Current Events > Should it be legal to burn your country's flag?

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June went to THAT Trump rally with one question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN7E4xN2IVo

Surprising amount of "It should be" given the location.

imo, you're free to do what you want so long as it's your property and it isn't going to pose (immediate) danger to those around you.

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of course

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yes my country needs to go back to nazi laws. it's called patriotism!!!!

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I voted no it is not and it should not be, because its not illegal to do where I'm from.

I think context and intent are important (i.e. does it come with a threat, and is the act designed to threaten people, or is it more a "not in my name" type statement) and I also think its more serious to burn another countries flag than your own.

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whoops voted wrong

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Fizaga posted...

its more serious to burn another countries flag than your own

a crazy concept to many americans

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Will_VIIII posted...

whoops voted wrong

Same.

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Fire is the preferred method of "retiring" a beat up old US flag.

From the Flag Code (8-k)

The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning

Yea it should be. If you don't like the country you live in and can't respect it then move to another one

Yes and yes

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EricDraven59 posted...

Yea it should be. If you don't like the country you live in and can't respect it then move to another one

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EricDraven59 posted...

Yea it should be. If you don't like the country you live in and can't respect it then move to another one

America would be fucking empty at this point.

Weird that people say this and then bitch at immigrants for running away from their country's problems.

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They are free to try, but most flags are made of self-extinguishing fabrics these days.
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Fizaga posted...

I voted no it is not and it should not be, because its not illegal to do where I'm from.

I think context and intent are important (i.e. does it come with a threat, and is the act designed to threaten people, or is it more a "not in my name" type statement) and I also think its more serious to burn another countries flag than your own.

Did you misread the title? Title asks is it and should it be legal, not is it and should it be illegal
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Personally I think flag burning is a disgrace. However it's a form of protest and is protected by the constitution so it absolutely should be legal.
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Paragon21XX posted...

They are free to try, but most flags are made of self-extinguishing fabrics these days.

...and/or polymer fibers that burn up into all sorts of bizarre toxic fumes and a smoldering semi-liquid blob on the ground.

GiftedACIII posted...

Did you misread the title? Title asks is it and should it be legal, not is it and should it be illegal

Oh FFS.

Okay, its legal where I am from and don't think it should be illegal.

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hockeybub89 posted...

America would be fucking empty at this point.

Lol no it wouldn't

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I wish people would make up their minds about how significant or not flags are. The same people triggered by Confederate flags being raised at the same time wonder what the big deal is about the US flag that's nothing more then a peice of cloth to them.

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Prismsblade posted...

I wish people would make up their minds about how significant or not flags are. The same people triggered by Confederate flags being raised at the same time wonder what the big deal is about the US flag that's nothing more then a peice of cloth to them.

Usually its because displaying/wearing the US Flag is just something that's oversaturated to most people so it loses its meaning.

If somebody flies a confederate flag or Nazi flag, its a clear statement of intentions

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Prismsblade posted...

I wish people would make up their minds about how significant or not flags are. The same people triggered by Confederate flags being raised at the same time wonder what the big deal is about the US flag that's nothing more then a peice of cloth to them.

That's just bad generalization.

I have a ton of respect for the American flag. The confederate flag is literally the flag of treason.
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Imagine watching shoeonhead. Fucking gross.

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RebelElite791 posted...

Imagine watching shoeonhead. Fucking gross.

why?

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Will_VIIII posted...

whoops voted wrong

Same.

Should def be legal to burn your country's flag though. Ignore one vote for the last option, I just can't read.

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wackyteen posted...

Usually its because displaying/wearing the US Flag is just something that's oversaturated to most people so it loses its meaning.

If somebody flies a confederate flag or Nazi flag, its a clear statement of intentions

What exactly are most peoples intentions buning the US flag though?

Especially when whatever noble messages they try to convey are usually lost immediately amongst the shit tons of Americans they've just offended.

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Choco posted...

a crazy concept to many americans

Most Americans don't even know you're not supposed to wear clothing or use disposable items such as paper plates and cups with an American flag design but do it anyway. It's not surprising.

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Prismsblade posted...

What exactly are most peoples intentions buning the US flag though?

Especially when whatever noble messages they try to convey are usually lost immediately amongst the shit tons of Americans they've just offended.

It's a pretty strong declaration of your dissatisfaction with the (current) USG.

I mean, its pretty individual based on the exact meaning but I'd take it as it being their way of saying that they want to burn down (ideally, figuratively) the current establishment and replace it with one that will cater more to their political desires.

If the right wing hadn't latched itself so strongly to nationalism and the flag in general, I'd imagine there'd be a lot of flag burners in the right wing.

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Holy_Cloud105 posted...

Most Americans don't even know you're not supposed to wear clothing or use disposable items such as paper plates and cups with an American flag design but do it anyway. It's not surprising.

Pretty sure you're not supposed to wear an actual flag as clothing.

At least that's the conclusion i remember the last time this was brought up on CE.

I wear a US Flag jacket and US Flag themed shirt basically every day so >_>

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I see both sides here. Just burning a piece of cloth shouldnt be illegal but making a huge deal out of burning the flag and just to say fuck something in protest is a lil different.

Its like slurs. Yeah saying words should be legal but if youre only using them to offend people then i dunno.

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RebelElite791 posted...

Imagine watching shoeonhead. Fucking gross.

Afaik she has moved away from the community of shitheads she used to associate with after realizing how bad the anti-SJW crowd really is

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wackyteen posted...

Pretty sure you're not supposed to wear an actual flag as clothing.

At least that's the conclusion i remember the last time this was brought up on CE.

I wear a US Flag jacket and US Flag themed shirt basically every day so >_>

No, it's anything with the flag design. The code says anything that is wearing apparel, drapery, bedding or disposable items. It's not illegal or anything, but it's against flag etiquette for the US.

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I think it's legal to do so here as long as you don't cause a fire hazard in the process, and it absolutely should be.

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Holy_Cloud105 posted...

No, it's anything with the flag design. The code says anything that is wearing apparel, drapery, bedding or disposable items. It's not illegal or anything, but it's against flag etiquette for the US.

But how else am I supposed to be patriotic and show my toned booty in a hot manthong?




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Burning any flag should be allowed. But it has to be all or nothing.

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Isn't it like low level arson no matter what flag it is?

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should it be illegal to burn another countries flag?

like what if there was a 1 million person march in america and every person burned a chinese flag

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It is and should remain legal, its a form of expression that is protected under the first amendment and in the bill of rights of other countries that value freedom of speech and expression.

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It shouldn't be illegal , but it isn't an action to be celebrated either . As others said context is important here .

I personally take more offence at people who worship a flag .
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I will never understand the US flag fetish.

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This is absolutely one of those I may not agree with you but Ill defend to the death your right to it, kinds of things.

I think theres zero positives that can come from doing it and its a very incendiary action but as a matter of freedom of expression, theres nothing technically prohibiting it so carry on. Youre basically asking to start a riot, though, and I wont object if you got arrested for inciting.

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Yeah, it definitely shouldnt be celebrated as its a very strong sign of growing civil unrest and disapproval of a countrys government.

Focus of the government in that situation should be on why flags are being burned and not whether or not the person should be arrested for doing so

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ThyCorndog posted...

of course

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Chev427BB posted...

Yeah, it definitely shouldnt be celebrated as its a very strong sign of growing civil unrest and disapproval of a countrys government.

Well maybe the people should be right to disapprove of their government.

Like if I lived in Venezuela and someone burnt their flag I could empathize. The people charged with representing that flag have utterly failed it and a strong message should rightfully be sent.

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Look, if I'm cold and the only way to keep warm is to burn some flags, I'm burning the flags.

If they dont want them burned, make them flame retardant. Make it mandatory they be made out of flame retardant materials. Otherwise, people gonna burn them.

Not going to make a show out of burning them, that's fucked. I'd never burn something to show off, but I'll burn almost anything for survival.

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Solid Sonic posted...

Well maybe the people should be right to disapprove of their government.

Like if I lived in Venezuela and someone burnt their flag I could empathize. The people charged with representing that flag have utterly failed it and a strong message should rightfully be sent.

I agree with you completely, your example is what I meant by my post

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spikethedevil posted...

I will never understand the US flag fetish. a

It's not a fetish. Showing the flag is a sign of respect and loyalty to one's home.

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When an American burns a flag in protest of an unjust war that ends countless lives for no reason and you choose to be mad at the person who burned the flag, I just dont understand your perception of reality.

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Shablagoo posted...

When an American burns a flag in protest of an unjust war that ends countless lives for no reason and you choose to be mad at the person who burned the flag, I just dont understand your perception of reality.

"THATS MUH FLAG YOU TERRORIST!" like it belongs to them somehow. Idk.

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