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Garioshi 02/08/21 9:13:58 AM #1:	..... Yes No ..... - Results (42 votes) Yes 90.48% (38 votes) 38 No 9.52% (4 votes) 4 Take this song, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD4r8ufspg0 The lyrics are entirely nonsensical, but the vocals definitely add to the song in a way that any other instrument simply wouldn't imo --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:950410438] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote> ..... Yes No Vote View Results ..... - Results (42 votes) Yes 90.48% (38 votes) 38 No 9.52% (4 votes) 4 Show Voting Form Take this song, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD4r8ufspg0 The lyrics are entirely nonsensical, but the vocals definitely add to the song in a way that any other instrument simply wouldn't imo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AldousIsDead 02/08/21 9:20:08 AM #2:	I'd say no categorically, but then I recall Van Canto exist. --- In simplicity, utility. Through utility, simplicity. <cite>AldousIsDead posted [p:950410555] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>I'd say no categorically, but then I recall Van Canto exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 02/08/21 9:22:30 AM #3:	Yeah, you can consider it a form of scat singing or sampling if you're using words and just triggering them on the keyboard at different pitches Lyrics don't seem that nonsensical though >_> --- https://imgur.com/e6aBSof - Pus_N_Pecans original! https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - Error1335 original! <cite>RedJackson posted [p:950410616] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, you can consider it a form of scat singing or sampling if you're using words and just triggering them on the keyboard at different pitches Lyrics don't seem that nonsensical though >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R1masher 02/08/21 9:23:04 AM #4:	The topic title makes me want to watch that movie with the cup song --- R1R1R1R1R1R1 <cite>R1masher posted [p:950410631] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>The topic title makes me want to watch that movie with the cup song </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thompson 02/08/21 9:25:20 AM #5:	I suppose you've not heard Adriano Celentano's Prisencolinensinainciusol? --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. <cite>Thompson posted [p:950410685] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>I suppose you've not heard Adriano Celentano's Prisencolinensinainciusol? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 02/08/21 9:53:55 AM #6:	RedJackson posted... Lyrics don't seem that nonsensical though >_> If you look them up, they definitely are. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:950411422] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>RedJackson posted... </cite> <quote>Lyrics don't seem that nonsensical though >_></quote>If you look them up, they definitely are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 02/08/21 9:55:07 AM #7:	That's pretty much Beck's whole career --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:950411462] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>That's pretty much Beck's whole career </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MagnusX 02/08/21 9:57:56 AM #8:	The voice is an instrument, period. <cite>MagnusX posted [p:950411552] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>The voice is an instrument, period. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 02/08/21 10:03:33 AM #9:	MagnusX posted... The voice is an instrument, period. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:950411685] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>MagnusX posted... </cite> <quote>The voice is an instrument, period.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 02/08/21 10:04:44 AM #10:	Garioshi posted... If you look them up, they definitely are. Don't worry about the future It's all right Because a better picture we can't find Just like our dreams They've got to be free *So, Anyway, Let's move on* *We can be as fellows* *It's not to place to follow* Lol I get what you mean now >_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u5x9pdInTU --- https://imgur.com/e6aBSof - Pus_N_Pecans original! https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - Error1335 original! <cite>RedJackson posted [p:950411718] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>Garioshi posted... </cite> <quote>If you look them up, they definitely are.</quote> Don't worry about the future It's all right Because a better picture we can't find Just like our dreams They've got to be free So, Anyway, Let's move on We can be as fellows It's not to place to follow Lol I get what you mean now >_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u5x9pdInTU </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 02/08/21 10:08:26 AM #11:	Yeah, a song can have stupid lyrics but strong vocals. Doesn't mean I'll enjoy it though I have a hard time listening to many songs with nonsensical lyrics. --- FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving/Crafting/RC https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:950411828] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, a song can have stupid lyrics but strong vocals. Doesn't mean I'll enjoy it though I have a hard time listening to many songs with nonsensical lyrics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 02/08/21 11:35:50 AM #12:	MagnusX posted... The voice is an instrument, period. Understandable --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:950414434] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>MagnusX posted... </cite> <quote>The voice is an instrument, period.</quote>Understandable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bananana 02/08/21 11:37:18 AM #13:	the voice is literally not an instrument ever but it can be used in the same way as instruments ie for musical interest rather than just saying words, yeah --- http://error1355.com/ce/Bananana.html <cite>Bananana posted [p:950414480] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>the voice is literally not an instrument ever but it can be used in the same way as instruments ie for musical interest rather than just saying words, yeah </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EffectAndCause 02/08/21 11:38:29 AM #14:	My favorite part of Freak On A Leash is the instrumentation of the DA BOOM DA DA OOM DOM DA EBA part. --- https://imgur.com/wMshiEN <cite>EffectAndCause posted [p:950414523] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>My favorite part of Freak On A Leash is the instrumentation of the DA BOOM DA DA OOM DOM DA EBA part.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Try_Another___ 02/08/21 11:40:19 AM #15:	My Bloody Valentine is proof that vocals can be used like an instrument https://youtu.be/OZVSnjG31PM --- zero earnings <cite>Try_Another___ posted [p:950414595] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>My Bloody Valentine is proof that vocals can be used like an instrument https://youtu.be/OZVSnjG31PM </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 02/08/21 11:43:45 AM #16:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z-rhM-dcO8 You tell me. Also just Bjork running away from her cat-husband to go on a bender. Normal Bjork stuff. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:950414732] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z-rhM-dcO8 You tell me. Also just Bjork running away from her cat-husband to go on a bender. Normal Bjork stuff. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Naysaspace 02/08/21 11:48:08 AM #17:	vocals are always an instrument. they're crucial to the sound of a song. instrumental songs (that aren't edm) often sound bland or naked. even then, EDM goes really heavy on vocal samples these days. --- (edited 1/18/2021 6:36:37 AM) <cite>Naysaspace posted [p:950414897] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>vocals are always an instrument. they're crucial to the sound of a song. instrumental songs (that aren't edm) often sound bland or naked. even then, EDM goes really heavy on vocal samples these days. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 02/08/21 11:49:46 AM #18:	A voice is an instrument, regardless of how pretentous that sounds, yes --- If the universe is so big why wont it fight me? <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:950414950] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>A voice is an instrument, regardless of how pretentous that sounds, yes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MagnusX 02/08/21 1:16:45 PM #19:	Bananana posted... the voice is literally not an instrument ever Fucking lol. You literally couldn't be any more wrong. Naysaspace posted... they're crucial to the sound of a song That is absolutely a personal opinion. Many of my favourite tracks are fully instrumental. <cite>MagnusX posted [p:950417883] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>Bananana posted... </cite> <quote>the voice is literally not an instrument ever</quote>Fucking lol. You literally couldn't be any more wrong. Naysaspace posted... </cite> <quote>they're crucial to the sound of a song</quote>That is absolutely a personal opinion. Many of my favourite tracks are fully instrumental. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 02/08/21 1:19:27 PM #20:	Whenever I'm using music for background ehile my.mind is elsewhere, vocals are just part of the instrumental. --- Name checks out "Try to talk and they ain't listening, but they'll point it out when you get ignorant" - Dreezy <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:950417964] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>Whenever I'm using music for background ehile my.mind is elsewhere, vocals are just part of the instrumental. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bananana 02/08/21 1:51:10 PM #21:	MagnusX posted... Fucking lol. You literally couldn't be any more wrong. That is absolutely a personal opinion. Many of my favourite tracks are fully instrumental. dawg its literally the definition of the word i dont deny any of the arguments saying that the voice can be used for color, texture, melodies, solos, etc. like any instrument can, but by definition it is not an instrument --- http://error1355.com/ce/Bananana.html <cite>Bananana posted [p:950419032] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>MagnusX posted... </cite> <quote>Fucking lol. You literally couldn't be any more wrong. That is absolutely a personal opinion. Many of my favourite tracks are fully instrumental.</quote>dawg its literally the definition of the word i dont deny any of the arguments saying that the voice can be used for color, texture, melodies, solos, etc. like any instrument can, but by definition it is not an instrument </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MegaTech 02/08/21 1:59:04 PM #22:	Most def. I like many tracks that use vocal samples for melody. Works pretty well. --- That one bloke with a haggard smirk, whereabouts unknown, puttin in that cloak and dagger work. https://imgur.com/c8xCRi7 - CoolbeansAvi <cite>MegaTech posted [p:950419334] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>Most def. I like many tracks that use vocal samples for melody. Works pretty well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SquirtleSkwad 02/08/21 2:00:32 PM #23:	Literally anyone can wail away in a key. It's not impressive. --- "If you cannot explain it simply, you do not understand it well enough."-Albert Einstein <cite>SquirtleSkwad posted [p:950419379] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>Literally anyone can wail away in a key. It's not impressive. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
philsov 02/08/21 2:00:46 PM #24:	Songs sung in languages I have no comprehension of might as well be gibberish. And foreign songs are just as valid/entertaining as songs with words I do understand that also make sense, and also songs with words that actually form sentences There's way more to vocals than intelligible words. --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. <cite>philsov posted [p:950419386] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>Songs sung in languages I have no comprehension of might as well be gibberish. And foreign songs are just as valid/entertaining as songs with words I do understand that also make sense, and also songs with words that actually form sentences There's way more to vocals than intelligible words.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MagnusX 02/08/21 2:10:41 PM #25:	Bananana posted... dawg its literally the definition of the word Please provide a sourced definition of a musical instrument that innately excludes the human voice, because: "1: a device used to produce music also : a singing voice" (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/instrument) https://www.quora.com/Is-the-voice-an-instrument https://www.learntoplaymusic.com/blog/why-the-human-voice-can-be-considered-the-ultimate-melodic-instrument/ Do you consider acapella or unaccompanied choirs not music? <cite>MagnusX posted [p:950419739] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>Bananana posted... </cite> <quote>dawg its literally the definition of the word</quote>Please provide a sourced definition of a musical instrument that innately excludes the human voice, because: "1: a device used to produce music also : a singing voice" (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/instrument) https://www.quora.com/Is-the-voice-an-instrument https://www.learntoplaymusic.com/blog/why-the-human-voice-can-be-considered-the-ultimate-melodic-instrument/ Do you consider acapella or unaccompanied choirs not music? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 02/08/21 2:14:35 PM #27:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_wZ9ZBeRAo --- You're causing some tension, it got their attention, there's no need to mention Baby that your trousers just fell down <cite>Trumble posted [p:950419865] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_wZ9ZBeRAo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InYourWalls1 02/08/21 2:14:38 PM #28:	MagnusX posted... Do you consider acapella or unaccompanied choirs not music? I think you're reading too far into his claim He just means the voice is distinct in that it's not a manufactured tool like other musical instruments He's not talking about how it functions in music --- The fully enlightened earth radiates disaster triumphant <cite>InYourWalls1 posted [p:950419868] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>MagnusX posted... </cite> <quote>Do you consider acapella or unaccompanied choirs not music?</quote> I think you're reading too far into his claim He just means the voice is distinct in that it's not a manufactured tool like other musical instruments He's not talking about how it functions in music </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A5modeu5 02/08/21 2:15:20 PM #29:	I though you were going to post something like this. https://youtu.be/zwZISypgA9M Definate no to your example though. --- --- http://backloggery.com/a5modeu5/sig.gif <cite>A5modeu5 posted [p:950419893] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>I though you were going to post something like this. https://youtu.be/zwZISypgA9M Definate no to your example though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrResetti 02/08/21 2:17:14 PM #30:	Focus - Hocus Pocus --- https://imgur.com/GRZEGPm https://imgur.com/OeMgQZT <cite>MrResetti posted [p:950419965] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>Focus - Hocus Pocus </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/08/21 2:21:39 PM #31:	There are songs and entire artists or genres where the vocals intentionally blend in with the other instruments, so yeah. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:950420114] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>There are songs and entire artists or genres where the vocals intentionally blend in with the other instruments, so yeah. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MagnusX 02/08/21 2:24:24 PM #32:	InYourWalls1 posted... I think you're reading too far into his claim He just means the voice is distinct in that it's not a manufactured tool like other musical instruments He's not talking about how it functions in music He said the definition of an instrument excludes the voice in a topic asking if the voice is an instrument even with nonsensical lyrics. His claim is simply false. <cite>MagnusX posted [p:950420219] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>InYourWalls1 posted... </cite> <quote>I think you're reading too far into his claim He just means the voice is distinct in that it's not a manufactured tool like other musical instruments He's not talking about how it functions in music</quote>He said the definition of an instrument excludes the voice in a topic asking if the voice is an instrument even with nonsensical lyrics. His claim is simply false. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 02/08/21 2:50:00 PM #33:	MagnusX posted... He said the definition of an instrument excludes the voice in a topic asking if the voice is an instrument even with nonsensical lyrics. His claim is simply false. "instrument" in the sense he's using refers to something external from the body. the voice, being internal, does not fit that definition --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:950421105] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>MagnusX posted... </cite> <quote>He said the definition of an instrument excludes the voice in a topic asking if the voice is an instrument even with nonsensical lyrics. His claim is simply false.</quote>"instrument" in the sense he's using refers to something external from the body. the voice, being internal, does not fit that definition </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MagnusX 02/08/21 2:56:31 PM #34:	averagejoel posted... "instrument" in the sense he's using refers to something external from the body. the voice, being internal, does not fit that definition And I'm expecting a source that backs up the claim that an instrument has to be external from the body, a claim that is contradictory to most of musical history. <cite>MagnusX posted [p:950421303] in Can vocals... [t:79284283]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>"instrument" in the sense he's using refers to something external from the body. the voice, being internal, does not fit that definition</quote>And I'm expecting a source that backs up the claim that an instrument has to be external from the body, a claim that is contradictory to most of musical history. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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