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Shablagoo
12/17/20 11:08:33 AM
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SavageGlum100
12/17/20 11:21:01 AM
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FursonaNonGrata posted...
Its too bad that their risky financial investments arent working out. They should try to look for other, more stable sources of income.

So if all these landlords decide to up and leave, what happens to the renters? I think it's at least 40% (probably more) of U.S citizens who rent. That's one hell of a homeless situation that's going to happen if all landlords decide to call it quits all at once.
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s0nicfan
12/17/20 11:27:18 AM
#54:


SavageGlum100 posted...
So if all these landlords decide to up and leave, what happens to the renters? I think it's at least 40% (probably more) of U.S citizens who rent. That's one hell of a homeless situation that's going to happen if all landlords decide to call it quits all at once.

The people trying to get rid of landlords are only doing that as a step towards either government seizure/redistribution or a housing market collapse to make homes cheaper. It's creating a disaster so they can implement their preferred "fix".

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DemonBuffet
12/17/20 11:27:27 AM
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I can understand renting out a house. Two is pushing it.
But eight? They gambled on having steady income from tenants. A pandemic crisis is included in this equation and now they are at a net lost. Shit happens.

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nemu
12/17/20 11:35:27 AM
#56:


DemonBuffet posted...
I can understand renting out a house. Two is pushing it.
But eight? They gambled on having steady income from tenants. A pandemic crisis is included in this equation and now they are at a net lost. Shit happens.
One would expect protections for all areas, but instead we just got all this half-assed shit with no real structure. Just freezing rent and evictions is a horrible way to do it and overly burdens landlords. That should have come with actually giving something to the landlords who have to deal with that burden, but they're instead left high and dry as far as I've seen.
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bnui_ransder
12/17/20 11:36:32 AM
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nemu posted...
One would expect protections for all areas, but instead we just got all this half-assed shit with no real structure. Just freezing rent and evictions is a horrible way to do it and overly burdens landlords. That should have come with actually giving something to the landlords who have to deal with that burden, but they're instead left high and dry as far as I've seen.
Pretty much. There's a lot of other small costs that pile up quickly. People think 100% of rent is just straight into pocket.

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Zano
12/17/20 11:37:16 AM
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Whole lotta stupid in this topic.

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Son Of Spam
12/17/20 12:15:39 PM
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Maybe we should have been giving people more stimulus money so they could pay their rent.

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foreverzero212
12/17/20 12:17:32 PM
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Mark_DeRosa
12/17/20 12:19:17 PM
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Man. FUCK that landlord from Spider-Man 3

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iPhone_7
12/17/20 12:22:45 PM
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Landlords shouldnt exist. To hell with them and their greedy exploitation of others. #ALAB #BLM

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PoundGarden
12/17/20 12:34:01 PM
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Holy fuck it is painfully obvious who the kiddos are that dont (and probably never will) own land. Like, I am embarrassed for you entitled little sniveling children who seem to think housing should be free.

Grow
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Samurontai
12/17/20 12:37:07 PM
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People who hate landlords are probably worse if not just as bad, as people who think full blown socialism or communism is amazing. Basically people who have zero understanding on how the economy works, outside of what they read on Twitter.

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Shablagoo
12/17/20 12:45:28 PM
#65:


PoundGarden posted...
Holy fuck it is painfully obvious who the kiddos are that dont (and probably never will) own land. Like, I am embarrassed for you entitled little sniveling children who seem to think housing should be free.

Grow
The
Fuck
Up

Yes it is weird that landlords expect others to buy properties for them.


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bnui_ransder
12/17/20 12:46:14 PM
#66:


Its no use talking to people that won't think

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Veggeta X
12/17/20 12:46:50 PM
#67:


Samurontai posted...
People who hate landlords are probably worse if not just as bad, as people who think full blown socialism or communism is amazing. Basically people who have zero understanding on how the economy works, outside of what they read on Twitter.
BOTH SIDES

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Samurontai
12/17/20 12:48:00 PM
#68:


Veggeta X posted...
BOTH SIDES

Thats not a both sides situation my guy

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ButteryMales
12/17/20 12:50:09 PM
#69:


PoundGarden posted...
Holy fuck it is painfully obvious who the kiddos are that dont (and probably never will) own land. Like, I am embarrassed for you entitled little sniveling children who seem to think housing should be free.

Grow
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Fuck
Up
You're an adult who still doesn't know the bank still owns a mortgaged property.
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PoundGarden
12/17/20 12:52:40 PM
#70:


Shablagoo posted...
Yes it is weird that landlords expect others to buy properties for them.

You've made it crystal clear you do not understand how real estate works and re entitled af, we get it.

So going by your "logic", anyone who gets a mortgage is "just expecting banks to buy properties for them"?
Grow up and learn how the world works, junior. Maybe you'll actually own land some day instead of bitching about better men on a dying video game forum.

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Veggeta X
12/17/20 12:53:29 PM
#71:


Samurontai posted...
Thats not a both sides situation my guy
I know I was just playing

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JBaLLEN66
12/17/20 12:54:01 PM
#72:


Veggeta X posted...
Yeah I was planning on putting my money on renting out homes but now I might not wanna go that route.

everything is going to ****, me too :{

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PoundGarden
12/17/20 12:54:22 PM
#73:


ButteryMales posted...
You're an adult who still doesn't know the bank still owns a mortgaged property.

And you're an adult without reading comprehension. Feel free to point out where anyhting I said implied I dont understand that. I've bought 2 homes and own my current one outright (paid cash), I am quite familiar with the mortgage and real estate process. Oh and this should really piss you off: I sold my mortgages home for $80k over what I paid

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Shablagoo
12/17/20 12:54:42 PM
#74:


PoundGarden posted...
You've made it crystal clear you do not understand how real estate works and re entitled af, we get it.

So going by your "logic", anyone who gets a mortgage is "just expecting banks to buy properties for them"?
Grow up and learn how the world works, junior. Maybe you'll actually own land some day instead of bitching about better men on a dying video game forum.

Youve made it crystal clear you dont understand basic logic. If I buy someone a house, I bought them that house. No way around that.

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Socrawheeze
12/17/20 12:55:19 PM
#75:


PoundGarden posted...
I've bought 2 homes and own my current one outright (paid cash)
wow crazy this guy takes issue with some people itt
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PoundGarden
12/17/20 12:56:22 PM
#76:


Shablagoo posted...
Youve made it crystal clear you dont understand basic logic. If I buy someone a house, I bought them that house. No way around that.

That's literally not how it works. Math and economics isnt for everyone though, I'm sure you have at least one skill or talent.

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PoundGarden
12/17/20 12:58:06 PM
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Socrawheeze posted...
wow crazy this guy takes issue with some people itt

I do. Because instead of crying and bitching about the game I played it and won. 40 yrs old and I own a 3000 sqft Victorian outright and worked my ass off to get there, so you can fuck off with the implication I did it by landlording (not that theres anything wrong with that).

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Socrawheeze
12/17/20 12:59:10 PM
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lmao I love this guy where tf did he come from
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PoundGarden
12/17/20 12:59:33 PM
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It's beyond astonishing how many adults here want landlords abolished.
So.....who are you going to rent from? The government oh boyo, of you think John Q Landowner was bad, you dont know dick lmao

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Prismsblade
12/17/20 12:59:57 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Everyone is struggling but landlords are more likely to be greedy uncompassionate in these times than people renting.
The less fortunate and poor people of society are not inherently more compassionate, or generous then the rich and fortunate. Idk why people believe otherwise by default.

Its not a coincidence terrible individual's tend to up at the bottom.

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Shablagoo
12/17/20 1:01:39 PM
#81:


PoundGarden posted...
That's literally not how it works. Math and economics isnt for everyone though, I'm sure you have at least one skill or talent.

You owe $500/month in mortgage payments on your house. I give you $1,000/month, $500 of which you use to pay that mortgage each month.

Maths pretty simple there, not sure what you are missing.

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Will_VIIII
12/17/20 1:01:44 PM
#82:


jeffhardyb0yz posted...
philoktetes topic


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Veggeta X
12/17/20 1:02:32 PM
#83:


Prismsblade posted...
The less fortunate and poor people of society are not inherently more compassionate, or generous then the rich and fortunate. Idk why people believe otherwise by default.

Its not a coincidence terrible individual's tend to up at the bottom.
Very true as well.

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PoundGarden
12/17/20 1:05:44 PM
#84:


Shablagoo posted...
You owe $500/month in mortgage payments on your house. I give you $1,000/month, $500 of which you use to pay that mortgage each month.

Maths pretty simple there, not sure what you are missing.

Nope, you're still ignorant af if you seriously think a landlords only expense is paying the bank. Theres also insurance, repairs, maintenance, taxes etc that the tenant does not pay. Duh. Besides the fact there HAS to be some profit otherwise theres zero incentive to rent, none. Nobody works for free.
But do go on about the things I dont understand.

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Kyle1022
12/17/20 1:08:14 PM
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Who gives a shit, they're just glorified scalpers. This is the equivalent of "boohoo I bought ten PS5s and can't sell them someone feel bad for me :(((", just on a larger scale.

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PoundGarden
12/17/20 1:12:16 PM
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All the kiddos that clearly rent or live at home, why not be a part of the solution? Go put $30k down on a $150k property under a 15-30 yr mortgage. Oh and you'll also need about $6k for paperwork and closing costs. Oh and better have $10k in the bank at all times for emergency repairs. Oh and then rent it out at break even rates.
What's that? You dont have $36k and your credit is ass? Sounds like land ownership isnt for you.

LMAO at the kids that act like landlords just go out and buy a house on a larf for like $500 a month

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Will_VIIII
12/17/20 1:14:05 PM
#87:


DemonBuffet posted...
I can understand renting out a house. Two is pushing it.
But eight? They gambled on having steady income from tenants. A pandemic crisis is included in this equation and now they are at a net lost. Shit happens.
This is more or less my sentiment, and it's become a problem because it's become much much harder to find starter homes when people like this are buying them all up to rent out or airbnb.

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HelloImaPC
12/17/20 1:15:58 PM
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When people say landlords shouldn't exist, who would rent out places then?

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Veggeta X
12/17/20 1:16:49 PM
#89:


HelloImaPC posted...
When people say landlords shouldn't exist, who would rent out places then?
They mean to say people should live in houses for free.

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Shablagoo
12/17/20 1:19:12 PM
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Funniest thing is not only does The Father of Capitalism hate landlords, but the arguments against labor theory of value the econ 101 dropouts usually make are against the one that Smith made . . . . . . which Marx debunked in Capital, lol.

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FrankJaegr
12/17/20 1:19:19 PM
#91:


Shablagoo posted...
Youve made it crystal clear you dont understand basic logic. If I buy someone a house, I bought them that house. No way around that.

thats about as entitled as it gets lol

your dollar power ends the second it winds up in the hands of someone else, especially when you consider that you willingly gave it up

you hate that you cant claim those dollars so you say fuck all dollars, get rid of the dollar system
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ScazarMeltex
12/17/20 1:19:46 PM
#92:


Veggeta X posted...
They mean to say people should live in houses for free.
No. We mean people shouldn't buy up all the available housing for the purpose of renting it out because that creates housing scarcity, which then drives up the price of both rental and purchasable property. Which then prices people out of housing. But yes, please continue with your idiotic strawman. All people have to do is....get a fucking job instead of purchasing property for the purpose of making other people pay for it.

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FrankJaegr
12/17/20 1:20:46 PM
#93:


ScazarMeltex posted...
No. We mean people shouldn't buy up all the available housing for the purpose of renting it out because that creates housing scarcity, which then drives up the price of both rental and purchasable property. Which then prices people out of housing. But yes, please continue with your idiotic strawman.

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Ilishe
12/17/20 1:22:38 PM
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I can't believe people still respond to Shablagoo. Baffling.

And all of you landlord haters, I sincerely hope you get to experience real world communism for a few years.

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Veggeta X
12/17/20 1:24:45 PM
#95:


ScazarMeltex posted...
No. We mean people shouldn't buy up all the available housing for the purpose of renting it out because that creates housing scarcity, which then drives up the price of both rental and purchasable property. Which then prices people out of housing. But yes, please continue with your idiotic strawman. All people have to do is....get a fucking job instead of purchasing property for the purpose of making other people pay for it.
Maybe not what YOU mean but you need to read some of the other people here.

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PoundGarden
12/17/20 1:26:30 PM
#96:


Shablagoo posted...


Funniest thing is not only does The Father of Capitalism hate landlords, but the arguments against labor theory of value the econ 101 dropouts usually make are against the one that Smith made . . . . . . which Marx debunked in Capital, lol.

Funniest thing is you people dont have an answer to "who will you rent from then" LMAO. As I said, eliminate the private sector and that leaves the government. And I've neeeeeever heard anyone bitch about government housing, I hear that's the tops

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Shablagoo
12/17/20 1:27:38 PM
#97:


Veggeta X posted...
Maybe not what YOU mean but you need to read some of the other people here.

No, its a stupid strawman that capitalists propagated to get weak-minded sycophants on their side who will support their robbing.

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Musourenka
12/17/20 1:32:03 PM
#98:


I really don't care much about the plights of landlords and property companies beyond the extent it affects tenants.

And if you are in a position to own eight properties, you're not middle class.

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PoundGarden
12/17/20 1:39:23 PM
#99:


Musourenka posted...
I really don't care much about the plights of landlords and property companies beyond the extent it affects tenants.

And if you are in a position to own eight properties, you're not middle class.

True, but look at it this way: that's 8 families that now have a place to live. Otherwise those 8 properties would just be bank owned and vacant until someone buys them. Regardless of how people feel about landlords, fact is they do create more options for renters by putting rental properties on the market

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Socrawheeze
12/17/20 1:40:22 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
True, but look at it this way: that's 8 families that now have a place to live. Otherwise those 8 properties would just be bank owned and vacant until someone buys them. Regardless of how people feel about landlords, fact is they do create more options for renters by putting rental properties on the market
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PoundGarden
12/17/20 1:42:05 PM
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Socrawheeze posted...
lmao best new gimmick on ce

I mean, that's literally how it works

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