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Veggeta X 02/12/21 10:04:51 PM #101: |
Bloodmoon77 posted...
Sub Goku is legitimately terrible. There's no reason he should sound like that but also his reacts are unbearable to listen to. Hearing him scream a barage of punches is just bad.He sounds like that because, as I said before, it's an Anime trope for main characters to sound like a child no matter how old they get. I'm aware that you might be new to Anime or that DBZ might be the only Anime you've ever watched so this kind of trait is completely foreign to you. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I4NRulez 02/12/21 10:32:17 PM #102: |
Veggeta X posted...
it's an Anime trope for main characters to sound like a child no matter how old they get. Thats not an excuse to keep a bad thing going --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 02/12/21 11:14:26 PM #103: |
I4NRulez posted...
Thats not an excuse to keep a bad thing goingJust because you think it's a bad thing doesn't mean it IS a bad thing LMAO. I dunno about this subject that makes everyone's brain thinks preference no longer exists. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InhumaneRaider 02/12/21 11:18:00 PM #104: |
Bloodmoon77 posted...
Sub Goku is legitimately terrible. There's no reason he should sound like that but also his reacts are unbearable to listen to. Hearing him scream a barage of punches is just bad.atatatatatatataataatatatata --- The war on Christmas begins now, cash the Soros Checks! Communism is soda in water cups. Stop asking me about my OnlyFans, it's a front for weapons trafficking. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 02/12/21 11:27:45 PM #105: |
Veggeta X posted...
because it's relatively new to me.Where have you been? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 02/12/21 11:58:59 PM #106: |
LivingLegend posted...
Who thought it would be a good idea for an elderly woman with a squeaky mouse voice to voice the main character who is a man? She wasn't as old when she started and when she started, Goku was a little kid. She's been voicing him since original Dragonball ... Copied to Clipboard!
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toyota 02/13/21 12:00:35 AM #107: |
Who tf even watches it in japanese when the english version is the definitive version
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Da_fureekusu 02/13/21 12:13:32 AM #109: |
LivingLegend posted...
She was 50 years old when the first episode of Dragon Ball came out.... you notice that no one in japan has these complaints which is what the Japanese version is aimed. Lmao these entitled English speakers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 02/13/21 12:23:36 AM #111: |
toyota posted...
Who tf even watches it in japanese when the english version is the definitive versionDefinitive version for you. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] And by everyone you mean yourself and some other people and not literally everyone or even most for that matter. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] People were shocked at how bad the dub was when it first came out. Still shocked about how horrible it still is at times. It's all about preferences, man. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 02/13/21 1:15:45 AM #113: |
No they would not because Anime main characters sounding like a little boy is normal in Japan. I dunno how many times I have stated this LMAO.
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Illuminoius 02/13/21 1:21:06 AM #114: |
japan has ridiculous celebrity/va worship for some reason
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gamer167 02/13/21 1:42:08 AM #115: |
Sub Gokus VA is literally a 84 year old woman whos voice is supposed to be that of a child.
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SugarFlakes 02/13/21 1:52:14 AM #116: |
His Japanese voice was always off putting to me. I definitely prefer the English one.
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Sephiroth C Ryu 02/13/21 2:12:02 AM #117: |
Eh, to just respond to the topic title...
Its a good enough voice for a kid. Which is what it originally was. Keeping Kid Goku's voice the same throughout him being an adult as well is just kinda dumb. You get a brief area where it MIGHT be okay when it is revealed that he is a Saiyan. But then, no, all the saiyans we see seem to basically have normal adult voices. . --- I am the Hunter of Topics. My post never fails to kill its prey. *pounces* Nyaa! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Da_fureekusu 02/13/21 2:29:18 AM #118: |
LivingLegend posted...
Lol you can say that all you want... But everyones reaction who hears Gokus voice in the Japanese dub is something to the extend of WTF? ... especially if they never heard her voice acting in Dragon Ball. I disagree completely. It never put me off on rurouni kenshin and it never put me off in dbz. O.g dbz nozawa is unbeatable. It only puts people off because they have a preconceived notion of who goku is. you are free to enjoy what you enjoy, but when I hear goku laugh in Japanese thats goku. When I hear goku say I wont forgive you! To freeza in Japanese all I hear is goku. When I hear schemes voice goku all I hear is a westernised attempt at trying to voice an extremely eastern character. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DavidZ2844 02/13/21 3:01:10 AM #119: |
Weebs are really something else lol
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Da_fureekusu 02/13/21 3:04:09 AM #120: |
DavidZ2844 posted...
Weebs are really something else lol no English speakers are just entitled crybabies that think the world revolves around them. I have never seen another group of people legit complain and protest about how another country decides to voice their characters. Like what makes you think the Japanese care about the English version more then something like the Spanish version lmao. if you dont like the Japanese version then just watch the English version. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Da_fureekusu 02/13/21 3:32:11 AM #122: |
LivingLegend posted...
You feel like the English dub is westernized but thats because it is... some dudes irl sound like women, some people have a asexual voice, some women sound like men. I thought jude from tales of xillia was voiced by a women in japan, but he was voiced by a dude. There is no problem because if there was the company would have changed it a long time ago. but at the end of the day, why does it even matter? your only concern should be the english version is the point I'm making. The world doesn't revolve around english speakers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Da_fureekusu 02/13/21 3:34:09 AM #123: |
Also just want to point out, I watched the series with a girl from thailand (she spoke english as a second language) and she did once flinch or get weirded out by Goku's voice. She didn't even know it was a women voicing him till I told her. This just tells me it's really just a "western" world problem. I also showed her the english version and she said his voice was too deep and it doesn't fit, no lie.
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Da_fureekusu 02/13/21 3:59:09 AM #125: |
LivingLegend posted...
There are YouTube videos of Goku redubbed in Japanese with a male voice actor and it sounds a lot better when he has a deeper voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c-u3XnDO_8 Are you talking about this guy, that is a dude that sounds indistinguishable from nozawa? This is the only goku inpersonation or redubbing I've ever seen in japanese. I saw one more done by an ENGLISH SPEAKING FAN lmao. Saying it sounds better to you doesn't matter, because the japanese version isn't aimed at you... or me for that matter. stop proving my point about english speakers thinking the world revolves around them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Da_fureekusu 02/13/21 4:04:24 AM #127: |
LivingLegend posted...
No... This is the video I saw.. You are trolling if you think that sounds better. That video also has like what 5k views from mostly english speakrs as opposed to mine which has over 6 mil. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ermac 02/13/21 4:24:03 AM #128: |
https://youtu.be/Vqr3R6hJ3f0
this is why I like japanese goku, he speaks in an improper way which is more true to his character. Schemmel just sounds like western model hero, and while hes talented and its good, the Japanese voice actor is also incredibly talented and more true to the character --- We are many, you are but one ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Da_fureekusu 02/13/21 4:33:06 AM #129: |
Ermac posted...
https://youtu.be/Vqr3R6hJ3f0 Lol expecting entitled english speaking fans to watch anything remotely about the japanese version is not gonna happen. Also fun fact the reason why his dialect is so unique is because it's influenced by one of the more country bumpkin type dialects in japan, however masako had to tone it down since a lot of native japanese kids would struggle to understand it if she went all the way with it, which is why you get this kinda unique hard to pinpoint accent. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caroniver 02/13/21 4:46:51 AM #130: |
LivingLegend posted...
Saying you fall in love with whatever you watched first is stupid.There's a difference between food and entertainment, but id you watch 200+ episodes of Sean Schemmel voicing Goku, then other voices will sound wrong to you. Similarly, if you watch 200+ episodes of Nozawa voicing Goku, then other voices will sound wrong to you. When someone gets used to something, a massive change will feel wrong, so they'll say whatever they're used to is correct or better. Veggeta X posted... It's an Anime trope to have the main character sound like a child as I stated. Have you only watched DBZ?It really isn't. Though, I guess I can name a lot of anime where the main character sounds like a child. Fullmetal Alchemist, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Madoka Magica, BNA, Yu-Gi-Oh, Gurren Lagann, and Jojo Part 5 are a few of them. Oh wait all of those have main characters who are kids. Maybe that's why. Meanwhile, you look at the few and far between anime series which star actual adults, like Promare and I'm sure at least a few others but it's really late right now, have main characters who sound like adults. There's no "trend" to have a main character who's an adult sound like a kid. It only happened in DBZ because she voiced him while he was a kid in Dragon Ball, and when he grew up in Dragon Ball Z they decided not to change the voice actor. Tyranthraxus posted... Genshin Impact has brought out the weeb sub supremacists for what they really are with the Japanese VAs being roughly equal with the English VAs in popularity completely overlooking that they are both dubs.I have legit seen some people say that "Japanese voice actors are better than any other language" and will seek out foreign dubs of English products. Veggeta X posted... Chris Sabat's Vegeta sounded like he smokes 100 packs a day but dub lovers are able to tolerate that because that's what they started with.Slight difference between a gruff adult having a gruff voice and a young child having that voice. Veggeta X posted... Let's not oppress what we like on others please.Veggeta X posted... You're entitled to your little opinion."Little opinion" sounds pretty insulting, tbh. --- Mixer of Mega Dash Juices, slayer of giant monsters. The elevation increases as the bullet is fired ... Copied to Clipboard!
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im not 13 02/13/21 4:51:21 AM #132: |
The sub voice goes well with vegetas serious voice. I like it
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Veggeta X 02/13/21 9:30:05 AM #133: |
Caroniver posted...
There's no "trend" to have a main character who's an adult sound like a kid. It only happened in DBZ because she voiced him while he was a kid in Dragon Ball, and when he grew up in Dragon Ball Z they decided not to change the voice actor.Luffy, Naruto and Kenshin comes to my mind immediately. All adults who still sounds like a little boy. Sometimes they make villain kids sounds like an adult to make them sound evil(Gaara). It doesn't matter if the character is an adult or not, if the director's vision is to make them sound comedic and geared towards a certain demographic then they will make them sound like however they want. Voice dissonance is a huge trope in Japan and I know it's different from what you're familiar with so it's hard to cope. Stop trying so hard to justify your preference. Caroniver posted... Slight difference between a gruff adult having a gruff voice and a young child having that voice.We're talking about bad voice acting here and I'm fine with you thinking Goku's Japanese voice is bad. You should be okay with me thinking Vegeta's voice is bad. Caroniver posted... "Little opinion" sounds pretty insulting, tbh.I guess you aren't seeing who I'm responding to. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thighon 02/13/21 9:31:29 AM #134: |
I will say that despite my contempt for the sub, ryusei nakao is a top 3 anime villain performance of all time
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NatsuSama 02/13/21 10:19:42 AM #135: |
Veggeta X posted...
That's quite the narrative you're building here. Please show me the part where you think I'm crying.Your dedicated topic to whining --- WAAAH, I CAN'T BEAT THIS GUY WITH HIS TACTICS, I'M GONNA CALL IT SPAM AND CONDEMN HIM FOR USING IT ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 02/13/21 11:05:08 AM #137: |
I prefer the English dub but I dont have any problem with the original Japanese VA. It's perfectly watchable
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SquirtleSkwad 02/13/21 11:06:05 AM #138: |
You're just now hearing about how people don't like the Japanese voice for Goku?
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Veggeta X 02/13/21 11:24:01 AM #139: |
NatsuSama posted...
Your dedicated topic to whiningI'm not whining and you seem very triggered by preferences LMAO no worries you aren't the only one. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 02/13/21 11:24:41 AM #140: |
LivingLegend posted...
A male Japanese voice actor could have done the same thing.it's your world, we just live in it. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 02/13/21 11:25:13 AM #141: |
SquirtleSkwad posted...
You're just now hearing about how people don't like the Japanese voice for Goku?I've heard about it a few years back. This was never a deal breaker back in the old days. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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snoochtonooch 02/13/21 11:35:08 AM #142: |
Dragon ball sucks
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Veggeta X 02/13/21 11:35:54 AM #143: |
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Veggeta X 02/13/21 11:40:03 AM #145: |
I'll just lower myself to your level of shit posting I guess.
The sub is better because it's the original. The dub is trash because LMAO come on they aren't the original and definitely not in AT's vision of the show. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 02/13/21 12:07:07 PM #147: |
It has everything to do with subs vs dubs and the fact is dubs are just trash, bro. Sorry but you're living in bizarro world.
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Tyranthraxus 02/13/21 12:21:05 PM #148: |
Veggeta X posted...
I've heard about it a few years back. This was never a deal breaker back in the old days.I feel like in the "old days" nobody watched the sub. You had to be in the vhs trading scene at the time. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IShall_Run_Amok 02/13/21 12:32:48 PM #149: |
LivingLegend posted...
Again, shes only the VA for adult Goku because the nerd fans would have thrown a fit if she wasnt.I don't think you have a clear grasp of what Dragon Ball's fanbase consisted of in the early 90s. --- I'm here live. Its...I'm not a cat. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caroniver 02/13/21 12:32:57 PM #150: |
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Luffy, Naruto and Kenshin comes to my mind immediatelyLuffy is 14 (child) at the start of the show. Naruto is 11 (child) at the start of the show. I don't know what a Kenshin is, so I can't speak on that one. <a onclick="return show_quoted_message(400, 79291762, 950594405, 'fc5e94c4');" href="/boards/400-current-events/79291762/950594405"><a onclick="return show_quoted_message(400, 79291762, 950594405, 'fc5e94c4');" href="/boards/400-current-events/79291762/950594405"><a onclick="return show_quoted_message(400, 79291762, 950594405, 'fc5e94c4');" href="/boards/400-current-events/79291762/950594405"><a onclick="return show_quoted_message(400, 79291762, 950594405, 'fc5e94c4');" href="/boards/400-current-events/79291762/950594405"><a onclick="return show_quoted_message(400, 79291762, 950594405, 'fc5e94c4');" href="/boards/400-current-events/79291762/950594405">Veggeta X posted... </a></a></a></a></a> I've heard about it a few years back. This was never a deal breaker back in the old days.Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that if you grew up on Dragon Ball Z, you'd catch the dub on Toonami all the time? Seeing the original airing, then a bunch of reruns, then Kai, and all the movies, and just generally having your life completely filled with dubbed Dragon Ball because there wasn't a way to be exposed to the Japanese version without going out of your way to watch the Japanese version? But suddenly, in 2015, a new Dragon Ball show starts and gasp it isn't dubbed. So gasp people watch it undubbed. And gasp they HEAR GOKU'S VOICE. Veggeta X posted... I'll just lower myself to your level of shit posting I guess.Ah, yes. The perfect way to argue. "I disagree with you, so I will now stop making sense and start flinging shit. Don't like it? Looks like you just got owned, playa." --- Mixer of Mega Dash Juices, slayer of giant monsters. The elevation increases as the bullet is fired ... Copied to Clipboard!
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refmon 02/13/21 12:34:20 PM #151: |
TCs only defense is that apparently its a common anime trope.
Okay? That doesn't means it's a good trope. It's dogshit. --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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