Current Events > 98% of choices don't matter in Cyberpunk 2077

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Basically 2% of choices impact the story. Specifically theres a choice near the end of the game that essentially picks your ending, and thats all that matters

If you want to see the specifics this handy guide goes through it all but beware it contains spoilers throughout

SPOILERS: https://www.powerpyx.com/cyberpunk-2077-story-choices-guide/

What game do choices really matter except for those visual novels like the Walking Dead games?

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David1988 posted...

What game do choices really matter except for those visual novels like the Walking Dead games?

Uh, the Witcher 3? Fallout New Vegas, Divinity Original Sogn, Disco Elysium, Mass Effect, etc

Ahh the Bioware strategy

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Eh I played the Witcher 3 amd New Vegas, didnt feel like there were many choices that mattered. Mass Effect felt different though

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Yeah I was disappointed about this. That's if you're lucky enough to even get a choice in the first place. I know Fallout 4's dialogue options were meaningless as shit but at least you could be a sarcastic asshole if you wanted to be or be a nice guy if you wanted to be. In CP2077 you're just... V.

It's cool you can do stuff like make choices in side gigs but if they just end the same way regardless it makes me wonder why they bothered including them to begin with.

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David1988 posted...

Eh I played the Witcher 3 amd New Vegas, didnt feel like there were many choices that mattered. Mass Effect felt different though

Witcher series always had cool choices to make, and even if the choices were subtle they felt real if only because the outcome of quests would be different.

Been a while since I played New Vegas but the fact you could align with different factions was pretty meaningful imo. Also your character could resolve various conflicts through having different perks or skill checks.

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lol cue the part where people say they don't care about not having real choices

Hippocrates posted...

lol cue the part where people say they don't care about not having real choices

Is that strange? Lots of games don't have any choices at all. Obviously people are fine with that.

Unless this game was specifically marketed as one where your choices were significant. Then it's something to complain about.

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KeeperOfShadows posted...

Unless this game was specifically marketed as one where your choices were significant.

It was

KeeperOfShadows posted...

Is that strange? Lots of games don't have any choices at all. Obviously people are fine with that.

Unless this game was specifically marketed as one where your choices were significant. Then it's something to complain about.

Yes, it was advertised as a game where choices matter, having lasting consequences and can change the game world.

It's also a role playing game developed by a company known for making role playing games with more compelling writing and choices with consequences.

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JoeRodonExprien posted...

It was

Gotcha. Always sucks when games don't deliver.

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David1988 posted...

Eh I played the Witcher 3

Most of the choices in the witcher 3 change the adventure as it progresses and the ending you get, you either weren't paying attention, didn't really give a shit or you're lying.

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The hate boner for this game is ridiculous. That article... how theyve quantified choices that matter, for the main quest only btw, is subjective at best, and even then what game wouldnt have nearly almost all the dialogue options not make a significant choice? Like... Of course thats how it works, not every dialogue option can lead to a major choice.

And like I said, this is just for the main quest, theres PLENTY of choice in the side quests and surprisingly even in a lot of the gig missions.

Cookie Bag posted...

Most of the choices in the witcher 3 change the adventure as it progresses and the ending you get, you either weren't paying attention, didn't really give a shit or you're lying.

uh, theres like four or five major choices in the Witcher 3 and only 3 endings.

Grogu posted...

The hate boner for this game is ridiculous. That article... how theyve quantified choices that matter, for the main quest only btw, is subjective at best, and even then what game wouldnt have nearly almost all the dialogue options not make a significant choice? Like... Of course thats how it works, not every dialogue option can lead to a major choice.

And like I said, this is just for the main quest, theres PLENTY of choice in the side quests and surprisingly even in a lot of the gig missions.

Yeah but name a few choices in side missions that actually matter, too...

Like pretty sure your choice in Hippocratic Oath is entirely irrelevant.

I've failed two side gigs because I chose the wrong arbitrary dialogue choice, but chalk that up to bad writing -_-

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Ahh the Bioware strategy

LMFAO i was just about to say that!!!
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JoeRodonExprien posted...

Uh, the Witcher 3? Fallout New Vegas, Divinity Original Sogn, Disco Elysium, Mass Effect, etc

Your choices in New Vegas dont matter until the last quarter. The slate gets wiped clean by all major factions at a certain point

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Theres like 20 different endings to New Vegas based on all choices independent of your choice at Hoover Dam

not true. just about every choice has a major chance of a bug occurring or crashing your game.

To be fair 98% of your choices in real life don't really matter either

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David1988 posted...

Eh I played the Witcher 3 amd New Vegas, didnt feel like there were many choices that mattered.

Clearly you didn't play those games because that is bullshit.

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David1988 posted...

What game do choices really matter except for those visual novels like the Walking Dead games?

Ultima 4

dave_is_slick posted...

Clearly you didn't play those games because that is bullshit.

This

WilliamPorygon posted...

To be fair 98% of your choices in real life don't really matter either

Not if you're black and stopped by the cops.
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If you're just talking about changing the ending then Witcher 3 had 4 or 5 choices that mattered

Mass Effect had one

David1988 posted...

What game do choices really matter except for those visual novels like the Walking Dead games?

Nier Automata

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Blue_Inigo posted...

Your choices in New Vegas dont matter until the last quarter. The slate gets wiped clean by all major factions at a certain point

The NCR and Legion will both reset negative reputation for you once. That's literally it (and that's not super late in the game in most playthroughs).

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so it's like Deus Ex Human Revolution got it

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Eh people overstate how much your choices matter in New Vegas. I've played the shit outta that game. You get like one big choice and thats what faction you want to play as and then the game more or less plays out the same.

Plus, in cyberpunk you're not trying to shape the game world you're just trying to save V's life. If V was trying to unite gangs or run the city id care more about choices. Also, your choices in some missions affect the outcomes and difficulty in later missions.

The only game I've felt like my choices matter is Mass Effect because companions die as a result.

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I'm surprised at how defined V is as a protagonist. Don't really know why they even bothered with life paths. Most dialogue options in the game are just the 'more info' choices. It was weird how early on you had that blue dialogue option with the Ripper to talk about DeShawn and then the yellow option acts like they never had that conversation. So this isn't overly surprising.

It's just a weird game at times.

I'm saying that most voiced protagonists tend to have a similar issue and things generally are more railroaded.

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Cyberpunk 2077 is a game that promised way too much and caved in to the hype. Its a shame.

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"It don't matter. None of this matters."

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What's the point of this game even? It's not a good open world because the world is lacking in interactivity, and it's not a good rpg because it has very few choices that matter. It's not a great fps game either. What does it excel at besides bugs?

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David1988 posted...

What game do choices really matter except for those visual novels like the Walking Dead games?

Tyranny

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SSJKirby posted...

so it's like Deus Ex Human Revolution got it

Since I can't PM you...
Are there any good memes in Deus Ex HR?
@SSJKirby
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IndustrialTrudg posted...

What's the point of this game even? It's not a good open world because the world is lacking in interactivity, and it's not a good rpg because it has very few choices that matter. It's not a great fps game either. What does it excel at besides bugs?

The missions are really good and i liked the combat a lot. If you dont look at it as an RPG and more of an action game with stats then its solid. If you want a pure RPG then you wont find one. Its more Fallout 4 than New Vegas

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I4NRulez posted...

The missions are really good and i liked the combat a lot. If you dont look at it as an RPG and more of an action game with stats then its solid. If you want a pure RPG then you wont find one. Its more Fallout 4 than New Vegas

It sounds like I'd be better off playing Deus Ex tbh.

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IndustrialTrudg posted...

It sounds like I'd be better off playing Deus Ex tbh.

I mean I guess, if that's what you're looking for more. They're both great games, you could also play both.

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Interestingly enough the little thank you note thing they include with the box call it an action-adventure game.

The impression I have so far is that it's better to play it as a shooter than trying to stealth it.

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IndustrialTrudg posted...

It sounds like I'd be better off playing Deus Ex tbh.

Play both? Cyberpunk isn't bad it's just not perfect. If you're on PC I'd definitely recommend it now. If you're on console I'd wait a while

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TendoDRM posted...

I mean I guess, if that's what you're looking for more. They're both great games, you could also play both.

I4NRulez posted...

Play both? Cyberpunk isn't bad it's just not perfect. If you're on PC I'd definitely recommend it now. If you're on console I'd wait a while

I mean maybe if I had the money to even consider giving it a chance but I spent it on Doom Eternal and Hades.

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somebody summed it up perfectly in another thread. went something like

> Yes
> Yes but sarcastic
> Nomad/Street Kid/Corpo Yes

c h o i c e s

I went look back at some things that could have changed and I found out that there were different ways to go about certain events in Act 1. If I did something with a chip, I could have gotten a romance option and if I had chosen something different, I could have gone without combat.

It might not change the ending but damn, it changed certain events later on and that's what I like. I don't see where all the complaining is coming from on that front. For me, its not about the end, its about the journey and the fact that certain decisions allow me to see different results later in the game, I'm down.

dameon_reaper posted...

I went look back at some things that could have changed and I found out that there were different ways to go about certain events in Act 1. If I did something with a chip, I could have gotten a romance option and if I had chosen something different, I could have gone without combat.

It might not change the ending but damn, it changed certain events later on and that's what I like. I don't see where all the complaining is coming from on that front. For me, its not about the end, its about the journey and the fact that certain decisions allow me to see different results later in the game, I'm down.

Yeah, thats what i've been saying in posts about the issues. The changes are small depending on your actions. Since the world is just revolved arounds V's life. Its not changes that are going to change Night City as a whole.

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JoeRodonExprien posted...

Uh, the Witcher 3? Fallout New Vegas, Divinity Original Sin, Disco Elysium, Mass Effect, etc

bioshock

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I4NRulez posted...

Yeah, thats what i've been saying in posts about the issues. The changes are small depending on your actions. Since the world is just revolved arounds V's life. Its not changes that are going to change Night City as a whole.

Yeah, I agree. All of it seems very personal, its possible that we could get a sequel or a spin off which features more of Night City and Night City is just like any other setting a game(like Baldur's Gate). I like the small changes and I feel that's where the devs were going with it rather than trying to say that huge changes are made...i.e. using a nuke to destroy a whole city. >_>

SSJ2GrimReaper posted...

"It don't matter. None of this matters."

just say smith

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