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Iwin2013 01/17/21 5:23:04 PM #1:	Up until the forth year; Things were great. Sex was great(Hit it nine times. A personal record.) Anyways, forth year, she kinda changed. Anything romantic that I did, she crushed or ruined in some way. We ended up talking and she was living a second life. I mean, I did not noticed this, as anytime she mentioned someone else was that he cheated. Now I'm "single", but I kinda still love her... But the hurt is too much; I guess I should've seen alot of this coming. Inb4thistotallyhappened Inb4rushingtoCEstatement <cite>Iwin2013 posted [p:949612979] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Up until the forth year; Things were great. Sex was great(Hit it nine times. A personal record.) Anyways, forth year, she kinda changed. Anything romantic that I did, she crushed or ruined in some way. We ended up talking and she was living a second life. I mean, I did not noticed this, as anytime she mentioned someone else was that he cheated. Now I'm "single", but I kinda still love her... But the hurt is too much; I guess I should've seen alot of this coming. Inb4thistotallyhappened Inb4rushingtoCEstatement </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shironinja 01/17/21 5:23:49 PM #2:	Attachment is the root of all suffering. --- Now or never. <cite>shironinja posted [p:949613004] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Attachment is the root of all suffering. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Socrawheeze 01/17/21 5:24:41 PM #3:	How long has it been? <cite>Socrawheeze posted [p:949613021] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>How long has it been? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AdrianBeterson 01/17/21 5:26:55 PM #4:	Sorry to hear this. I just went through something similar with a coworker just last week. I think the lesson learned is relationships with coworkers almost never work out, and they usually end badly. --- https://imgur.com/EvtcK3P <cite>AdrianBeterson posted [p:949613098] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Sorry to hear this. I just went through something similar with a coworker just last week. I think the lesson learned is relationships with coworkers almost never work out, and they usually end badly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 01/17/21 5:28:25 PM #5:	That's why they say not to shit where you eat. Sorry that happened to you. --- https://imgur.com/vDci4hD <cite>Ivynn posted [p:949613161] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>That's why they say not to shit where you eat. Sorry that happened to you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kobe Bryant 01/17/21 5:28:45 PM #6:	How do you only hit that 9 times in four years lmao --- Kobe > LeBron. It's only internet stat nerds who think Lebron is better. Watch the games and stop calculating Lebron's PER with your wristwatch calculator. <cite>Kobe Bryant posted [p:949613175] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>How do you only hit that 9 times in four years lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joker98 01/17/21 5:29:17 PM #7:	I hesitated to date a girl I worked with last year. I didn't like her enough to see myself with her forever, so I thought a breakup would be inevitable. Fast forward to now, It's COVID and we don't work together anymore anyway and I probably could've dated her with no real issues (I'm probably not going back to the same job after COVID). Lots of probably's and I don't actually regret my decision to not date her, but ya know how it is --- ~~Every day I'm husseling and busseling~~ <cite>Joker98 posted [p:949613201] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>I hesitated to date a girl I worked with last year. I didn't like her enough to see myself with her forever, so I thought a breakup would be inevitable. Fast forward to now, It's COVID and we don't work together anymore anyway and I probably could've dated her with no real issues (I'm probably not going back to the same job after COVID). Lots of probably's and I don't actually regret my decision to not date her, but ya know how it is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joker98 01/17/21 5:30:15 PM #8:	Kobe Bryant posted... How do you only hit that 9 times in four years lmao I was wondering that too. In my 4+ year relationship, we had sex hundreds of times --- ~~Every day I'm husseling and busseling~~ <cite>Joker98 posted [p:949613246] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Kobe Bryant posted... </cite> <quote>How do you only hit that 9 times in four years lmao</quote>I was wondering that too. In my 4+ year relationship, we had sex hundreds of times </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jon1012 01/17/21 5:30:57 PM #9:	Wait... In 1,460 days you only hit that 9 times? --- We are Borg. <cite>jon1012 posted [p:949613289] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Wait... In 1,460 days you only hit that 9 times? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
smoke_break 01/17/21 5:31:38 PM #10:	Kobe Bryant posted... How do you only hit that 9 times in four years lmao Not trying to poke fun at TC but that was my first thought too, like whoa. --- https://imgur.com/mOCFlRv <cite>smoke_break posted [p:949613325] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Kobe Bryant posted... </cite> <quote>How do you only hit that 9 times in four years lmao</quote>Not trying to poke fun at TC but that was my first thought too, like whoa. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 01/17/21 5:32:34 PM #11:	I'm assuming that the TC meant they smashed 9 times in a day, but I could be wrong. --- The pamphlet on First Life contains 93 lies and 7 truths. The truths don't provide any answers. <cite>g0ldie posted [p:949613378] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>I'm assuming that the TC meant they smashed 9 times in a day, but I could be wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 01/17/21 5:33:15 PM #12:	Yeah, I'm gonna need an explanation of why he only hit that 9 times in 4 years. --- https://imgur.com/Asq1ds6 <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:949613419] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, I'm gonna need an explanation of why he only hit that 9 times in 4 years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Socrawheeze 01/17/21 5:34:31 PM #13:	How many times they fucked isn't the point of the thread though. She was living a double life so she probably wasn't too into tc and only used him in desperate situations. He might have been smitten or it was his first real relationship form his perspective, so he either didn't know or didn't care that that was very rare <cite>Socrawheeze posted [p:949613464] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>How many times they fucked isn't the point of the thread though. She was living a double life so she probably wasn't too into tc and only used him in desperate situations. He might have been smitten or it was his first real relationship form his perspective, so he either didn't know or didn't care that that was very rare </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AdrianBeterson 01/17/21 5:35:01 PM #14:	Socrawheeze posted... How many times they fucked isn't the point of the thread though. She was living a double life so she probably wasn't too into tc and only used him in desperate situations. He might have been smitten or it was his first real relationship form his perspective, so he either didn't know or didn't care that that was very rare ^^^ --- https://imgur.com/EvtcK3P <cite>AdrianBeterson posted [p:949613480] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Socrawheeze posted... </cite> <quote>How many times they fucked isn't the point of the thread though. She was living a double life so she probably wasn't too into tc and only used him in desperate situations. He might have been smitten or it was his first real relationship form his perspective, so he either didn't know or didn't care that that was very rare</quote>^^^ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master Kazuya 01/17/21 5:35:16 PM #15:	g0ldie posted... I'm assuming that the TC meant they smashed 9 times in a day, but I could be wrong. This is the only way it makes sense --- itt my post is the best <cite>Master Kazuya posted [p:949613488] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>g0ldie posted... </cite> <quote>I'm assuming that the TC meant they smashed 9 times in a day, but I could be wrong.</quote> This is the only way it makes sense </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 01/17/21 5:35:34 PM #16:	Socrawheeze posted... How many times they fucked isn't the point of the thread though. She was living a double life so she probably wasn't too into tc and only used him in desperate situations. He might have been smitten or it was his first real relationship form his perspective, so he either didn't know or didn't care that that was very rare Yeah sounds like they weren't really dating lol --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:949613499] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Socrawheeze posted...</cite> <quote>How many times they fucked isn't the point of the thread though. She was living a double life so she probably wasn't too into tc and only used him in desperate situations. He might have been smitten or it was his first real relationship form his perspective, so he either didn't know or didn't care that that was very rare </quote> Yeah sounds like they weren't really dating lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iwin2013 01/17/21 5:35:50 PM #17:	Kobe Bryant posted... How do you only hit that 9 times in four years lmao Joker98 posted... I was wondering that too. In my 4+ year relationship, we had sex hundreds of times jon1012 posted... Wait... In 1,460 days you only hit that 9 times? When you both live with families, it's hard to get enough alone time. I spend half my time caring for my disabled mother and brother, and she lives at home with her mother and two brothers. So we'd have to get a room half the time, and spend a weekend or two. And it's even harder to convince someone even though, you pay most of the bills that it's not your mother's house; She just lives with you cause of her medical issues. <cite>Iwin2013 posted [p:949613514] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Kobe Bryant posted... </cite> <quote>How do you only hit that 9 times in four years lmao</quote> Joker98 posted... </cite> <quote>I was wondering that too. In my 4+ year relationship, we had sex hundreds of times</quote> jon1012 posted... </cite> <quote>Wait... In 1,460 days you only hit that 9 times?</quote> When you both live with families, it's hard to get enough alone time. I spend half my time caring for my disabled mother and brother, and she lives at home with her mother and two brothers. So we'd have to get a room half the time, and spend a weekend or two. And it's even harder to convince someone even though, you pay most of the bills that it's not your mother's house; She just lives with you cause of her medical issues. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Choco 01/17/21 5:37:09 PM #18:	why does this read like a bad copypasta --- https://imgur.com/286sD4e http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html <cite>Choco posted [p:949613575] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>why does this read like a bad copypasta </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iwin2013 01/17/21 5:37:28 PM #19:	g0ldie posted... I'm assuming that the TC meant they smashed 9 times in a day, but I could be wrong. I could be wrong on the count too. Sometimes I'd wake up and we'd already be in bed, naked. <cite>Iwin2013 posted [p:949613590] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>g0ldie posted... </cite> <quote>I'm assuming that the TC meant they smashed 9 times in a day, but I could be wrong.</quote> I could be wrong on the count too. Sometimes I'd wake up and we'd already be in bed, naked. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SrRd_RacinG 01/17/21 5:37:47 PM #20:	shironinja posted... Attachment is the root of all suffering. My Buddha brother. --- https://media.giphy.com/media/l3vRn3I4UyDoKyWLC/giphy.gif <cite>SrRd_RacinG posted [p:949613602] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>shironinja posted... </cite> <quote>Attachment is the root of all suffering.</quote>My Buddha brother. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master Kazuya 01/17/21 5:46:21 PM #21:	Iwin2013 posted... When you both live with families, it's hard to get enough alone time. I spend half my time caring for my disabled mother and brother, and she lives at home with her mother and two brothers. So we'd have to get a room half the time, and spend a weekend or two. And it's even harder to convince someone even though, you pay most of the bills that it's not your mother's house; She just lives with you cause of her medical issues. Do you think maybe the frequency of sex could've been a negative sign of the relationship? Whether that's the cause of her being shitty and cheating, or a symptom of her being shitty. Anyway, I feel like having sex an average of twice a year with someone who's your new GF is the same frequency of what people would consider a dead bedroom after several years of marriage. It's possible that maybe the urge didn't come up but you know your body better than I do. Sounds like you enjoyed it. Just seems like a bad sign overall (unless both people really don't feel like banging ever). Also if you really wanna fuck, you'll find a way. In the car, somewhere public, quickies when everyone's asleep, not giving a fuck and knowing you pay the bills so you're allowed to enjoy yourself in your own house, etc. --- itt my post is the best <cite>Master Kazuya posted [p:949614017] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Iwin2013 posted... </cite> <quote>When you both live with families, it's hard to get enough alone time. I spend half my time caring for my disabled mother and brother, and she lives at home with her mother and two brothers. So we'd have to get a room half the time, and spend a weekend or two. And it's even harder to convince someone even though, you pay most of the bills that it's not your mother's house; She just lives with you cause of her medical issues.</quote> Do you think maybe the frequency of sex could've been a negative sign of the relationship? Whether that's the cause of her being shitty and cheating, or a symptom of her being shitty. Anyway, I feel like having sex an average of twice a year with someone who's your new GF is the same frequency of what people would consider a dead bedroom after several years of marriage. It's possible that maybe the urge didn't come up but you know your body better than I do. Sounds like you enjoyed it. Just seems like a bad sign overall (unless both people really don't feel like banging ever). Also if you really wanna fuck, you'll find a way. In the car, somewhere public, quickies when everyone's asleep, not giving a fuck and knowing you pay the bills so you're allowed to enjoy yourself in your own house, etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 01/17/21 5:48:06 PM #22:	lmao this has to be a pasta --- Oda break tracker 2021- 0 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 7-0 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 8-8 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:949614087] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>lmao this has to be a pasta</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joker98 01/17/21 5:48:09 PM #23:	Master Kazuya posted... Do you think maybe the frequency of sex could've been a negative sign of the relationship? Whether that's the cause of her being shitty and cheating, or a symptom of her being shitty. Anyway, I feel like having sex an average of twice a year with someone who's your new GF is the same frequency of what people would consider a dead bedroom after several years of marriage. It's possible that maybe the urge didn't come up but you know your body better than I do. Sounds like you enjoyed it. Just seems like a bad sign overall (unless both people really don't feel like banging ever). Also if you really wanna fuck, you'll find a way. In the car, somewhere public, quickies when everyone's asleep, not giving a fuck and knowing you pay the bills so you're allowed to enjoy yourself in your own house, etc. I agree with all of this. When there's a will, there's a way. It sounds like either one or both of you didn't want to have sex that much (which is fine) --- ~~Every day I'm husseling and busseling~~ <cite>Joker98 posted [p:949614090] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Master Kazuya posted... </cite> <quote>Do you think maybe the frequency of sex could've been a negative sign of the relationship? Whether that's the cause of her being shitty and cheating, or a symptom of her being shitty. Anyway, I feel like having sex an average of twice a year with someone who's your new GF is the same frequency of what people would consider a dead bedroom after several years of marriage. It's possible that maybe the urge didn't come up but you know your body better than I do. Sounds like you enjoyed it. Just seems like a bad sign overall (unless both people really don't feel like banging ever). Also if you really wanna fuck, you'll find a way. In the car, somewhere public, quickies when everyone's asleep, not giving a fuck and knowing you pay the bills so you're allowed to enjoy yourself in your own house, etc.</quote>I agree with all of this. When there's a will, there's a way. It sounds like either one or both of you didn't want to have sex that much (which is fine) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 01/17/21 5:48:49 PM #24:	9 times in 4 years Yeah this didn't happen --- Common sense is a fudge round - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:949614130] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>9 times in 4 years Yeah this didn't happen </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Naysaspace 01/17/21 5:49:28 PM #25:	Choco posted... why does this read like a bad copypasta Cuz it is --- (edited 1/18/2021 6:36:37 AM) <cite>Naysaspace posted [p:949614164] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Choco posted... </cite> <quote>why does this read like a bad copypasta</quote>Cuz it is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 01/17/21 5:53:16 PM #26:	There's like 80 year old couples that have sex more than 9 times a month let alone four years. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:949614334] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>There's like 80 year old couples that have sex more than 9 times a month let alone four years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iwin2013 01/17/21 5:55:22 PM #27:	Master Kazuya posted... Do you think maybe the frequency of sex could've been a negative sign of the relationship? Whether that's the cause of her being shitty and cheating, or a symptom of her being shitty. Anyway, I feel like having sex an average of twice a year with someone who's your new GF is the same frequency of what people would consider a dead bedroom after several years of marriage. It's possible that maybe the urge didn't come up but you know your body better than I do. Sounds like you enjoyed it. Just seems like a bad sign overall (unless both people really don't feel like banging ever). Also if you really wanna fuck, you'll find a way. In the car, somewhere public, quickies when everyone's asleep, not giving a fuck and knowing you pay the bills so you're allowed to enjoy yourself in your own house, etc. Agreed. Idk, she was my first real relationship. So I didn't know what to expect. <cite>Iwin2013 posted [p:949614442] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Master Kazuya posted... </cite> <quote>Do you think maybe the frequency of sex could've been a negative sign of the relationship? Whether that's the cause of her being shitty and cheating, or a symptom of her being shitty. Anyway, I feel like having sex an average of twice a year with someone who's your new GF is the same frequency of what people would consider a dead bedroom after several years of marriage. It's possible that maybe the urge didn't come up but you know your body better than I do. Sounds like you enjoyed it. Just seems like a bad sign overall (unless both people really don't feel like banging ever). Also if you really wanna fuck, you'll find a way. In the car, somewhere public, quickies when everyone's asleep, not giving a fuck and knowing you pay the bills so you're allowed to enjoy yourself in your own house, etc.</quote> Agreed. Idk, she was my first real relationship. So I didn't know what to expect. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master Kazuya 01/17/21 6:01:17 PM #28:	Iwin2013 posted... Agreed. Idk, she was my first real relationship. So I didn't know what to expect. I see. I'm sorry for you man, that's a shitty way for things to end but hopefully you learn things you needed to learn in order to be wiser in the future --- itt my post is the best <cite>Master Kazuya posted [p:949614686] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Iwin2013 posted... </cite> <quote>Agreed. Idk, she was my first real relationship. So I didn't know what to expect.</quote> I see. I'm sorry for you man, that's a shitty way for things to end but hopefully you learn things you needed to learn in order to be wiser in the future </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 01/17/21 6:02:40 PM #29:	Sounds like it was a casual occsssional thing for her but tc assumed it was a relationship lol --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:949614741] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like it was a casual occsssional thing for her but tc assumed it was a relationship lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eggcorn 01/17/21 6:06:01 PM #30:	nine times in four years damn --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. <cite>eggcorn posted [p:949614940] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>nine times in four years damn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DDirtyDastard 01/17/21 6:08:28 PM #32:	Kobe Bryant posted... How do you only hit that 9 times in four years lmao This. I thought I read it wrong at first. I'm flabbergasted. <cite>DDirtyDastard posted [p:949615089] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Kobe Bryant posted... </cite> <quote>How do you only hit that 9 times in four years lmao</quote>This. I thought I read it wrong at first. I'm flabbergasted. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RetsuZaiZen 01/17/21 6:09:01 PM #33:	Kobe Bryant posted... How do you only hit that 9 times in four years lmao --- Why do nerdsalways get caught up on the details? https://imgur.com/dntQM https://imgur.com/9gNcUGM https://imgur.com/bH8vq3f <cite>RetsuZaiZen posted [p:949615107] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Kobe Bryant posted... </cite> <quote>How do you only hit that 9 times in four years lmao</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 01/17/21 6:09:39 PM #34:	Lmao at hitting on 9 times in four years. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:949615150] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Lmao at hitting on 9 times in four years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kobe Bryant 01/18/21 2:31:00 PM #35:	Bump --- Kobe > LeBron. It's only internet stat nerds who think Lebron is better. Watch the games and stop calculating Lebron's PER with your wristwatch calculator. <cite>Kobe Bryant posted [p:949645211] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Bump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666 01/18/21 4:22:22 PM #36:	Dont shit where you eat --- "May the Father of Understanding guide you." http://error1355.com/ce/Lordgold666.html <cite>Lordgold666 posted [p:949648672] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Dont shit where you eat </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 01/18/21 4:36:35 PM #37:	Yeah I was in a long distance relationship and even then I managed more than 9 times in one year. I originally thought I misread that she was your co-worker of 4 years and then you got into a relationship but man that's barely any. Did you not have that honeymoon period where you banged like rabbits even? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:949649123] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I was in a long distance relationship and even then I managed more than 9 times in one year. I originally thought I misread that she was your co-worker of 4 years and then you got into a relationship but man that's barely any. Did you not have that honeymoon period where you banged like rabbits even? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iwin2013 01/18/21 6:34:47 PM #38:	Darmik posted... Yeah I was in a long distance relationship and even then I managed more than 9 times in one year. I originally thought I misread that she was your co-worker of 4 years and then you got into a relationship but man that's barely any. Did you not have that honeymoon period where you banged like rabbits even? It could've been more than 9, I goofed on the number. But anyways, I done goofed. <cite>Iwin2013 posted [p:949653094] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah I was in a long distance relationship and even then I managed more than 9 times in one year. I originally thought I misread that she was your co-worker of 4 years and then you got into a relationship but man that's barely any. Did you not have that honeymoon period where you banged like rabbits even?</quote> It could've been more than 9, I goofed on the number. But anyways, I done goofed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 01/18/21 6:37:28 PM #39:	If it was only 9 times in 4 years you werent even her side dude. She went to you if her main and side guys were too busy. --- May contain bones https://youtu.be/jGbI0P4hh3o <cite>Chicken posted [p:949653183] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>If it was only 9 times in 4 years you werent even her side dude. She went to you if her main and side guys were too busy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iwin2013 01/18/21 6:38:29 PM #40:	Chicken posted... If it was only 9 times in 4 years you werent even her side dude. She went to you if her main and side guys were too busy. Didn't have side guys. She was a homebody. <cite>Iwin2013 posted [p:949653222] in So I dated... [t:79244732]...</cite> <quote>Chicken posted... </cite> <quote>If it was only 9 times in 4 years you werent even her side dude. She went to you if her main and side guys were too busy.</quote> Didn't have side guys. She was a homebody. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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