Current Events > UK: China has broken HK treaty; considering sanctions

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https://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews1/idUKKBN27S1E4

Britain on Thursday said China had broken its main bilateral treaty on Hong Kong by imposing new rules to disqualify elected legislators in the former British colony, cautioning that it would consider sanctions as part of its response.

The British flag was lowered over Hong Kong when the colony was handed back to China in 1997 after more than 150 years of British rule - imposed after Britain defeated China in the First Opium War.

Hong Kongs autonomy was guaranteed under the one country, two systems agreement enshrined in the 1984 Sino-British Joint Declaration signed by then Chinese Premier Zhao Ziyang and British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

Beijings imposition of new rules to disqualify elected legislators in Hong Kong constitutes a clear breach of the legally binding Sino-British Joint Declaration, Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said.

China has once again broken its promises and undermined Hong Kongs high degree of autonomy.

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Do itttttt

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its gonna be hard to stop China tbh

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The whole world needs to cut off China somehow. Cheap slave labor goods isn't worth it.

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nice

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LightHawKnight posted...

The whole world needs to cut off China somehow. Cheap slave labor goods isn't worth it.

We Swedes welcome an ally against the Chinese Government.



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Good. China needs to be knocked down a few pegs.

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SPOILER: the UK ain't gonna do shit

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We're considering sanctions
30 seconds later
We've considered it, and no sanctions.

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They haven't just broken the treaty, they've torn it up, eaten the pieces, shit it out, then set fire to the shit.
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LightHawKnight posted...

The whole world needs to cut off China somehow. Cheap slave labor goods isn't worth it.

Good luck convincing the corporate overloads of that.

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Crono99 posted...

Open full diplomatic relations with Taiwan and threaten an embargo on any country that doesn't recognize Taiwan's independence.

Time to play hardball with Jinping.

And suddenly, Taiwan gets steamrolled by the CCP military.

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I do agree that the CCP is pure evil that needs to be stopped. But the pessimist in me feels that they're just too strong to be challenged by anyone, even America.

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china just needs to continue denying everything like US denies their war crimes and everything will be fine

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Solar_Crimson posted...

Good luck convincing the corporate overloads of that.

You're starting to see movement in that area because stability has value that can overcome a difference in production costs:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/princeghosh/2020/09/18/the-exodus-of-chinese-manufacturing-shutting-down-the-worlds-factory/

For modern US companies, both startups and giants alike, supply chain risk has been top of mind. Companies are diversifying their supply chains to mitigate risks earlier and earlier in their production cycles, leaving no risk of being caught empty handed for the next global pandemic.

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BalanceLost posted...

We Swedes welcome an ally against the Chinese Government.

that's worse than Japan's and the US's view of China what the hell

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FL81 posted...

that's worse than Japan's and the US's view of China what the hell

There are several reasons. Their human right violations and pure evil in general and this case more personally for the nation:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gui_Minhai


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I have a hard time believing the country desperate for trade agreements is going to sabotage anything with China, no matter how right they would be to do it.

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China has become the world's douchebag. Cut them at the knees.

Yeah, I will take that seriously if it ever happens and isn't a show of "maybe we'll do something"

Boris is fucking us over hard, so destroying another trade agreement seems unlikely, doubly so given it's the Tories and they don't actually give a single fuck about people.

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Any day now the entire world will tell China to go fuck itself. Until then, we'll just have politicians and corporations pretending to care, and people on all sides using China support as a cudgel against their rivals.

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hockeybub89 posted...

Any day now the entire world will tell China to go fuck itself.

Very optimistic of you

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We are so past the point of being able to sanction China that it's funny they even consider this a threat. 3% of the global economy can't threaten 15%. The UK doesn't even have bargaining power through the EU anymore.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

We are so past the point of being able to sanction China that it's funny they even consider this a threat. 3% of the global economy can't threaten 15%. The UK doesn't even have bargaining power through the EU anymore.

Oh are you pretending to be British now? Or are you admitting you're a Brit who pretends to be an American Democrat?

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Phynaster posted...

Oh are you pretending to be British now?

are you ok rebel

Phynaster posted...

Oh are you pretending to be British now? Or are you admitting you're a Brit who pretends to be an American Democrat?

bro what?

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Idk, him referring to it as "we" made it seem like he was referring to the UK and not the world at large.

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Oh no, not sanctions! What next, will UK become very very angry with China, and write them a letter telling them how angry they are?

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Phynaster posted...

Idk, him referring to it as "we" made it seem like he was referring to the UK and not the world at large.

Poor reading comprehension on your part might be a more likely scenario than me pretending to be british all of the sudden for no reason at all

Broseph_Stalin posted...

Poor reading comprehension on your part might be a more likely scenario than me pretending to be british all of the sudden for no reason at all

Ambiguous wording on your part. And you already pretend to be a democrat!

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Poor reading comprehension on your part might be a more likely scenario than me pretending to be british all of the sudden for no reason at all

The use of we does make it seem like you are saying you are part of Britain though. "They" would make more sense otherwise.

But w/e, your point remains true and Britain can't really do anything alone so hopefully the rest of the world joins in with them. Not that I think it is going to stop China and with Covid getting out and around isn't going to be easy.

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Phynaster posted...

And you already pretend to be a democrat!

Dohoho, voting democrat in every single election for 10+ years to convince people I'm a democrat, delightfully devilish seymour!

Funkydog posted...

Britain can't really do anything alone so hopefully the rest of the world joins in with them.

Even a collective effort won't make sanctions work at this point. When you're that big sanctions are just mutually assured destruction.

The best way to handle China is to isolate them by creating massive trading blocs that they aren't a part of, shifting bargaining power away from them. This is what Obama tried to do with the TPP but Trump and progressives ended up sabotaging it because they can't pass an economics class.

China owns the UK and makes most of the drugs the UK relies on.

I want them to stand against it but they won't

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Even a collective effort won't make sanctions work at this point. When you're that big sanctions are just mutually assured destruction.

The best way to handle China is to isolate them by creating massive trading blocs that they aren't a part of, shifting bargaining power away from them. This is what Obama tried to do with the TPP but Trump and progressives ended up sabotaging it because they can't pass an economics class.

Maybe, I fully admit I lack the knowledge of what would be effective or not, but anything won't be easy or fixed anytime soon.

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Funkydog posted...

Maybe, I fully admit I lack the knowledge of what would be effective or not, but anything won't be easy or fixed anytime soon.

it's more complicated than that

for starters TPP was awful for America For 2. China manufactures half the drugs the world relies on.

We literally rely on them and cant simply "do trading blocs without them because I took an economics class!"

Not to mention we're in debt to them

China is simply too big and interconnected to "cut out"

The US is too but China even more so

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Would be nice but I doubt it