Current Events > So, Terry Crews is kinda a big scumbag

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BilalPowell posted...

Or Hitler. Or Genghis Khan

Napoleon's twitter would have been awesome.

pogo_rabid posted...

Scumbag? Misinformed sure, but this is making a mountain out of a molehill.

This. He's accepting, but has a preference over having both a father and mother figure. Nothing to go cancelling someone over.

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hockeybub89 posted...

But those children literally do not have a father and a mother figure. So what, one of the parents has to essentially "transition" to the other role? Or does a third opposite sex parental figure need to be brought in to the fold?

No? Unless the child is raised in a cave by their same-sex parents and never encounters another human being until adulthood, that paternal/maternal love can come from anyone else in their life.

And, again, I posted actual research explicitly showing the benefits of one such link. Are you going to address the actual science on this, or are you going to remain ignorant on the topic while throwing out an endless string of stupid questions because you aren't willing to understand the issue?

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So he's saying gay parents need to be 1 fem and 1 masc?

s0nicfan posted...

No? Unless the child is raised in a cave by their same-sex parents and never encounters another human being until adulthood, that paternal/maternal love can come from anyone else in their life.

Then why does he need to say anything about single and same sex parents? Who is getting malnourished?


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s0nicfan posted...

No? Unless the child is raised in a cave by their same-sex parents and never encounters another human being until adulthood, that paternal/maternal love can come from anyone else in their life.

And, again, I posted actual research explicitly showing the benefits of one such link. Are you going to address the actual science on this, or are you going to remain ignorant on the topic while throwing out an endless string of stupid questions because you aren't willing to understand the issue?

Ah so by signaling out a same sex parentalhood, he REALLY meant that we need to throw the child into the world to be raised

Thank you for doubling down your trolling
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JuanCarlos1 posted...

This. He's accepting, but has a preference over having both a father and mother figure. Nothing to go cancelling someone over.

You mean like when someone "accepts" a gay family member or friend with "Jesus teaches us to love all, even sinners"?

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nothanks1 posted...

The idea behind a strong figure of either stereotype is tht it's a stereotype

Like you expect mom to teach you how to cook and sew
But like it doesn't matter. Single mom I work with took her son dirt biking every second weekend because the father ran the fuck away

That is great. It is worth praise.

Having said that, that mom doesnt know what its like to be male. Likewise, I dont know and will never know what its like to live as a biological female person who menstruates and can be impregnated, for example. I will never be able to fully understand and teach any daughter what its like to have that as a naturally occurring part of her life. Every woman and male ally who says men should not have a say in abortions, because they arent women, should understand this point.

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It's certainly a valid topic of discussion, but I'm not really sure his framing of it is particularly good. Though it should never be used to argue against gay couples from adopting because there should be no doubt that two loving parents will always be better than a foster home or group home.

This is a topic where I doubt most people actually disagree about.

It's good for kids to have emotional and material support from a large amount of people
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emblem boy posted...

This is a topic where I doubt most people actually disagree about.

It's good for kids to have emotional and material support from a large amount of people

Most people would agree I think
But the argument he's making is that same sex couples simply raise an inferior child as both of them are same sex
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nemu posted...

It's certainly a valid topic of discussion, but I'm not really sure his framing of it is particularly good. Though it should never be used to argue against gay couples from adopting because there should be no doubt that two loving parents will always be better than a foster home or group home.

Yes, agreed.

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Darmik posted...

Then why does he need to say anything about single and same sex parents? Who is getting malnourished?

Well given that the rest of the thread is cut off above that post I can't answer why he brought up single sex parents, but in the part we DO see not only does he explicitly say he supports same sex and single parents can successfully raise a child (leaving me to believe half this topic posted without actually clicking on the image), but he then goes on to say that he strives to be a source of paternal love.

People are losing their shit either because they didn't actually bother to read the tweet, or have hated Crews for a while and just want to find an excuse to jump on him over this, or both.

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hockeybub89 posted...

But those children literally do not have a father and a mother figure. So what, one of the parents has to essentially "transition" to the other role? Or does a third opposite sex parental figure need to be brought in to the fold?

hockeybub89 posted...

"Kids, your parents simply aren't good enough. See if you can get someone else in your life."

You guys are being too literal. A father figure, for example can be anyone older that the child can look up to. An older brother, an uncle, grandfather, family friend, teacher, etc. They don't replace the significance of the child's actual parents. You can have more than one father figure or mother figure and it doesn't mean they have to raise you.

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emblem boy posted...

This is a topic where I doubt most people actually disagree about.

It's good for kids to have emotional and material support from a large amount of people

i agree but crews is still wrong. Most studies show that same sex couples do the same as hetero couples and sometimes even better.

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"It takes a village to raise a child" is not the same "a child with two dads will be developmentally malnourished without a real woman in their lives"

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hockeybub89 posted...

"It takes a village to raise a child" is not the same "a child with two dads will be developmentally malnourished without a real woman in their lives"

That's correct. Just like how "receiving both maternal and paternal love is important" is not the same as Crews saying that same sex couples raise broken kids, especially after he explicitly said he believes same sex couples can successfully raise a child.

Are you going to address the research at any point, or are you just going to go full flat earth on this topic?

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s0nicfan posted...

That's correct. Just like how "receiving both maternal and paternal love is important" is not the same as Crews saying that same sex couples raise broken kids, especially after he explicitly said he believes same sex couples can successfully raise a child.

OOH OOOH

'I believe in racial equality but the blacks can't raise a child properly since they need White People to influence them to not break the law'

That's a racial version of it

understand now or are you gonna troll more?
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nothanks1 posted...

OOH OOOH

'I believe in racial equality but the blacks can't raise a child properly since they need White People to influence them to not break the law'

That's a racial version of it

understand now or are you gonna troll more?

Rofl. Oh yes, let's completely change what someone said. You surely have a point now!

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I'm so offended rn

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Not the most responsibly-worded response, but I get where he's coming from and still think he's a pretty admirable person overall. He could stand to be less narrow-minded on this particular subject.

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My god what a thread lmao

s0nicfan posted...

No? Unless the child is raised in a cave by their same-sex parents and never encounters another human being until adulthood, that paternal/maternal love can come from anyone else in their life.

And, again, I posted actual research explicitly showing the benefits of one such link. Are you going to address the actual science on this, or are you going to remain ignorant on the topic while throwing out an endless string of stupid questions because you aren't willing to understand the issue?

Not everyone has non-familial father/mother figures in their lives so it's still "two moms can only raise a proper child if they get an important man involved"

I've seen research that says children raised by same-sex couples do better in school. Does that scientifically prove straight couples raise dumber children?

Maybe someone needs to define what maternal and paternal love even means exactly. Do that many kids really have teachers and coaches they would consider paternal figures? I thought parents were supposed to parent their own kids?

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I don't really see how this makes him a scumbag. You know it is possible to simply disagree with someone

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eston posted...

I don't really see how this makes him a scumbag. You know it is possible to simply disagree with someone

If Terry Crews tweets "Doom 2016 is better than Eternal", then that would be a simple disagreement.

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There was less outrage over Bruce getting caught for drunk driving recently, our priorities on what a celebrity does that causes outrage is quite peculiar to me

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hockeybub89 posted...

If Terry Crews tweets "Doom 2016 is better than Eternal", then that would be a simple disagreement.

Not really sure where you were going with that one

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I don't necessarily agree with him 100% but calling him a scumbag is a bit heavy handed.

I do think it's kind if important for people to have both positive male and female role models in their life. But I don't think it necessarily has to be one of their parents either. Which I think is what he's sort of gist of what he's getting at.

Then again it seems like Terry Cruz intentionally stirs shit on social media for reactions like this. So mission accomplished?

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JustMyOpinion posted...

Kid, shut the fuck up. He's scum.

I don't remember you but my tag for you is spot on, lol

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VipaGTS posted...

He talked long enough to become the villain.

He should've stopped as a hero.

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nothanks1 posted...

It's great to see both sides just break down
'I was sexually assaulted as a man'
YOU TELL YOUR STORY - conservatives
'But as a black man I can't just like, get physically aggressive with the dude since you know the stereotypes' -
DA FUCK?! - conservatives

'I feel strongly about equality and support feminism'
FUCK YEAH! - liberals
'but I also believe a child needs both a mother and father'
DA FUCK?! - liberals

This lol

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Is what he said actually that weird? Even a person raised by Lesbians may benefit from having a male role model.

Uh oh he said something we don't like we should protest

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Having a viewpoint that you need a standardized parenthood as a standard parent is literally the most obvious thing ever. It doesn't make a person a scumbag lmfao

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Holy shit theres some hot garbage being posted in this thread.

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JustMyOpinion posted...

Nice shitpost, kid.

Oh no, a random neckbeard troll on gamefaqs called me a kid. How will my self esteem ever recover?!

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emblem boy posted...

This is a topic where I doubt most people actually disagree about.

It's good for kids to have emotional and material support from a large amount of people

Yeah. I feel like it's one of those things where all things being equal, kids are going to do better when exposed to multiple viewpoints and as such it's easiest to have parents of different genders than include aunts/uncles/teachers/etc.
But that's the issue, nothing is ever equal like that. As in, two dads who are great parents are going to do a ton better raising kids than two terrible straight parents. And that's where the issue is: because the study sonicfan posted is probably correct, but then again the kinds of couples who are gay are typically going to have a harder time getting a kid than straight couples, and considering they tend to have the ability to pick when they have kids compared to straight couples, they're going to be able to support their children a lot better on average

So it just comes off as being scummy because Terry Crews is coming at it as a rich dude who hangs out with other rich people who are all capable of providing for their children the best experiences money can buy, so at that point he is going to come down on same-sex relationships since it's the biggest differentiator

Atralis posted...

Is what he said actually that weird? Even a person raised by Lesbians may benefit from having a male role model.

Honestly, all he said is that a child benefits from having both male and female role models. He even said they didn't have to be parents.

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but you guys love him when he goes against black people though.......

Can't he just be really stupid

i want to believe

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CloudThunder posted...

but you guys love him when he goes against black people though.......

What? No.
That's Morgan Freeman.

SMH damn Terry. Just couldn't keep his mouth shut

Oh no, he has an opinion. Lets hate him.

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jon1012 posted...

Oh no, he has an opinion. Lets hate him.

still a stupid take

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Solid Snake07 posted...

I don't necessarily agree with him 100% but calling him a scumbag is a bit heavy handed.

Terry Crews is scum though.

He rightfully came out with his being a victim of sexual assault and wanted everyone to believe him. People mocked him but Gabrielle Union came out as one of his earliest and biggest supporters.

Then she came out about the abuse she had suffered on the show they were both on and Terry's immediate response was to claim his experience wasn't like that on the show, not support her at all, then said some bullshit about how the only woman he cares about/supports is his wife.

His is scum. He's a piece of shit. He hid behind his nice guy faade so we all thought he really was this nice guy. But he's a two-faced piece of shit who will turn on anyone so long as he's career isn't in jeopardy.

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That's fifty cents worth of shitpost on my computer screen

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BeyondWalls posted...

Honestly, all he said is that a child benefits from having both male and female role models. He even said they didn't have to be parents.

Lol for witch hunts like those of a lot of the angry people in the topic, nuances almost never matter. A lot of black and white claims get thrown around in these types of topics

Also is it really crazy for a guy with well adjusted kids to think the way he does? Not really, pretty much everybody revolves around the same mindset development, even the haters in this topic. When you find success doing one thing, you're naturally going to gravitate towards thinking that your way is correct. It doesn't make the person a bad person lol.

He's also been involved in a lot of charities and often had proceeds from various shows he's been in go to people in need. That alone is probably more virtue than anybody in this topic, though I guess it's easy to claim he's hiding behind his charities, which he rarely references himself, so

But no, just reply to a bunch of comments suggesting that there might be more to this as a "stupid take" with 0 reason or arguments given, and say it long enough and maybe people will believe it regardless of facts

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