Current Events > Hospital suggest staff say 'birthing parents' instead of 'mothers'

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Beveren_Rabbit
02/09/21 4:24:34 PM
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to avoid risk of offending transgender people

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9241217/Hospital-tells-midwives-use-terms-like-birthing-parents-human-milk.html

A hospital has told staff to use terms like 'birthing parents' and 'human milk' rather than just referring to 'mothers' and 'breast milk' so transgender people are not offended.

Brighton and Sussex University Hospitals NHS Trust unveiled a blizzard of 'gender inclusive' phrases in a drive to stamp out 'mainstream transphobia'.

The Trust is the first in the country to formally implement such a radical overhaul for its maternity services department - which will now be known as 'perinatal services'.

Other changes include replacing the use of the word 'woman' with the phrase 'woman or person', and the term 'father' with 'parent', 'co-parent' or 'second biological parent', depending on the circumstances.

The new terms will be used for documents, protocols and Trust-wide communication.

They will also be used when discussing pregnancy, birth and parenting at a population level - such as at a meeting.

The Trust stressed that when interacting with a patient in a one-on-one scenario, midwives should continue referring to their gender.

A policy document released this week, said staff should not stop using the word 'woman' or other terms describing motherhood but they should consciously start adding in the word 'people' and other more inclusive language.

It said: 'Gender identity can be a source of oppression and health inequality. We are consciously using the words 'women' and 'people' together to make it clear that we are committed to working on addressing health inequalities for all those who use our services.

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Heavy_D_Forever
02/09/21 4:26:07 PM
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That's really dumb

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Kavatar
02/09/21 4:26:43 PM
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Ok

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specialkid8
02/09/21 4:27:03 PM
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h u m a n m i l k

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Were_Wyrm
02/09/21 4:28:42 PM
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I fail to see why they can't still use breast milk, its not like transgender people have udders instead of breasts.

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Heartomaton
02/09/21 4:29:35 PM
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Heavy_D_Forever posted...
That's really dumb


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UnfairRepresent
02/09/21 4:29:51 PM
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I don't get the breast milk/human milk one.

Where are you getting human milk outside of breas-..... OH MY GOD

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E32005
02/09/21 4:30:21 PM
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are trans people REALLY upset though? or is this just hyper-preventism

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The Trent
02/09/21 4:30:28 PM
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nice try LIBERALS but i already had my kids and my wife was called MOTHER the whole time!

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Garioshi
02/09/21 4:30:34 PM
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I do not care

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Orchestrion
02/09/21 4:31:03 PM
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TheBlueMonk_
02/09/21 4:31:10 PM
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sounds fine to me.

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The Trent
02/09/21 4:32:07 PM
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can we change this to "human procreators" because not both parents are actually involved in the physical birthing process and i feel like it could alienate the nonbirthing parent

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Lairen
02/09/21 4:32:15 PM
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Id act offended that they called me a birthing parent and raise hell.

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ThunderTrain
02/09/21 4:33:02 PM
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Sounds like another thing dumb people will get mad about

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Esrac
02/09/21 4:33:22 PM
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That is a painfully cringey idea.
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Collat
02/09/21 4:34:03 PM
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Esrac posted...
That is a painfully cringey idea.
The ultimate Karen move.
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Dreepapult
02/09/21 4:34:11 PM
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Human breast secretions from the parental unit possessing the human breast

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nemu
02/09/21 4:34:21 PM
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This broad, nonsensical shit is so stupid. We can be sensitive to the needs of the minority both without making up stupid non-issues and making broad, sweeping changes irrelevant to 95%+ of people who will be in that particular situation.
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NoxObscuras
02/09/21 4:35:34 PM
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Human Milk sounds creepy because it makes it sound like the milk is coming from something other than breasts...

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ViewtifulGrave
02/09/21 4:35:35 PM
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He may have been your father, but he wasnt your daddy.

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DeadBankerDream
02/09/21 4:37:46 PM
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Do people actually read the dailymail or do they just cruise it for shitty sources for shitty topics?
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hockeybub89
02/09/21 4:42:14 PM
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Do they get a lots of trans men giving birth and feeding babies milk from their eyes in these hospitals?

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02/09/21 4:42:31 PM
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Machete
02/09/21 4:42:41 PM
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Daily____ is gonna be a bunch of bollocks regardless of what fills in the blank
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SquirtleSkwad
02/09/21 4:42:46 PM
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lmfao

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FlameTurtle
02/09/21 4:47:53 PM
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Rad

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KiwiTerraRizing
02/09/21 4:51:47 PM
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Slight change in language, not a big deal.

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DarkProto05
02/09/21 4:53:22 PM
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If you gave birth you are still the child's mother no matter what you personally identify as. Doesn't make sense to me.

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hockeybub89
02/09/21 5:02:53 PM
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DarkProto05 posted...
If you gave birth you are still the child's mother no matter what you personally identify as. Doesn't make sense to me.
If two men have a baby through a surrogate, then the kid has two parents and neither is a mother. A biological mother and a parent have never been 100% the same thing.

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jon1012
02/09/21 5:19:34 PM
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A little weird but whatev

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Orchestrion
02/09/21 5:21:50 PM
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CalypsoDoom posted...
ce literally cannot imagine a reality where we don't treat trans people like garbage


Its all some of these people have. There are users who have been posting bigoted garbage on here for almost 10 years.

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The Trent
02/09/21 5:22:36 PM
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mmm yeah let's get righteous

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Heavy_D_Forever
02/09/21 5:22:54 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
If two men have a baby through a surrogate, then the kid has two parents and neither is a mother. A biological mother and a parent have never been 100% the same thing.
I mean the kid still has a mother, but it's just being raised by two people who aren't the mother.

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Kolibri X
02/09/21 5:23:26 PM
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I don't want to believe this, but clown world has no brakes.

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ssk9716757
02/09/21 5:23:33 PM
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literally nothing wrong with this and its actually more accurate which is what you want in healthcare lol

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The Trent
02/09/21 5:26:15 PM
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i pity the baby that tried to chestfeed from me, that's a lotta hair and no milk

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Tenlaar
02/09/21 5:26:44 PM
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Trans men exist and they deserve respect even when they get pregnant, there is nothing wrong with avoiding unnecessary gendered language.
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ssk9716757
02/09/21 5:28:59 PM
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i like that people are getting offended over this like its a law for everyone when this just applies to staff at this one hospital. like chill out guys theyre doctors and nurses they already learn a bunch of complicated shit in school they can handle this lmao

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Atralis
02/09/21 5:29:13 PM
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There have to be less than a hundred people this dilemma would even apply to in the entire history of the human race.
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nemu
02/09/21 5:29:23 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
Trans men exist and they deserve respect even when they get pregnant, there is nothing wrong with avoiding unnecessary gendered language.
If you're actually serious, one can use appropriate terminology on a case by case basis dependent on the individual. There is no particular reason to expect broad terminology changes based on a few fringe cases. Recognition of a trans individual does not require sweeping changes.
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Tenlaar
02/09/21 5:31:50 PM
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nemu posted...
If you're actually serious, one can use appropriate terminology on a case by case basis dependent on the individual. There is no particular reason to expect broad terminology changes based on a few fringe cases. Recognition of a trans individual does not require sweeping changes.
You would rather they wait until after they misgender somebody than just remove the gendered language from the beginning. Why? Saying birthing parent rather than mother changes absolutely nothing about the process or anything other than word usage.
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ssk9716757
02/09/21 5:32:29 PM
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Atralis posted...
There have to be less than a hundred people this dilemma would even apply to in the entire history of the human race.

and as we all know healthcare is about ignoring stuff that only affects a few people

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The Trent
02/09/21 5:33:18 PM
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can we just pause for a second to get back to talking about how hairy my nipple area is like that shit is NOT made for nursing dude

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