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hockeybub89 02/07/21 6:38:58 PM #101:	Unite posted... The last of us 2 uses the LGBT community as a shield to make it immune from criticism. Any shade thrown towards this game is seen as bigotry. Neil was smart in that way making it so he and fans of this game would have moral high ground. Is this why no one criticizes Bioware games? Because they have LGBT characters in them? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:950389385] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>Unite posted... </cite> <quote>The last of us 2 uses the LGBT community as a shield to make it immune from criticism. Any shade thrown towards this game is seen as bigotry. Neil was smart in that way making it so he and fans of this game would have moral high ground.</quote>Is this why no one criticizes Bioware games? Because they have LGBT characters in them? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 02/07/21 6:39:15 PM #102:	hockeybub89 posted... The Last of Us 1 did nothing new and people like Angry Joe sang an entirely different tune. Because people have different opinions on different things. He liked the first one mainly for its story, he didn't like the story of this one and the lack of innovation following the generic gameplay of the first. Innovation basically died a long time ago and that's okay. Not only is that not true, it's also not okay Everything has pretty much already been done before. Name a single critically acclaimed or UnfairRepresent-acclaimed piece of media of the past 15 years and I can guarantee you it wasn't innovative. Humanity was going to run out of ideas eventually. We've been making video games for 50+ years and writing stories for thousands. Wut that's insane logic. Pressing buttons doesn't mean something can't be innovative. Far Cry 3 was innovative despite building off FC2's gameplay because it added things. Wingsuits, wild animals that can attack you and enemies, outposts that can be attacked in multiple ways. It gave the MC a storyarc and made the 1st person perspective relevant. Then 4/5/ND just did the same thing. They didn't continue adding new ideas or trying something different Ass Creed 2 was innovative despite building off AC1, more buildings to climb, the villa, new equipment, more open ended missions. Games like Shadow of the Colossus, Obra Din, Get Even, This War of Mine, Papers Please all try new things or new ways to tell stories. The argument of "It's okay to be dull and generic because it's literally impossible not to be dull and generic so why do the effort of trying to be interesting or having passion for new ideas or improvements to existing ones." is so monumentally stupid on such a fundamental level that out of respect to your intelligence I refuse to believe that you actually think that. A toddler wouldn't even accept that logic if you fed him Pizza 9 days in a row and then claimed there was nothing other than pizza to eat in the world so there's no point in trying anything different. If you really believed this was the apex of humanity and nothing new or different can or ever will be created so everything no matter what is the best it can ever be or worse, you wouldn't get out of bed in the morning. What would be the point? You're still throwing around a lot of subjective words and framing things in a way to make it sound like truth. "Some people just like boring, awful shit and applaud whatever they are told to like, while others prefer to think and experience new things." Yes? Your point? Opinions are subjective. That is truth. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:950389398] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>The Last of Us 1 did nothing new and people like Angry Joe sang an entirely different tune.</quote> Because people have different opinions on different things. He liked the first one mainly for its story, he didn't like the story of this one and the lack of innovation following the generic gameplay of the first. <quote> Innovation basically died a long time ago and that's okay.</quote> Not only is that not true, it's also not okay <quote> Everything has pretty much already been done before. Name a single critically acclaimed or UnfairRepresent-acclaimed piece of media of the past 15 years and I can guarantee you it wasn't innovative. Humanity was going to run out of ideas eventually. We've been making video games for 50+ years and writing stories for thousands.</quote> Wut that's insane logic. Pressing buttons doesn't mean something can't be innovative. Far Cry 3 was innovative despite building off FC2's gameplay because it added things. Wingsuits, wild animals that can attack you and enemies, outposts that can be attacked in multiple ways. It gave the MC a storyarc and made the 1st person perspective relevant. Then 4/5/ND just did the same thing. They didn't continue adding new ideas or trying something different Ass Creed 2 was innovative despite building off AC1, more buildings to climb, the villa, new equipment, more open ended missions. Games like Shadow of the Colossus, Obra Din, Get Even, This War of Mine, Papers Please all try new things or new ways to tell stories. The argument of "It's okay to be dull and generic because it's literally impossible not to be dull and generic so why do the effort of trying to be interesting or having passion for new ideas or improvements to existing ones." is so monumentally stupid on such a fundamental level that out of respect to your intelligence I refuse to believe that you actually think that. A toddler wouldn't even accept that logic if you fed him Pizza 9 days in a row and then claimed there was nothing other than pizza to eat in the world so there's no point in trying anything different. If you really believed this was the apex of humanity and nothing new or different can or ever will be created so everything no matter what is the best it can ever be or worse, you wouldn't get out of bed in the morning. What would be the point? <quote>You're still throwing around a lot of subjective words and framing things in a way to make it sound like truth. "Some people just like boring, awful shit and applaud whatever they are told to like, while others prefer to think and experience new things."</quote> Yes? Your point? Opinions are subjective. That is truth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 02/07/21 6:39:41 PM #103:	LightningAce11 posted... There's another Joe? Does he just make friends with joes so he can be the angry one? Other Joe's like a childhood friend of his and has been on the show for probably 10 years. Not sure why he's called Other Joe but altogether that channel has a solid trifecta now. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:950389421] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>LightningAce11 posted... </cite> <quote>There's another Joe? Does he just make friends with joes so he can be the angry one?</quote> Other Joe's like a childhood friend of his and has been on the show for probably 10 years. Not sure why he's called Other Joe but altogether that channel has a solid trifecta now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 02/07/21 6:40:42 PM #104:	Unite posted... The last of us 2 uses the LGBT community as a shield to make it immune from criticism. Any shade thrown towards this game is seen as bigotry. Neil was smart in that way making it so he and fans of this game would have moral high ground. smh @ at these conspiracies. the people who are called out for being homophobic/transphobic, and so forth, are the ones who complain about the game being "woke", "SJW", and/or being full of "politics". even though they're not views that I necessarily share, but there are a number of things you can criticize the game for without coming off as being bigoted - too long, too dark/bleak, walking simulator, boring, contrivances/coincidences, etc. basically any criticism that you might throw at the game if basically everything about it was the same, but the main characters were male and straight. --- The means of production should belong to the collective unconscious <cite>g0ldie posted [p:950389461] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>Unite posted... </cite> <quote>The last of us 2 uses the LGBT community as a shield to make it immune from criticism. Any shade thrown towards this game is seen as bigotry. Neil was smart in that way making it so he and fans of this game would have moral high ground.</quote> smh @ at these conspiracies. the people who are called out for being homophobic/transphobic, and so forth, are the ones who complain about the game being "woke", "SJW", and/or being full of "politics". even though they're not views that I necessarily share, but there are a number of things you can criticize the game for without coming off as being bigoted - too long, too dark/bleak, walking simulator, boring, contrivances/coincidences, etc. basically any criticism that you might throw at the game if basically everything about it was the same, but the main characters were male and straight. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 02/07/21 6:45:57 PM #105:	hockeybub89 posted... No, I'm actually saying the facts don't care about my feelings or yours. Opinions aren't facts. Deadly Premonition is an objectively bad video game that I like. Civilization IV is an objectively good game that I do not like. No those are opinions There are objective qualities and subjective qualities. Hyperliterally there aren't. On some level I think I can agree in that there are some things so absurd I think no one would subjectively hold them IE: A game with a 2 minute loading screen is better than the same game with a 3 second loading screen. But on those aspects, TLOU2 is terrible. Long loading times and forced walking sections Whether or not gameplay, story, characters, art design, sound design, use of color, control scheme etc is "Good or bad" is not objective, that's purely subjective. Otherwise, you're saying the only difference between The Room and a Kubrick film is popular opinion. No quite the opposite. That's what you're saying. You're saying The Shining and by extention PewDiePie and Donald Trump and McDonalds are objectively great things because they are popular and a lot of people like them. And The Room is objectively bad because it's unpopular and a lot of people dislike it. I'm saying there is no objective truth, only subjective perspectives. You can like or dislike something. Someone else will have a different experience. Pizza doesn't objectively taste good because you like it and a lot of people agree with you. You gotta be more open midned man. Things aren't objective just because you agree with them. That's the height of arrogance, boarderline religious fanaticism --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:950389663] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>No, I'm actually saying the facts don't care about my feelings or yours.</quote> Opinions aren't facts. <quote> Deadly Premonition is an objectively bad video game that I like. Civilization IV is an objectively good game that I do not like.</quote> No those are opinions <quote> There are objective qualities and subjective qualities.</quote> Hyperliterally there aren't. On some level I think I can agree in that there are some things so absurd I think no one would subjectively hold them IE: A game with a 2 minute loading screen is better than the same game with a 3 second loading screen. But on those aspects, TLOU2 is terrible. Long loading times and forced walking sections Whether or not gameplay, story, characters, art design, sound design, use of color, control scheme etc is "Good or bad" is not objective, that's purely subjective. <quote> Otherwise, you're saying the only difference between The Room and a Kubrick film is popular opinion.</quote> No quite the opposite. That's what you're saying. You're saying The Shining and by extention PewDiePie and Donald Trump and McDonalds are objectively great things because they are popular and a lot of people like them. And The Room is objectively bad because it's unpopular and a lot of people dislike it. I'm saying there is no objective truth, only subjective perspectives. You can like or dislike something. Someone else will have a different experience. Pizza doesn't objectively taste good because you like it and a lot of people agree with you. You gotta be more open midned man. Things aren't objective just because you agree with them. That's the height of arrogance, boarderline religious fanaticism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 02/07/21 6:48:25 PM #106:	g0ldie posted... smh @ at these conspiracies. the people who are called out for being homophobic/transphobic, and so forth, are the ones who complain about the game being "woke", "SJW", and/or being full of "politics". even though they're not views that I necessarily share, but there are a number of things you can criticize the game for without coming off as being bigoted - too long, too dark/bleak, walking simulator, boring, contrivances/coincidences, etc. basically any criticism that you might throw at the game if basically everything about it was the same, but the main characters were male and straight. I think his point is that people who bring up the complaints such as the boring gameplay, too long, terrible story, lazy enviroment design, bland characters, awful pacing etc are often dismissed as being bigoted as a lazy deflection to avoid those views. They're not "coming across as bigoted." they're just being called it. I mean users in this topic alone have openly said anyone who dislikes it is doing so to go against being woke. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:950389759] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>g0ldie posted... </cite> <quote>smh @ at these conspiracies. the people who are called out for being homophobic/transphobic, and so forth, are the ones who complain about the game being "woke", "SJW", and/or being full of "politics". even though they're not views that I necessarily share, but there are a number of things you can criticize the game for without coming off as being bigoted - too long, too dark/bleak, walking simulator, boring, contrivances/coincidences, etc. basically any criticism that you might throw at the game if basically everything about it was the same, but the main characters were male and straight.</quote>I think his point is that people who bring up the complaints such as the boring gameplay, too long, terrible story, lazy enviroment design, bland characters, awful pacing etc are often dismissed as being bigoted as a lazy deflection to avoid those views. They're not "coming across as bigoted." they're just being called it. I mean users in this topic alone have openly said anyone who dislikes it is doing so to go against being woke. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JBaLLEN66 02/07/21 6:51:03 PM #107:	where is cold war? --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdR2Iktffaw The day Capitalism was humiliated :) <cite>JBaLLEN66 posted [p:950389851] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>where is cold war? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/07/21 6:52:20 PM #108:	Pretty sure Angry Joe made up his mind about TLOU2 before the game even came out. He was one of the most vocal haters during the leaks IIRC --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:950389892] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>Pretty sure Angry Joe made up his mind about TLOU2 before the game even came out. He was one of the most vocal haters during the leaks IIRC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/07/21 6:53:12 PM #109:	UnfairRepresent posted... The argument of "It's okay to be dull and generic because it's literally impossible not to be dull and generic so why do the effort of trying to be interesting or having passion for new ideas or improvements to existing ones." is so monumentally stupid on such a fundamental level that out of respect to your intelligence I refuse to believe that you actually think that. A toddler wouldn't even accept that logic if you fed him Pizza 9 days in a row and then claimed there was nothing other than pizza to eat in the world so there's no point in trying anything different. If you really believed this was the apex of humanity and nothing new or different can or ever will be created so everything no matter what is the best it can ever be or worse, you wouldn't get out of bed in the morning. What would be the point? Variations on a theme. I didn't say everything was dull and generic. I said we pretty much ran out of new ideas. There are lots of ideas out there and all kind of ways you can combine them or express them. You can create your take on existing genres and themes. You can still be the best, worst, or anywhere in between. We can innovate infinitely in some aspects of society, but no one is inventing new basic story plots. Everything you like is derivative. I get up in the morning because I'm pretty sure I haven't consumed every piece of art in human history yet and people are putting out new work everyday. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:950389925] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>The argument of "It's okay to be dull and generic because it's literally impossible not to be dull and generic so why do the effort of trying to be interesting or having passion for new ideas or improvements to existing ones." is so monumentally stupid on such a fundamental level that out of respect to your intelligence I refuse to believe that you actually think that. A toddler wouldn't even accept that logic if you fed him Pizza 9 days in a row and then claimed there was nothing other than pizza to eat in the world so there's no point in trying anything different. If you really believed this was the apex of humanity and nothing new or different can or ever will be created so everything no matter what is the best it can ever be or worse, you wouldn't get out of bed in the morning. What would be the point?</quote>Variations on a theme. I didn't say everything was dull and generic. I said we pretty much ran out of new ideas. There are lots of ideas out there and all kind of ways you can combine them or express them. You can create your take on existing genres and themes. You can still be the best, worst, or anywhere in between. We can innovate infinitely in some aspects of society, but no one is inventing new basic story plots. Everything you like is derivative. I get up in the morning because I'm pretty sure I haven't consumed every piece of art in human history yet and people are putting out new work everyday. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jason19192 02/07/21 6:54:37 PM #110:	Darmik posted... Pretty sure Angry Joe made up his mind about TLOU2 before the game even came out. He was one of the most vocal haters during the leaks IIRC He called Abby the transphobic slur, very rational and level headed gamer. /s <cite>jason19192 posted [p:950389975] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>Pretty sure Angry Joe made up his mind about TLOU2 before the game even came out. He was one of the most vocal haters during the leaks IIRC</quote>He called Abby the transphobic slur, very rational and level headed gamer. /s </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 02/07/21 6:55:14 PM #111:	it feels like people conflate ND calling out the haters (people who send death threats, complain about lesbian relationships, Abby's buffness, etc.) with them attacking people who just don't like the game. like, there's nothing to suggest that ND criticized/attacked people for just not being into TLoU2, but now they're somehow using their characters who might belong to some marginalized group, or another, as some kinda shield for any kinda critique, whether it's valid or not. --- The means of production should belong to the collective unconscious <cite>g0ldie posted [p:950390000] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>it feels like people conflate ND calling out the haters (people who send death threats, complain about lesbian relationships, Abby's buffness, etc.) with them attacking people who just don't like the game. like, there's nothing to suggest that ND criticized/attacked people for just not being into TLoU2, but now they're somehow using their characters who might belong to some marginalized group, or another, as some kinda shield for any kinda critique, whether it's valid or not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlameTurtle 02/07/21 6:55:15 PM #112:	jason19192 posted... He called Abby the transphobic slur, very rational and level headed gamer. /s Did he really --- Updated Prediction for the 2020 election: https://www.270towin.com/maps/xGWGg <cite>FlameTurtle posted [p:950390001] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>jason19192 posted... </cite> <quote>He called Abby the transphobic slur, very rational and level headed gamer. /s</quote>Did he really </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 02/07/21 6:57:55 PM #113:	FlameTurtle posted... Did he really No he didn't because she was never trans to begin with and he actually played the game. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:950390102] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>FlameTurtle posted... </cite> <quote>Did he really</quote> No he didn't because she was never trans to begin with and he actually played the game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 02/07/21 7:00:21 PM #114:	hockeybub89 posted... I get up in the morning because I'm pretty sure I haven't consumed every piece of art in human history yet and people are putting out new work everyday. And yet at the same time you claim TLOU2 has to be boring and bland and dull because it's impossible for it not be. Hence why I don't believe you. g0ldie posted... it feels like people conflate ND calling out the haters (people who send death threats, complain about lesbian relationships, Abby's buffness, etc.) with them attacking people who just don't like the game. like, there's nothing to suggest that ND criticized/attacked people for just not being into TLoU2, but now they're somehow using their characters who might belong to some marginalized group, or another, as some kinda shield for any kinda critique, whether it's valid or not. I wasn't talking about Naughty Dog, I was talking about TLOU2 fans including in this topic. It's a common defense to go "You're just saying the gameplay is dull and too long because Ellie is gay!" even though she was gay in the first game. I don't think that was Naughty Dog's intention but without a doubt a lot of TLOU2 fanboys are doing it. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:950390197] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote> I get up in the morning because I'm pretty sure I haven't consumed every piece of art in human history yet and people are putting out new work everyday.</quote>And yet at the same time you claim TLOU2 has to be boring and bland and dull because it's impossible for it not be. Hence why I don't believe you. g0ldie posted... </cite> <quote>it feels like people conflate ND calling out the haters (people who send death threats, complain about lesbian relationships, Abby's buffness, etc.) with them attacking people who just don't like the game. like, there's nothing to suggest that ND criticized/attacked people for just not being into TLoU2, but now they're somehow using their characters who might belong to some marginalized group, or another, as some kinda shield for any kinda critique, whether it's valid or not.</quote>I wasn't talking about Naughty Dog, I was talking about TLOU2 fans including in this topic. It's a common defense to go "You're just saying the gameplay is dull and too long because Ellie is gay!" even though she was gay in the first game. I don't think that was Naughty Dog's intention but without a doubt a lot of TLOU2 fanboys are doing it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/07/21 7:02:35 PM #115:	Jagr_68 posted... No he didn't because she was never trans to begin with and he actually played the game. Yes he did https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastOfUs2/comments/gn99tl/supercut_angry_joe_reacting_to_the_leaks/ Major TLOU2 spoilers obviously although some of their assumptions are wrong. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:950390299] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>Jagr_68 posted... </cite> <quote>No he didn't because she was never trans to begin with and he actually played the game.</quote> Yes he did https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastOfUs2/comments/gn99tl/supercut_angry_joe_reacting_to_the_leaks/ Major TLOU2 spoilers obviously although some of their assumptions are wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/07/21 7:03:32 PM #116:	UnfairRepresent posted... No quite the opposite. That's what you're saying. You're saying The Shining and by extention PewDiePie and Donald Trump and McDonalds are objectively great things because they are popular and a lot of people like them. And The Room is objectively bad because it's unpopular and a lot of people dislike it. I'm saying there is no objective truth, only subjective perspectives. You can like or dislike something. Someone else will have a different experience. Pizza doesn't objectively taste good because you like it and a lot of people agree with you. You gotta be more open midned man. Things aren't objective just because you agree with them. That's the height of arrogance, boarderline religious fanaticism Where did you get that I'm arguing the game is good because it's popular? Popularity is actually not a great judgement of quality. The highest grossing movies of 2019 were not the highest quality. The most popular restaurants are fast-food. They are objectively not the best, but they are the most popular. Anyone who prefers a Big Mac to Kobe beef is objectively choosing worse quality. Their opinion doesn't change the facts. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:950390339] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>No quite the opposite. That's what you're saying. You're saying The Shining and by extention PewDiePie and Donald Trump and McDonalds are objectively great things because they are popular and a lot of people like them. And The Room is objectively bad because it's unpopular and a lot of people dislike it. I'm saying there is no objective truth, only subjective perspectives. You can like or dislike something. Someone else will have a different experience. Pizza doesn't objectively taste good because you like it and a lot of people agree with you. You gotta be more open midned man. Things aren't objective just because you agree with them. That's the height of arrogance, boarderline religious fanaticism</quote>Where did you get that I'm arguing the game is good because it's popular? Popularity is actually not a great judgement of quality. The highest grossing movies of 2019 were not the highest quality. The most popular restaurants are fast-food. They are objectively not the best, but they are the most popular. Anyone who prefers a Big Mac to Kobe beef is objectively choosing worse quality. Their opinion doesn't change the facts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 02/07/21 7:03:47 PM #117:	I don't doubt that a lot of fanboys/fangirls do that, but I was responding to the poster who said that that's what Naughty Dog/Neil Druckmann is doing. --- The means of production should belong to the collective unconscious <cite>g0ldie posted [p:950390352] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>I don't doubt that a lot of fanboys/fangirls do that, but I was responding to the poster who said that that's what Naughty Dog/Neil Druckmann is doing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 02/07/21 7:04:24 PM #118:	Darmik posted... Yes he did https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastOfUs2/comments/gn99tl/supercut_angry_joe_reacting_to_the_leaks/ Major TLOU2 spoilers obviously although some of their assumptions are wrong. Gotcha, yeah nvm. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:950390372] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>Yes he did https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastOfUs2/comments/gn99tl/supercut_angry_joe_reacting_to_the_leaks/ Major TLOU2 spoilers obviously although some of their assumptions are wrong.</quote> Gotcha, yeah nvm. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/07/21 7:05:11 PM #119:	UnfairRepresent posted... And yet at the same time you claim TLOU2 has to be boring and bland and dull because it's impossible for it not be. Hence why I don't believe you. Bloodborne was not innovative. It is neither boring nor bland. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:950390403] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>And yet at the same time you claim TLOU2 has to be boring and bland and dull because it's impossible for it not be. Hence why I don't believe you.</quote>Bloodborne was not innovative. It is neither boring nor bland. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 02/07/21 7:14:30 PM #120:	hockeybub89 posted... Bloodborne was not innovative. It is neither boring nor bland. Ok? TLOU2 was. See. Your "they had no choice other than to be boring and bland" doesn't even work in your own argument that it's impossible to not just repeat the same old shit Hell Bloodbourne and Sekiro only exists because Dark Souls was getting old so they tried new ideas to revamp the the game, focus on speed and guns no shield and stealth respectively. Maybe TLOU2 could have tried ~~giving Abby control over the dog? With some new gameplay mechanics, make the dog somewhat OP and then make it hit harder when Ellie kills it. Taking that away from you.~~ Off the top of my head but they couldn't be assed. To try anything. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:950390763] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Bloodborne was not innovative. It is neither boring nor bland.</quote>Ok? TLOU2 was. See. Your "they had no choice other than to be boring and bland" doesn't even work in your own argument that it's impossible to not just repeat the same old shit Hell Bloodbourne and Sekiro only exists because Dark Souls was getting old so they tried new ideas to revamp the the game, focus on speed and guns no shield and stealth respectively. Maybe TLOU2 could have tried giving Abby control over the dog? With some new gameplay mechanics, make the dog somewhat OP and then make it hit harder when Ellie kills it. Taking that away from you. Off the top of my head but they couldn't be assed. To try anything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlameTurtle 02/07/21 7:22:31 PM #121:	Darmik posted... Yes he did https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastOfUs2/comments/gn99tl/supercut_angry_joe_reacting_to_the_leaks/ Major TLOU2 spoilers obviously although some of their assumptions are wrong. Fuck him then --- Updated Prediction for the 2020 election: https://www.270towin.com/maps/xGWGg <cite>FlameTurtle posted [p:950391081] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>Yes he did https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastOfUs2/comments/gn99tl/supercut_angry_joe_reacting_to_the_leaks/ Major TLOU2 spoilers obviously although some of their assumptions are wrong.</quote>Fuck him then </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sevihaimerej 02/07/21 7:29:47 PM #122:	All value judgements are 100% subjective. "Better" graphics is thus an entirely personal experience, more detailed, higher poly count etc are objective, things that can be directly measured in some way. How is this such a difficult concept for people? Who tf even wants their opinions to be validated as somehow more correct than those of others? Why? --- https://imgtc.com/Y8ojZ3x <cite>sevihaimerej posted [p:950391416] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>All value judgements are 100% subjective. "Better" graphics is thus an entirely personal experience, more detailed, higher poly count etc are objective, things that can be directly measured in some way. How is this such a difficult concept for people? Who tf even wants their opinions to be validated as somehow more correct than those of others? Why? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeadPipeCinche 02/07/21 7:37:38 PM #123:	He is such a fucking joke. Why are people care what this fucking clown thinks? Does a top 10 list but gives 11. Puts Madden & Cyberpunk towards the back of the list when they are the worst games on the list. <cite>LeadPipeCinche posted [p:950391757] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>He is such a fucking joke. Why are people care what this fucking clown thinks? Does a top 10 list but gives 11. Puts Madden & Cyberpunk towards the back of the list when they are the worst games on the list. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 02/07/21 8:41:33 PM #124:	LeadPipeCinche posted... Why are people care what this fucking clown thinks? Does a top 10 list but gives 11. Puts Madden & Cyberpunk towards the back of the list when they are the worst games on the list. Well you sure seem to care what he thinks. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:950394708] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>LeadPipeCinche posted... </cite> <quote> Why are people care what this fucking clown thinks? Does a top 10 list but gives 11. Puts Madden & Cyberpunk towards the back of the list when they are the worst games on the list.</quote>Well you sure seem to care what he thinks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sphyx 02/07/21 9:11:51 PM #125:	UnfairRepresent posted... I disagree This topic in a nutshell, unsurprisingly. --- You're so vain, You probably think this sig is about you. <cite>Sphyx posted [p:950396038] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>I disagree</quote> This topic in a nutshell, unsurprisingly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayerblade11 02/08/21 6:59:37 PM #126:	There is no way Last of Us 2 or Cyberpunk even close to being the worst games in 2020 <cite>Slayerblade11 posted [p:950429089] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>There is no way Last of Us 2 or Cyberpunk even close to being the worst games in 2020 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 02/08/21 7:15:23 PM #127:	Slayerblade11 posted... There is no way Last of Us 2 or Cyberpunk even close to being the worst games in 2020 If you say so A bland mediocre game with a terrible story and a game that's blatantly unfinished, full of bugs/glitches with weak game design I don't think having a huge budget means you should be immune to criticism. Especially considering with that time, talent and money comes expectation. If TLOU1 and Witcher 3 are way better and years old by the same guys then ultimately what was the point? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:950429618] in Angry Joe ... [t:79282459]...</cite> <quote>Slayerblade11 posted... </cite> <quote>There is no way Last of Us 2 or Cyberpunk even close to being the worst games in 2020</quote>If you say so A bland mediocre game with a terrible story and a game that's blatantly unfinished, full of bugs/glitches with weak game design I don't think having a huge budget means you should be immune to criticism. Especially considering with that time, talent and money comes expectation. If TLOU1 and Witcher 3 are way better and years old by the same guys then ultimately what was the point? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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