
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The only downside of Biggoron's Sword is that you can't use a shield with it, but you basically don't need a shield anyway

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Dark_SilverX
02/13/21 1:26:48 PM
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Big delicious Goron sword

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NeonOctopus
02/13/21 1:27:23 PM
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C, I do Ice Cavern and get the Biggoron Sword asap >_> The game is so easy that you don't really need a shield

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Cleo_II
02/13/21 1:36:14 PM
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Always get Biggoron sword as soon as I can and only use the master sword when I have to

Reminds me of when it first came out as a kid and my older brother was playing first. He kept trying to kill Ganon with the Biggoron sword and kept wiping over and over because we didnt understand that he needed to switch lmao
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Shadowplay
02/13/21 1:37:32 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I mean you still basically use the master sword for the bulk of Adult OOT.

Unless you know the trading sequence ahead of time and go out of your way to do it ASAP you're stuck with the master sword for basically the whole game.
It's not really that implausible for someone to stumble upon it by accident. You go to Kakariko Village and many people on their first playthrough would probably talk to everyone. People might think to wake up Talon because of the fact that you already did it once with the chicken and would cause one to wonder about Lon Lon Ranch if they had not already visited it and stumbled upon Epona. One is going to go to the Lost Woods soon after that and might think to use the blue Cucco on that guy since it crows when you enter the area. Really, the limiting factor is if a player going in blind realizes that they can jump the bridge in Gerudo's Valley with Epona, otherwise they might wait to use the Longshot.

But then again, like you said, many would probably not realize they could get it until later on.

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Antifar
02/13/21 1:43:32 PM
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My memory of OOT is using Deku nuts on the final boss. I don't remember what caused me to go down that route, maybe I was out of arrows

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Anteaterking
02/13/21 1:44:48 PM
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I've never really sequence broke when I've played, so I get the Biggoron Sword "when you're supposed to".

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The_Korey
02/13/21 1:45:02 PM
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Maybe for your first playthrough. After that, the only real reason to not get the BGS asap if if you're doing some sort of speed/challenge run.

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Thighon
02/13/21 1:45:23 PM
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The_Korey posted...
Maybe for your first playthrough. After that, the only real reason to not get the BGS asap if if you're doing some sort of speed/challenge run.
Or if you don't know how like me
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Lairen
02/13/21 1:45:30 PM
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Antifar posted...
My memory of OOT is using Deku nuts on the final boss. I don't remember what caused me to go down that route, maybe I was out of arrows

Damn, he died to D's nuts....

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The_Korey
02/13/21 1:54:08 PM
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Thighon posted...
Or if you don't know how like me

Thighon posted...
Never even got biggorons sword, not once and I've beaten the game dozens of times

Ummm, when someone gives you an item telling you to give it to someone else, do you just... not do that?

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Thighon
02/13/21 1:55:16 PM
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Depends
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Perascamin
02/13/21 1:56:48 PM
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3 heart playthrough with biggoron sword only is a ton of fun. Pretty much every adult enemy encounter will 1 or 2 shot you.

Highly recommend. Really made me appreciate OoT that much more

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Shadowplay
02/13/21 1:57:23 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
I've never really sequence broke when I've played, so I get the Biggoron Sword "when you're supposed to".
It's not sequence breaking whatsoever. If the devs didn't expect people to visit some of the areas that they needed to visit to beat the game beforehand, they would have come up with some way to seal them off. Look at how much stuff is sealed off in Majora's Mask.

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The_Korey
02/13/21 1:59:32 PM
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Thighon posted...
Depends

On what? It's such a small game and you know there a big fancy thing you're missing.

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Thighon
02/13/21 2:00:20 PM
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The_Korey posted...
On what? It's such a small game and you know there a big fancy thing you're missing.
I couldn't even tell you what item you're talking about, so I have no idea
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Anteaterking
02/13/21 2:04:28 PM
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Shadowplay posted...
It's not sequence breaking whatsoever. If the devs didn't expect people to visit some of the areas that they needed to visit to beat the game beforehand, they would have come up with some way to seal them off. Look at how much stuff is sealed off in Majora's Mask.

Sorry sequence break is too strong, I just mean that I didn't head to Gerudo Valley until I would do the temple that was there.

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The_Korey
02/13/21 2:08:39 PM
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Thighon posted...
I couldn't even tell you what item you're talking about, so I have no idea

Its a chain. You get something as self-explanatory as a bucket of paint, give it to a guy trying to paint a house, he'll give you a lost dog, so you look for someone missing said dog, and they'll give you a letter to give to-and so on and so on. (I made these up as an exmple, but the real thing really is that simple.)

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Thighon
02/13/21 2:09:39 PM
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The_Korey posted...
Its a chain. You get something as self-explanatory as a bucket of paint, give it to a guy trying to paint a house, he'll give you a lost dog, so you look for someone missing said dog, and they'll give you a letter to give to-and so on and so on. (I made these up as an exmple, but the real thing really is that simple.)
Oh. yeah I probably wouldn't ever do that in Zelda
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The_Korey
02/13/21 2:11:45 PM
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Thighon
02/13/21 2:14:05 PM
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The_Korey posted...
... You have got to be shitting me.
I play Zelda to beat Ganon and save the world. Using anything other than the master sword wouldnt make sense to me. It's why I don't play (or dont like) the ones where Ganon isn't the bad guy
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Shadowplay
02/13/21 4:46:25 PM
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Thighon posted...
It's why I don't play (or dont like) the ones where Ganon isn't the bad guy
Have you played Oracle of Seasons and Ages?

Also, what the fuck, CE? Do you guys just try to play OoT in the worst way possible?

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SSJKirby
02/13/21 5:58:54 PM
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biggoron sword does as much damage as the megaton hammer to ganon, doesn't matter what you use

now if you store damage from the master sword and power crouch stab with either weapon he'll die pretty quick

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nfearurspecimn
02/13/21 5:59:50 PM
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I never get the biggoron sword. I buy the giant's knife over and over again and limit its use to spin attacks and bosses.

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nfearurspecimn
02/13/21 6:06:40 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
The only downside of Biggoron's Sword is that you can't use a shield with it, but you basically don't need a shield anyway
There's a gameshark code for Ocarina of Time N64 to use a shield with the biggoron sword and hold it like it's the master sword. I hacked the code for Majora's Mask. You can use the great fairy sword and FDmask sword and deku sticks. with a shield. Unfortunately, I never got around to hacking it for Ocarina of Time back in the day.

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creativeme
02/13/21 6:19:40 PM
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like many in here i just get the biggoron sword asap.

even the final phase i've used the deku stick and the sword glitch to just use that once. beat the game so many times it's cool to use some of the speedrunning glitches to mess around. never tried to sequence break since i mostly get 100% when i play but would be cool to try to wrong warp and stuff.
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Thighon
02/13/21 6:20:17 PM
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Shadowplay posted...
Have you played Oracle of Seasons and Ages?

Also, what the fuck, CE? Do you guys just try to play OoT in the worst way possible?
I did play the oracle games, yeah. Link just doesnt feel right without the master sword and hyrule shield
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nfearurspecimn
02/13/21 6:25:40 PM
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Thighon posted...
Link just doesnt feel right without the master sword and hyrule shield
Zelda gamers that are like this are the worst

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The_Korey
02/13/21 6:37:57 PM
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Thighon posted...
I play Zelda to beat Ganon and save the world. Using anything other than the master sword wouldnt make sense to me.

I did play the oracle games, yeah. Link just doesnt feel right without the master sword and hyrule shield

Really weird takes. Master Sword/Hylian Shield wasn't even in the first 2 games. The 1 thing that's remained konsistant in every game is the koncept of exploring to find/upgrade better gear.

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The_Korey
02/13/21 8:31:16 PM
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^ I think you meant two-handed. Regardless, the more striking thing is Thigh has beat OoT numerous times and hasn't found the thing. Love it or hate it, you're still failing that kore LoZ koncept if you are incapable of finding it. All 50 Skulltulas or all 10 Big Poes, sure I kan understand, but BGS is like babby's first side quest chain.

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Caroniver
02/13/21 10:08:38 PM
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Thighon posted...
I did play the oracle games, yeah. Link just doesnt feel right without the master sword and hyrule shield
So only 3D games feel right to you? Most of the 2D games feature non-Master Swords and non-Hylian Shields.

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EnvoyOfTheLight
02/13/21 10:11:09 PM
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C. 2ATK 0DEF >>> 1ATK 1DEF

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kirbymuncher
02/14/21 5:26:04 PM
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is it really so weird that people wouldn't get it? it's like some giant wandering around errand-boy quest that clearly has nothing to ddo with the main storyline and is sort of a pain

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Thighon
02/14/21 5:28:53 PM
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The_Korey posted...
Really weird takes. Master Sword/Hylian Shield wasn't even in the first 2 games. The 1 thing that's remained consistent in every game is the concept of exploring to find/upgrade better gear.

I think Zelda 1 and 2 are bad games so it's moot there

Caroniver posted...
So only 3D games feel right to you? Most of the 2D games feature non-Master Swords and non-Hylian Shields.
I love ALttP but that's about the only 2D one I like, I think. Unless link between worlds counts, even then I'm miffed about ganon's status in that

I like these games way more for flavor - i dont really think the gameplay is anything to write home about
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Freddie_Mercury
02/14/21 5:30:34 PM
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Balrog0
02/14/21 5:32:29 PM
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I never was able to get the big sword as a kid. I never could do it fast enough. I am bad at games

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kinetika_
02/14/21 5:43:54 PM
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I get the Biggoron Sword, but I always just Master Sword and Shield. I prefer one handed weapons.

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The_Korey
02/15/21 1:13:01 AM
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kirbymuncher posted...
is it really so weird that people wouldn't get it? it's like some giant wandering around errand-boy quest that clearly has nothing to ddo with the main storyline and is sort of a pain

As opposed to rounding up chickens, selling masks, and planting beans?

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kirbymuncher
02/15/21 1:28:07 AM
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I rounded up the chickens as a kid because it's all confined in one place

I didn't do any of the mask quest and I'm pretty sure I never used any beans though

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