Current Events > Angry Joe drops his list of the top 10 worst games of 2020.

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https://youtu.be/n80S2Y9Jrmw?t=79

10. Crucible
9. Hyperscape
8. Madden 2020
8. Fifa 2020 (Switch)
7. Valorant
6. Predator: Hunting Grounds
5. Cyberpunk 2077
4. Warcraft 3: Reforged
3. Marvel's Avengers
2. The Last of Us: Part 2
1. Fast and Furious: Crossroads

Lol @ putting Warcraft 3 above Last of Us 2.

I haven't played it so I can't judge myself but you just know that's going to cause some severe "REeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"ing from fanboys on both sides.

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WC3: Refund isnt even a game. It's a pile of shit

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Last of us and Valorant being on there make this list a joke, but that's about normal for him.

RadiantJoyrock posted...

Last of us and Valorant being on there make this list a joke, but that's about normal for him.

I was going to ask what is wrong with Valorant, not really my kind of game. The vids I have seen look good though, and almost made me want to try it.

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Alteres posted...

I was going to ask what is wrong with Valorant, not really my kind of game. The vids I have seen look good though, and almost made me want to try it.

Valiant is basically a better, more accessible version of CS:GO.

"Last of us cuz I didn't like the plot!!!!"

Alteres posted...

I was going to ask what is wrong with Valorant

Y....yo....you could watch the video and find out?

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dude is a jester

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Cyberpunk has been growing on me specially after the latest patches.

granted it still has some issues to be corrected but it still has some cool ideas like the cybernetic body modifications and whatnot. plus im liking the story and characters so far.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Y....yo....you could watch the video and find out?

I meant if the people here that had played it had any major problems with it.


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also, wtf were people expecting out of a fucking Fast and Furious game? ofc it was gonna be bad.

Imagine putting one of the most polished games this gen ahead of objectively broken games or ones with sleazy microtransactions because you don't like the story.

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Saying Cyberpunk 2077, Marvel's Avengers, and Last of Us Part II is worse than Madden NFL 2021 and Predator Hunting Grounds, nice meme.

word, no hate towards Irate Joseph but dude is tripping if he thinks that TLOU 2 is one of the worst...

heck Im not saying its a masterpiece or whatever but to call it one of the worst compared to shit like Fast and Furious or Marvel's Avengers is quite the stretch there. lol

UnfairRepresent posted...

Y....yo....you could watch the video and find out?

Angry Joe is like the videogame equivalent of Nostalgia Critic so no thanks lmao


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M_Live posted...

Lmao @ putting tlou2 on a worst list. Regardless of how you feel about the story, its objectively a well made game

I wish people would stop saying "Objectively" or "Regardless of how YOU feel" to mean "In my opinion."

It makes you come across so damn arrogant and close minded.

Any opinion on TLOU2 or any other game is subjective

Doe posted...

Angry Joe is like the videogame equivalent of Nostalgia Critic so no thanks lmao

He's way better than the Nostalgia Critic IMO.

Less skits and they are shorter, actually has some intelligent commentary on games, respects single and multiplayer. Still has genuine passion for games after over a decade of doing this shit.

I think Joe gets a bad rap due to his obnoxious "pretending to be mad" performative screaming.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

I wish people would stop saying "Objectively" or "Regardless of how YOU feel" to mean "In my opinion."

It makes you come across so damn arrogant and close minded.

Any opinion on TLOU2 or any other game is subjective

He's way better than the Nostalgia Critic IMO.

Less skits and they are shorter, actually has some intelligent commentary on games, respects single and multiplayer. Still has genuine passion for games after over a decade of doing this shit.

I think Joe gets a bad rap due to his obnoxious "pretending to be mad" performative screaming.

I think Joe gets a bad rap because he hardly has any critical thinking and just follows the popular opinion on the internet.

Dude said nothing of the game play, JUST the story lmfao what a dork

jason19192 posted...

I think Joe gets a bad rap because he hardly has any critical thinking and just follows the popular opinion on the internet.

I like that you're saying that in the same topic that has people screaming at him for not liking TLOU which is wrong because the popular opinion is to like it.

Joe likes Triple A games sure, but he has a track record of being honest and liking some games most people didn't and disliking some games that are very popular.

Dude is pretty consistent and I don't see how he lacks "Criticial thinking" when his reviews are usually like 30/40 minutes long, packed with praise and criticism of everything from gameplay to story to grapics to lighting to performance to ports.

Can't say I agree with you on this one.

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Alteres posted...

I was going to ask what is wrong with Valorant, not really my kind of game. The vids I have seen look good though, and almost made me want to try it.

IIRC his issues are with the microtransactions, it was enough to put it on the list for him. Like one of the gun skins is 99 bucks, and no thats not a typo.

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Ryven posted...

IIRC his issues are with the microtransactions, it was enough to put it on the list for him. Like one of the gun skins is 99 bucks, and no thats not a typo.

Valorant is free to play.

People are really upset about The Last of Us part 2. Havent personally played it yet but it really seems to be a love it or hate it affair.

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jason19192 posted...

Valorant is free to play.

That's not an excuse for bland, boring generic gameplay and terrible microtransactions. It's still bad

VerisimiIitude posted...

People are really upset about The Last of Us part 2. Havent personally played it yet but it really seems to be a love it or hate it affair.

Not really?

That's just what people who love it claim. In reality most people thought it was meh, that's actually the largest camp.

It's just that the guys who love it get really angry and scream real loud at people who don't. So it seems more polaralizing than it is.

Look how angry Joe (no pun intended) made users in this topic just by not liking it.

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Ryven posted...

IIRC his issues are with the microtransactions, it was enough to put it on the list for him. Like one of the gun skins is 99 bucks, and no thats not a typo.

Which is idiotic. The prices are ridiculous, but the game is free, and gives a ton of content for free, so they can charge as much as they want for skins and it won't be a reason to hate the game.

In technical terms, its at the forefront of gaming. Visuals, sound design, facial animation, etc. Theres no denying that, regardless of your feelings on the story or gameplay or voice acting or whatever else.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

That's not an excuse for bland, boring generic gameplay and terrible microtransactions. It's still bad

The gameplay is neither bland, boring, or generic though. It's counter-strike gameplay, but with changes made to move the gameplay away from memorizing arbitrary smoke spots and spray patterns.

Shablagoo posted...

In technical terms, its at the forefront of gaming. Visuals, sound design, facial animation, etc. Theres no denying that, regardless of your feelings on the story or gameplay or voice acting or whatever else.

Erm yes you can deny that. Quite easy.

I don't even think the sound design in Last of Us 2 is that good. Cry of Fear has better use of sound and that's a free game made by largely 1 person.

And "Visuals" is debatable as fuck. If you mean like graphical fidelity? Framerate, resolution etc. Then yeah it's high but that doesn't translate to a game being good. Art design goes a long way and lots of the visuals in TLOU2 are bland and dull.

Grays, boring enviroments, boring character designs. There is no clever use of graphics to achieve anything unusual or interesting moments. Something like Sonic 3 or This War of Mine is much lower in resolution but has a much stronger art design that fits the theme and fun of the game.

"This game is better because it has a higher resolution" is a strange take to me. Those crappy PS2/PS3 games you played a decade ago had better graphics than the ones that came a decade before it, how come you're not coming over them?

Or are you're saying the TLOU2 is objectively great due to visuals while at the same time saying the visuals are are complete shit in 10 years when games with better graphics come out?

It seems like such a strange stance to me. The kind of person who would call Order 1886 a masterpiece.

It's such a mechanical approach. "Can we quatify something into numbers? Yes? Well then the thing with higher numbers is better by default no matter what. You're not allowed to think or argue with the numbers."

Maybe Ensign Vorik would agree with you

Silent Hill 2 is near 20 years old and has better art direction and sound design despite being far more primative in terms of numbers, because the people who made it actually cared.

RadiantJoyrock posted...
Which is idiotic. The prices are ridiculous, but the game is free, and gives a ton of content for free, so they can charge as much as they want for skins and it won't be a reason to hate the game.

I disagree

"These shitty businsess practices that take advantage of people are okay" is a very bootlicker defense that only exists in the realm of gaming. No other market would accept that nonsense.

People should be complaining about it more, not less. All normalizing it does is submit so other companies can continue to do the same only worse and make the practice common.

Just look at what happened between Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War to see that.

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Can this guy just go into obscurity already?

and TC too, for being such a contrarian all the time

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How triggered do you have to be to put TLOU2 as the literal second worst game of 2020?


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Shablagoo posted...

In technical terms, its at the forefront of gaming. Visuals, sound design, facial animation, etc.

None of these things make a good game. It would make a good movie though.

In technical terms, the nemesis system form the Mordor games is much more revolutionary, and a damn shame WB has patented it.

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YourDrunkFather posted...

How triggered do you have to be to put TLOU2 as the literal second worst game of 2020?

It was the 3rd worst game from 2020 that I played too. Although I only played 14 games that came out in 2020.

It just wasn't a good year for gaming TBH. All around mediocrity. There were no truly awful or truly masterpiece games of note. Possibly covid played a hand in that

My best of 2020 list BTW:

14.Vanquish (Game literally didn't work)
13.Walking Dead Season 4
12.The Last of Us 2
11.Bayonetta.
10.FF7R
9.DBZ Kakarot
8.Catherine: Full Body
7.Mafia 3: Definitive Edition
6.Doom Eternal
5.Ghost of Tusshima
4.Dead Or School
3.The Outer Worlds
2.Metro Redux (yes I'm counting it as one game)
1.Residen Evil 3 Remake.

But before RE3make gets to feel good about itself, it's more that this was just a bad year for gaming as I said. It wasn't even as good as RE2make. In fact I'm tempted to put Metro Redux above it, the only reason I didn't is that it was kinda janky were as RE3make was pretty consistent in gameplay/glitches. I never had any problems anyway.

Just reverse it to get the worst list lol

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UnfairRepresent posted...

That's just what people who love it claim. In reality most people thought it was meh

wrong. most people who ACTUALLY PLAYED IT love it. A very vocal, chud minority hated it because it became a weird political hill for those people to die on.

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^Case and point.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Just look at what happened between Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War to see that.

Comparing a full price game to a free game. Try again.

The cosmetics are completely optional, do not effect the gameplay in any way, and you get a shit ton of content absolutely free. There is no argument for them making the game bad that does not make you look and sound extremely entitled.

RadiantJoyrock posted...

Last of us and Valorant being on there make this list a joke, but that's about normal for him.

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People bitching about him putting TLOU 2 on his list are insane. It's a fucking opinion guys, Jesus Fucking Christ.

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It being an Angry Joe list makes it a joke list.

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RadiantJoyrock posted...

Comparing a full price game to a free game. Try again.

The cosmetics are completely optional, do not effect the gameplay in any way, and you get a shit ton of content absolutely free. There is no argument for them making the game bad that does not make you look and sound extremely entitled.

LOL

"I think this is bad" "OMG You're so ENTILTED To think that!"

Try that on your friend.... Oh wait... Try that on someone online next time you see a movie.

"I didn't like Spiderman 14"
"OMG you're so entitled!"

Yeah you can think a game is bad for being boring, generic and having incredibly harmful and stupid marketing practices designed to hurt the vulnrable that have knock on effects justifying said bad practices and actively making the games industry worse

And there is 0 entitlement in openly saying you dislike this and encouraging others not to roll over so they can stomp on the other side of your face.

Honest question: Do you believe anybody is paying $100 for a red skin gun who isn't either an addict, someone who made a mistake or a child who got control of their parents bank details?

If your answer is yes then you're deluding yourself.

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3PiesAndAFork posted...

People bitching about him putting TLOU 2 on his list are insane. It's a fucking opinion guys, Jesus Fucking Christ.

It's an objectively bad opinion.

Didn't like the game? That's fine and completely understandable. Call it the second worst game of the year? Now you're a joke.

M_Live posted...

Lmao @ putting tlou2 on a worst list. Regardless of how you feel about the story, its objectively a well made game

It is garbage though, and a slap in the face to people who are fans of the first one

I forgot F&F Crossroads even existed.

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RadiantJoyrock posted...

It's an objectively bad opinion.

Didn't like the game? That's fine and completely understandable. Call it the second worst game of the year? Now you're a joke.

"if you don't like what I like then you're objectively wrong! How dare anyone think differently to ME!"

Jeez how arrogant can you be?

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mostly fair until I saw TLOU. What a joker.

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M_Live posted...

There is absolutely a level of objectivity when it come to quality, to say otherwise is ignorance.

not really, its all subjective

UnfairRepresent posted...

"if you don't like what I like then you're objectively wrong! How dare anyone think differently to ME!"

Jeez how arrogant can you be?

Completely misinterpreting an argument because you can't come up with an actual response, classic UR.

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Lol no there's not

Are you a robot?


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^ Hey now that's completely unfair!
https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob

well someone can play something like Big Rigs or Bubsy 3D and think they are really good games despite a lot of people saying otherwise... lol

M_Live posted...

There is absolutely a level of objectivity when it come to quality, to say otherwise is ignorance.

There's both objective and subjective elements to it.

Like, objectively, Cats was actually an amazing movie from a technical standpoint, as well as from the sheer level of effort put into it. It's the art direction and writing that really killed it.

So to call TLOU2 among the worst of the year, you're arguing its art direction and writing is as bad as Cats.