Current Events > What would bother you more? Your friend being into lolis or into incest?

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If they're into lolis, they primarily watch loli anime, have loli dakimakuras, and have a shrine to their favorite loli.

If they're into incest, they watch a lot of incest themed porn and have admitted they want to sleep with one of their family members.

probably incest because the way you described it makes it start to cross into involving real world people. loli is gross and i dont like it but i would probably just think they were weird

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They're both terrible and would cause me to not be friends with that person.

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Children cannot consent, but relatives can after a certain age. As gross as it is if both parties can consent it shouldn't be illegal.
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Id be bothered if they didnt watch loli incest masterpieces like Eromanga-sensei.

Eab1990 posted...

Posts like this is why CE is on a watchlist

ultimate reaver posted...

probably incest because the way you described it makes it start to cross into involving real world people. loli is gross and i dont like it but i would probably just think they were weird

This, it's much weirder once attraction to real people is brought in.
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MachineJaipur posted...

Posts like this is why CE is on a watchlist

He's a notorious lolicon. Willing to bet the one and only reason he even bothered clicking on this topic is because it has the word loli in it. He's sick, and most likely beyond help.

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would break my heart if either but the loli one would crush me.

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None of my business so it wouldnt bother me

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Heartomaton posted...

He's a notorious lolicon. Willing to bet the one and only reason he even bothered clicking on this topic is because it has the word loli in it. He's sick, and most likely beyond help.

You were here before me, so what does that say about you?

SubtletyRefuge posted...

TC you've been unnaturally obsessed with loli, incest, and bestial shit lately.

...have I made a bestial themed topic recently?

Last one I remember making was months ago and pretty sure it was in the vein of this topic, where which would bother you more

Eab1990 posted...

You were here before me, so what does that say about you?

That I spend a lot of time on CE and I can't resist the opportunity to point out that your type of sexual deviancy is disgusting.

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MachineJaipur posted...

If they're into lolis, they primarily watch loli anime, have loli dakimakuras, and have a shrine to their favorite loli.

That kind of behavior is a bit beyond the pale. I'd be worried about anyone with a literal shrine to a fictional character, but not as worried if it were a real person.

MachineJaipur posted...

If they're into incest, they watch a lot of incest themed porn and have admitted they want to sleep with one of their family members.

My disgust would depend on which relative and whether it seemed obsessive or abusive.

Lolis brings up way more red flags because of the implication of the attraction.

Though the incest thing seems to be more of a family matter. Still gross but less concerning.

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I don't mind either but based on your op, the incest one is starting to bring that into real life so I would be very concerned if their hot cousin came over. Mostly I'm just surprised I have friends. I am against friendship.

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My friends are all degenerates idgaf

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When I clicked on the topic I was going to say loli is worse, but with the specific circumstances you gave the incest is worse.

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Eab1990 posted...

Id be bothered if they didnt watch loli incest masterpieces like Eromanga-sensei.

Does it have a dub?
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Dont think so.

That's disappointing. You had me intrigued, but I don't watch subbed content.
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CE bothered more by lolis

Kind of surprising

What is the name of the CEman who defended incest the other day? I was gonna tag him but I forgot his name.

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skermac posted...

None of my business so it wouldnt bother me

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Loli has alarming implications.

I've had people tell me loli attraction is necessary because it gives pedophiles something to be aroused over, which is BS. It's still going to get them horny over underraged girls, and they'll eventually just move onto actual CP once cartoons don't do it for them anymore.

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Hayame Zero posted...

Loli has alarming implications.

I've had people tell me loli attraction is necessary because it gives pedophiles something to be aroused over, which is BS. It's still going to get them horny over underraged girls, and they'll eventually just move onto actual CP once cartoons don't do it for them anymore.

To use a drug metaphor:
I guess the idea is that if we let a lesser drug be legal, then it may stop someone from going to illegal drugs.

Unless you consider something like weed to be a gateway drug.

As gross as incest is, simulated incest is a prominent porn category that's targeted at people on pretty much every major porn site. It's a darker side of human sexuality that porn producers are actively working to exploit, and while it's creepy and weird, the sheer volume of it and the focus on it has rendered it socially acceptable to a degree. Not a fan, I recently saw a Boston Legal episode that ended with incest and it was really unpleasant and disturbing, but ultimately the subject has the pull that it does on porn sites, and that's kind of the porn landscape we're in at the moment. If my friend was into it, I'd be skeeved out but I would understand the sheer volume of gross incest shit that probably informed his "thing".

Lolicons sexualise the look and behavior of kids. They fawn over how "cute" the behavior is, and they get off to that innocent childlike behavior and associated speech patterns while those characters are getting fucked, mostly by frustrated middle aged men or NEETs in whatever media it's occurring in. It's a fucking horror show, and for this to be normalised alongside MAPs and the like is a fucking revolting prospect. If my friend were into lolicon shit, I'd probably consider him an at-risk potential pedophile.

I don't like making that distinction because they're both pretty disturbing, but the sexual depiction of children skeeves me out more on a fundamental human level than the ever-normalized depiction of simulated incest. Kinda fucked up that furries get the bad wrap they do for the most extreme members of their community, and yet your average 4chan fuckface has less of a problem with lolicon as a whole. Shit's fucked up dude.

Edit: I'm not gonna take the OP into account, considering the ever-present meme of "turning the sound off to turn incest porn into normal porn" and the rise of MAPs piggybacking off of identity politics to normalise their pedophilia. I feel like there's a clear slant to push incest shit over loli shit in the OP, and while both are disgusting, I need to point out the sexualisation of young children in lolicon shit as the more abhorrent practice.

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Neither would bother me, so long as I don't have to be involved in any way. Both are weird, sure, but it's their life lol.

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MachineJaipur posted...

loli dakimakuras

Disgusting, but still the least terrible of the two
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MrMallard posted...

Kinda f***ed up that furries get the bad wrap they do for the most extreme members of their community, and yet your average 4chan f***face has less of a problem with lolicon as a whole.

because 4Chan normalized loli shit a long time ago while furry shit got a bad rap from 4Chan.

Anything that is "internet culture" has heavily been influenced or informed by 4Chan

I guarantee nobody in this thread can give a reason that incest is morally wrong.

@Lost_All_Senses

I saw that and was going to quote that lol.

MachineJaipur posted...

@Lost_All_Senses

I saw that and was going to quote that lol.

Sometimes I realize I don't feel like getting into it after posting. I realize Im gonna just be annoyed when I get into a argument about what I posted lol.

But Im interested in your take.

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MrMallard posted...

As gross as incest is, simulated incest is a prominent porn category that's targeted at people on pretty much every major porn site. It's a darker side of human sexuality that porn producers are actively working to exploit, and while it's creepy and weird, the sheer volume of it and the focus on it has rendered it socially acceptable to a degree. Not a fan, I recently saw a Boston Legal episode that ended with incest and it was really unpleasant and disturbing, but ultimately the subject has the pull that it does on porn sites, and that's kind of the porn landscape we're in at the moment. If my friend was into it, I'd be skeeved out but I would understand the sheer volume of gross incest shit that probably informed his "thing".

Lolicons sexualise the look and behavior of kids. They fawn over how "cute" the behavior is, and they get off to that innocent childlike behavior and associated speech patterns while those characters are getting fucked, mostly by frustrated middle aged men or NEETs in whatever media it's occurring in. It's a fucking horror show, and for this to be normalised alongside MAPs and the like is a fucking revolting prospect. If my friend were into lolicon shit, I'd probably consider him an at-risk potential pedophile.

I don't like making that distinction because they're both pretty disturbing, but the sexual depiction of children skeeves me out more on a fundamental human level than the ever-normalized depiction of simulated incest. Kinda fucked up that furries get the bad wrap they do for the most extreme members of their community, and yet your average 4chan fuckface has less of a problem with lolicon as a whole. Shit's fucked up dude.

Edit: I'm not gonna take the OP into account, considering the ever-present meme of "turning the sound off to turn incest porn into normal porn" and the rise of MAPs piggybacking off of identity politics to normalise their pedophilia. I feel like there's a clear slant to push incest shit over loli shit in the OP, and while both are disgusting, I need to point out the sexualisation of young children in lolicon shit as the more abhorrent practice.

Well said.

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I'm a writer. It's pretty much mandatory that I be a fan of incest.

Lolicon squicks me out. I can understand liking a youthful aesthetic, and some of those pics might even appeal to me in that regard, but it really crosses a line when you draw characters to have child limbs and proportions. Like, in no uncertain terms, that is a child the viewer is attracted to.

On the other hand, things like these aren't problematic because society says "Not My Fetish." It's wrong to have sexual relations with a child because they're not mentally developed enough to engage in such activity. And incest is only truly wrong if it's coerced or leads to childbirth with life-hindering health issues.

On the whole, loli is worse. But what another person faps to isn't really my business so long as they're not hurting anyone. (If you look at real child porn, you're hurting someone.)

Lost_All_Senses posted...

Sometimes I realize I don't feel like getting into it after posting. I realize Im gonna just be annoyed when I get into a argument about what I posted lol.

But Im interested in your take.

That if you were going to use that metaphor, you'd drive a lot more people to illegal drugs outright

in the same vein, as disgusting loli stuff can be, if you banned loli stuff, you'd drive a lot of people straight to CP.

At least if you have a community of what people would consider at-risk pedophiles you can get them help before they start outright exploiting children.

Obviously it isn't ideal, because ideally people wouldn't ever be sexually attracted to children, but I'd rather give people nerf guns than real guns

MachineJaipur posted...

That if you were going to use that metaphor, you'd drive a lot more people to illegal drugs outright

in the same vein, as disgusting loli stuff can be, if you banned loli stuff, you'd drive a lot of people straight to CP.

At least if you have a community of what people would consider at-risk pedophiles you can get them help before they start outright exploiting children.

Obviously it isn't ideal, because ideally people wouldn't ever be sexually attracted to children, but I'd rather give people nerf guns than real guns

Now I feel like I forgot what I posted. I thought I was just talking about how alcohol is a worse influence than weed. I think you looked to far into it. I'm just not good at staying on topic.

But for full disclosure, I picked Loli's in the poll.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Now I feel like I forgot what I posted.

That alcohol is the true gateway drug

MachineJaipur posted...

That alcohol is the true gateway drug

But you seen it as a metaphor when I was being literal. Like I said, I just can't stay on topic. I read a post and forget the base of the conversation and just respond to the response. Im firever working on it and take responsibility for the confusion. My thing is just that weed takes all the heat that alcohol should be questioned for as well. But it's because alcohol is too much part of our culture. It gets a pass other drugs don't. Even though we have all the insight and statistics in the world to show otherwise.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

But you seen it as a metaphor when I was being literal.

I mean you're not exactly wrong, tbh. But there's a whole other topic of reasons as to why that's the case