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The Trent 11/10/20 4:53:34 PM #1: |
unstable, intel pc:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HyTPXb stable, amd pc: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N2hkTJ i have major stability problems with the intel pc insomuch as i can't get it to reboot it starts up fine, mostly, though it often just does the reboot result as well upon reboot it never restarts i often can see bios but can't get to windows fans start and lights start and then things kinda shut off but sometimes fans keep running or something i don't know what's happening i've updated all the drivers that i can and i'm using a 65" 4k tv as my monitor sidenote: i bought both of the 3080s 2nd-hand, but i don't think the asus 3080 (the intel 3080) is shot for any reason, how would i tell really? the amd pc went so easily, every was really smooth and it kills everything i try to do handily it was fun and made me want to do another but now it's like frustrating and not working out --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nfearurspecimn 11/10/20 4:55:39 PM #2: |
I am in no way an expert, but maybe you have either bad RAM or a bad PSU or motherboard.
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The Trent 11/10/20 4:57:06 PM #3: |
could that still be the case if i have gotten everything up and running perfectly at points?
like i played 30 minutes of ac origins at ultra high settings and about 80 fps until i decided to quit, not a crash but it did stutter a bit in a way the amd computer just doesn't at all --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cawmaster5 11/10/20 4:58:07 PM #4: |
sounds like not enough psu power, or a bad one
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Giant_Aspirin 11/10/20 4:58:22 PM #5: |
might be overheating? the stuff where the lights / fans come on but then it dies before BIOS reminds me of what happened when my CPU was overheating. in my case the CPU's heat sink was clogged to shit with dust/dirt. i cleaned it out and it started right up next time. the 'reboot' issue may simply happen because the machine was on long enough to get hot. what if you let it sit on for a while, then shut down + start instead of "reboot"?
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nfearurspecimn 11/10/20 4:59:03 PM #6: |
cawmaster5 posted...
sounds like not enough psu power, or a bad oneactually yeah I change my answer to this, especially if you got it to work fine before --- Wake up. You have to wake up. currently a preta (hungry ghost) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 11/10/20 4:59:12 PM #7: |
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/h7Nypg/thermaltake-toughpower-grand-rgb-850w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpg-0850fpcgus-r
this is the psu do you mean like defective? 850w isn't enough to just boot to windows without everything failing? --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 11/10/20 4:59:31 PM #8: |
also /r/buildapchelp
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The Trent 11/10/20 5:00:24 PM #9: |
Giant_Aspirin posted...
might be overheating? the stuff where the lights / fans come on but then it dies before BIOS reminds me of what happened when my CPU was overheating. in my case the CPU's heat sink was clogged to shit with dust/dirt. i cleaned it out and it started right up next time. the 'reboot' issue may simply happen because the machine was on long enough to get hot. what if you let it sit on for a while, then shut down + start instead of "reboot"? when i have things up and running i checked the nzxt cam software monitor thing and it's putting the cpu at an easy 35* after the aforementioned ac origins test i don't THINK it's overheating... --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 11/10/20 5:00:24 PM #10: |
The Trent posted...
do you mean like defective? 850w is definitely enough. if the PSU is the culprit it's not working 100% of the time --- Playing: Dead Cells; Remnant: From the Ashes Streets of Rage 4; You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 11/10/20 5:00:43 PM #11: |
Giant_Aspirin posted...
also /r/buildapchelp ugh i may have to sign up for reddit to make this work i guess --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 11/10/20 5:01:19 PM #12: |
when you "reboot" are you doing it via software (ie Windows) or via hardware (special button on the case)? if the latter, double-check that it's wired up correctly. if software, i got nothing else rn
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The Trent 11/10/20 5:01:24 PM #13: |
i feel like it's a possible windows incompatibility of some kind?
how do i fix or know that? but i guess that wouldn't explain the times i can't even get bios to show? --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 11/10/20 5:01:56 PM #14: |
Giant_Aspirin posted...
when you "reboot" are you doing it via software (ie Windows) or via hardware (special button on the case)? both don't work sometimes to the point when i go over and button push it to die, i still can't button push it back on i'll have to pull the psu cord for a sec then push button again --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 11/10/20 5:03:28 PM #15: |
do you have a PSU tester? i ended up buying one for like $20 a long time ago and it's been handy to debug stuff like this, it'll let you test all connections coming out of the PSU to verify they all provide the correct voltage / etc
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MixedRaceBaby 11/10/20 5:03:35 PM #16: |
AMD baby aww yeah
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The Trent 11/10/20 5:04:22 PM #17: |
Giant_Aspirin posted...
do you have a PSU tester? i ended up buying one for like $20 a long time ago and it's been handy to debug stuff like this, it'll let you test all connections coming out of the PSU to verify they all provide the correct voltage / etc i do not is it possible that i've fucked up my wiring of the power sources? or would that cause an auto-always-fail type scenario? --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 11/10/20 5:05:41 PM #18: |
The Trent posted...
i do not i dont think the wiring being bad would explain the inconsistencies. i have noticed inconsistencies when my PSU isn't working right. when that was happening, it would work sometimes and not others (was flaky) edit: im not an expert on this stuff by any means which is why ive been trying to make non-assertive statements like "i think" and "maybe". im just relaying my experiences which may be anecdotal here. --- Playing: Dead Cells; Remnant: From the Ashes Streets of Rage 4; You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 11/10/20 5:05:46 PM #19: |
MixedRaceBaby posted...
AMD baby aww yeah honestly i'm feeling this way the intel shit isn't functioning without lots of homework and when it was functioning, it was wayyy behind the amd machine i also built it's very possible though that it's just heavily me and i can't get it firing on all cylinders because it's more technical to do so with the intel chip and/or the difference in the msi vs asus motherboards/bios --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 11/10/20 5:06:01 PM #20: |
Pull one of the RAM sticks, see what happens.
If nothing changes, swap them and see what happens. The Trent posted... i'll have to pull the psu cord for a sec then push button again...or maybe the PSU is defective. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 11/10/20 5:08:07 PM #21: |
At least it looks good? =( --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kingdrake2 11/10/20 5:19:00 PM #22: |
i had something happen some time ago. bad Ram can cause a computer to shut off unexpectedly without a blue screen.
putting in 2 new sticks solved it. --- Explorers In The Further Regions Of Experience, demons to some, Angels To Others: Pinhead ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 11/10/20 5:20:51 PM #23: |
is it possible then that i fucked up something in the bios settings for ram or something else that's throwing me off?
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Abiz_ 11/10/20 5:32:43 PM #24: |
It's sounding like a psu problem, but if you used a auto-overclocking feature. It could explain it also.
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MarthGoomba 11/10/20 5:37:56 PM #25: |
Thermaltake PSUs are the absolute worst garbage you can get
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Darmik 11/10/20 5:42:56 PM #26: |
My computer was wonky for a whole because I think one of the hard drives wasn't getting enough power. When I rebuilt it that issue was completely resolved.
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The Trent 11/10/20 9:48:23 PM #27: |
i just played 45 minutes of football manager 2019 and then tried to run some userbechmark stuff but the GPU wouldn't complete the sphere test for some reason? then when i turned it off to start again i couldn't get back to fucking windows
what the fuck gives --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Sonic 11/10/20 9:51:34 PM #28: |
Maybe take the CPU out of the socket and see if the socket has any bent pins.
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The Trent 11/10/20 9:55:40 PM #29: |
Solid Sonic posted...
Otherwise it could be the motherboard you chose to use. what does this mean and how would i go about fixing it? --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Sonic 11/10/20 9:56:32 PM #30: |
It just means the motherboard you used is mediocre and maybe the BIOS it uses isn't stable.
You'd really only be able to get a different motherboard to get around that. --- "It feels like I'm always wrong." "Nah, that's not true...I mean you just made that statement, didn't you?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 11/10/20 9:57:16 PM #31: |
is it true that the motherboard i chose is just not great?
am i clear on what you're saying? it seemed pretty highly rated? --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 11/11/20 8:13:14 AM #32: |
i shall take my problem next to tom's hardware forums because that seems reasonable to me
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teepan95 11/11/20 8:15:19 AM #33: |
Best of luck dude
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The Trent 11/11/20 8:20:17 AM #34: |
i guess if worse comes to worse i'll just ship the motherboard and chip back to amazon and switch for amd since i have no stress with that
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Cobra1010 11/11/20 8:26:37 AM #35: |
Some ram sticks are power hungry. Mine was giving me blue screen a lot until I upped the voltage and its been fine since.
I think it's the A-die or the B-die ones. You should Google your motherboard model with your ram and see if anyone else has the same problem and hopefully you find the solution. --- Now is the hour! Riders of Rohan! Oaths you have taken, now fulfill them all, to lord and land! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 11/11/20 8:28:08 AM #36: |
Cobra1010 posted...
Some ram sticks are power hungry. Mine was giving me blue screen a lot until I upped the voltage and its been fine since. so you're saying I may need to get in bios and up the ram voltages? sounds scary --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FabIe 11/11/20 8:31:00 AM #37: |
Take the RAM out of the amd pc and put it in the Intel one. If you get the same issue then swap PSUs. If you get the same issue then it's the motherboard or cpu. Also rgb power supplies are a meme.
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The Trent 11/11/20 8:33:09 AM #38: |
FabIe posted...
Take the RAM out of the amd pc and put it in the Intel one. If you get the same issue then swap PSUs. If you get the same issue then it's the motherboard or cpu. Also rgb power supplies are a meme. okay i'll try this i bought the RGB power supply because i thought my girls would dig it the one i built with intel has RGB stuff in it for them, the amd one i built for my office is just a monster and RGB is incidental --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FabIe 11/11/20 8:41:29 AM #39: |
RGB power supplies are just funny because most PCs have PSU shrounds to hide them.
Yours is an exception of course because of the open design of the case. --- The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 11/11/20 8:42:24 AM #40: |
yeah if i can get this fucker to work, i think i'm eventually going to mount it on the wall in the movie room so it'll be a good display
it looks perfect...just don't wholly unreliable --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alucard188 11/11/20 8:42:51 AM #41: |
The Trent posted...
The case has no intrinsic aesthetic, so if it's not full of rainbow puke, it looks bad. Rainbow puke also looks bad. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 11/11/20 8:43:36 AM #42: |
Alucard188 posted...
The case has no intrinsic aesthetic, so if it's not full of rainbow puke, it looks bad. Rainbow puke also looks bad. well i think it looks great, buddy --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FabIe 11/11/20 8:44:54 AM #43: |
The Trent posted...
yeah if i can get this fucker to work, i think i'm eventually going to mount it on the wall in the movie room so it'll be a good display If you do that I'm sure there are plenty of people that wouldnt mind taking one of those 3080s off your hands. --- The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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teepan95 11/11/20 8:45:43 AM #44: |
I'll pay you 50$ to take that 3080 off of your hands, buddy
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The Trent 11/11/20 8:46:04 AM #45: |
oh i won't give up on it completely, i'll just swap out the intel parts for amd parts and expect an easier situation
getting the 3080s was already enough --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 11/11/20 8:46:25 AM #46: |
teepan95 posted...
I'll pay you 50$ to take that 3080 off of your hands, buddy i only accept dogecoin --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dorfmann_ 11/11/20 8:54:32 AM #47: |
I had a similar thing happen when I put new RAM in my computer. It would work fine, but after shutoff, it wouldn't boot. I'd unplug it and then it would work fine, but wouldn't boot the next time. I put the RAM in the other paired slots and it's worked fine ever since. It might be worth it to try that. Just make sure the RAM is running at full frequency if it does boot.
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teepan95 11/11/20 8:58:15 AM #48: |
The Trent posted...
teepan95 posted...I'll pay you 50$ to take that 3080 off of your hands, buddy Would you do it for a Scooby snack? --- teep dumb as f*** fr - BatmanvonDoom I'm gonna pound a 400 lb woman just to prove teep wrong - NigerianKnight ... Copied to Clipboard!
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