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skermac
01/04/21 3:50:19 PM
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politicians are banning gendered pronouns from House rules:

Banned words: father, mother, son, daughter, brother, mother-in-law, daughter-in-law.

Replacements: parent, child, sibling, parent-in-law, sibling-in-law, child-in-law.

This is out of control.

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Were_Wyrm
01/04/21 3:53:00 PM
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Seems silly to me, but I guess that's why they get paid the big bucks.

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Pus_N_Pecans
01/04/21 3:53:09 PM
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That makes sense from a law making standpoint though. Not everyone fits into a gender binary. If they leave out non binary people, it makes it easier for those with ill intentions to deny their rights.

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DisgracefulSins
01/04/21 3:53:17 PM
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And people wonder why birth rates are dropping.

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Gruntling
01/04/21 3:54:39 PM
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I call people whatever they want, although I think it's a little excessive sometimes.

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Stewman_Magoo
01/04/21 3:54:49 PM
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Do you have a source for this TC?

I'd love to believe you at face value but I just can't

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Socrawheeze
01/04/21 3:55:37 PM
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skermac posted...
This is out of control.
oh my god the fabric of reality itself has begun to tear

oh nooooooo
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Darker Cheshire
01/04/21 3:56:06 PM
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Makes more sense from the position of legalese.

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Garioshi
01/04/21 3:56:34 PM
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I could not possibly care less.

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harley2280
01/04/21 3:57:06 PM
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Pus_N_Pecans posted...
That makes sense from a law making standpoint though. Not everyone fits into a gender binary. If they leave out non binary people, it makes it easier for those with ill intentions to deny their rights.

Darker Cheshire posted...
Makes more sense from the position of legalese.

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SamsungGearS2
01/04/21 3:58:32 PM
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Wait, what?

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nemu
01/04/21 4:00:18 PM
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https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-propose-banning-gendered-language-201419783.html

Instead of using the pronouns he or she, members would be required to use member, delegate, or resident commissioner. Instead of saying father and mother, members would refer to that individual as parent, and brother and sister would be replaced with sibling.
Pelosi said the unprecedented, bold ethics and legislative reforms will make the House more accountable, transparent and effective. The speaker introduced the changes with Rules Committee Chair James McGovern, who said the new rules do not tinker around the edges of ethics reform.

That is really dumb.
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ZEROWOLF
01/04/21 4:00:35 PM
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Darker Cheshire posted...
Makes more sense from the position of legalese.

Seems like it makes it more streamlined too. Less equivocation.

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Naysaspace
01/04/21 4:01:09 PM
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skermac posted...
This is out of control
@skermac

?????


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TreyFlowers
01/04/21 4:02:13 PM
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Sure why not.

I've never met anyone irl who requested I call them by a specific pronoun, or even someone online. I've seen plenty of twitter profiles with gender pronouns in them but just randoms, nobody I actually know

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AlmightyCheeks
01/04/21 4:02:33 PM
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This stupid shit is getting out of hand

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MTRodaba2468
01/04/21 4:03:25 PM
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Pus_N_Pecans posted...
That makes sense from a law making standpoint though. Not everyone fits into a gender binary. If they leave out non binary people, it makes it easier for those with ill intentions to deny their rights.

Darker Cheshire posted...
Makes more sense from the position of legalese.

These right here.

As far as using them "outside" the political or lawmaking realm, I've got no qualms with using someone's preferred pronouns. There are significantly more pressing matters in the world compared to how some individuals identify themselves.

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Stewman_Magoo
01/04/21 4:08:23 PM
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I found it, seems like it's only going to affect legislation. I don't have a problem with it if it passes.

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Funkydog
01/04/21 4:25:34 PM
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Makes perfect sense for legal things and 100 fine with it in general anyway as well.

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DystopiaMan
01/04/21 4:27:28 PM
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99.5% of the united states population is fine with what they are.
It is silly to do this shit.

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s0nicfan
01/04/21 4:28:08 PM
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Makes perfect sense from a bill drafting perspective. I'll be curious how they draft bills for sex-and-gender-specific things, though. Like... a woman's reproducive health bill, for example.

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Dreepapult
01/04/21 4:29:24 PM
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Darker Cheshire posted...
Makes more sense from the position of legalese.
Agreed

Personally, I don't really get it. But it ain't hurting anyone so whatever.

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skermac
01/04/21 4:30:05 PM
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Stewman_Magoo posted...
Do you have a source for this TC?

I'd love to believe you at face value but I just can't

one source but its all over google
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-democratic-house-rules-gender-neutral-curtail-gops-ability-force-gotcha-votes


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DK9292
01/04/21 4:31:54 PM
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Pus_N_Pecans posted...
That makes sense from a law making standpoint though. Not everyone fits into a gender binary. If they leave out non binary people, it makes it easier for those with ill intentions to deny their rights.
This. It's common fucking sense.

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Stewman_Magoo
01/04/21 4:35:35 PM
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skermac posted...
one source but its all over google
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-democratic-house-rules-gender-neutral-curtail-gops-ability-force-gotcha-votes

I already found it, I posted earlier when I did. Seems alright to me.

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The Wheelman1
01/04/21 4:38:25 PM
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They want to ban gender words yet different genders can't share the same restroom together. Lol this country has gone insane.

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harley2280
01/04/21 5:08:12 PM
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The Wheelman1 posted...
They want to ban gender words yet different genders can't share the same restroom together. Lol this country has gone insane.

Critical thinking isn't your strong point is it?
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mario2000
01/04/21 5:12:41 PM
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who cares

what impact does this have on your life

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harley2280
01/04/21 5:13:12 PM
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Conflict posted...
Pointless to ban those words outright. If you don't identify as a male or female then just don't use those words.

Not yours either I see.
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harley2280
01/04/21 5:18:28 PM
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Conflict posted...
harley2280 posted...


Not yours either I see.


If you actually had reading comprehension you'd know I was advocating for the usage of said non-binary gender neutral pronouns.

Yet you still missed the purpose and benefit for the ban.
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Tenlaar
01/04/21 5:18:50 PM
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Generally speaking, gendered language should be phased out as much as possible. Especially when it comes to laws or official government bodies gender should only be part of it when it's specifically applicable.
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SergeantGander
01/04/21 5:21:12 PM
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It is doubleplusgood

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UnfairRepresent
01/04/21 5:21:34 PM
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Sounds like avoiding the real issues to grandstand

"No abortion rights but we'll call you they instead of she"

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Hexenherz
01/04/21 5:22:21 PM
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DisgracefulSins posted...
And people wonder why birth rates are dropping.
Removing gendered nouns from legal documents has nothing to do with that.

And I'm OK with gender neutral terms, honestly makes documents less wordy anyway

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VIIVincent
01/04/21 5:26:11 PM
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Watch these get changed in the next decade because gen triple Z max is gonna get snowballed.

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andri_g
01/04/21 5:26:18 PM
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Garioshi posted...
I could not possibly care less.
You posted therefore you *could* care less, but if you didn't post we wouldn't know that this was a possibility.

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ultimate reaver
01/04/21 5:30:11 PM
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people can do what they want and it doesnt affect me negatively to make them more comfortable with themselves

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creativerealms
01/04/21 5:31:12 PM
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The banning isn't happening. People are freaking out over nothing.

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TheMikh
01/04/21 5:32:21 PM
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Darker Cheshire posted...
Makes more sense from the position of legalese.

ZEROWOLF posted...
Seems like it makes it more streamlined too. Less equivocation.

i concur with these posts

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_Rinku_
01/04/21 5:36:19 PM
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Seems like it'll just simplify/streamline a lot of legal documents.

A couple with two partners of the same gender? Now neither of them have to settle for being listed as the "wrong" title or being relegated to just a legal guardian.

Someone transitions? Now there's less chance of a document snarl happening when a database throws up their SSN under "son" for someone else.

Being mad about this just shows your own bigoted ass. This literally simplifies thing and has the added benefit of being inclusive.
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Heavy_D_Forever
01/04/21 5:40:13 PM
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Glad to see the democrats really tackling the most important issues America is dealing with right now!

/s

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mario2000
01/04/21 5:42:06 PM
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Heavy_D_Forever posted...
Glad to see the democrats really tackling the most important issues America is dealing with right now!

/s

Human rights are one of the most important issues in America currently, yes.

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Heavy_D_Forever
01/04/21 5:45:01 PM
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mario2000 posted...
Human rights are one of the most important issues in America currently, yes.
If you think words like father, mother, son, daughter, brother, mother-in-law, daughter-in-law" are violating your human rights then I can't even take you seriously.

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Dreepapult
01/04/21 5:46:30 PM
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Heavy_D_Forever posted...
If you think words like father, mother, son, daughter, brother, mother-in-law, daughter-in-law" are violating your human rights then I can't even take you seriously.
Do not engage. Mario is um, ya. I'm prob not allowed to say how I feel about him

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The Wheelman1
01/04/21 5:55:26 PM
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harley2280 posted...
Critical thinking isn't your strong point is it?
You really don't get it do you? Do you think its right to ban gender word the us humans have used since the beginning of time just because it hurts transgenders feeling? I don't think so.

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