Current Events > If the electoral college is abolished, would Republicans ever win again?

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This country is progressing, like it or not. Young voter turnout is only increasing. If the United States went purely on popular vote, I dont see a Republican winning for a very long time, at least not until an entire party rebranding was done and a fresh candidate was presented.

Even with it odds are pretty low of them winning again.

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no

Hard to say, we don't know how many Republicans don't vote in safe blue states because they're vote wouldn't matter with the EC.

I think they can still win.

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They can only win with voter supression, which they are trying their damndest to do.

Even with the electoral college Republicans pretty much need to cheat to win, so without it theyre definitely ****ed

Republicans set their own demise when they started slurping off billionaires, defunding education, and denying science so they can continue short term profits. Short sighted morons.

Yes. It would be harder but not implausible.

Imagine a dem as unlikable as Hillary against a legitimately charismatic republican.

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VitalGetPrank posted...

Hard to say, we don't know how many Republicans don't vote in safe blue states because they're vote wouldn't matter with the EC.

I think they can still win.

The flip side of that is that more left-leaning voters would be more motivated to vote without the electoral college.

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youngins will go red once they actually move out of mommy and daddys house.

dawiseone4 posted...

youngins will go red once they actually move out of mommy and daddys house.

Isnt it usually the opposite?

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give it another decade and they'll never win a presidential election again with the current system in place, not without changing their party on a fundamental level.

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They would certainly never win the House of Representatives again, at least not without the party entirely reforming. They would probably still win the Senate from time to time, and would definitely still be able to take presidencies. Less often though

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Assuming the democrats completely blow out the congressional elections, republicans might just never win big again. This year was a census year meaning the Democrats get to redo the district lines and ungerrymander everything.

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At some point there would be some concessions to increase their majority appeal
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dawiseone4 posted...

youngins will go red once they actually move out of mommy and daddys house.

Jokes on you, conservative and neoliberal policies are stopping people from moving out!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-millennials-are-living-at-home-than-at-any-other-time-this-century/

Experts say the unaffordable housing market is keeping millennials at home, rather than a failure by millennials to hold jobs or launch careers.

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monkmith posted...

give it another decade and they'll never win a presidential election again with the current system in place, not without changing their party on a fundamental level.

Also, this. Probably more like 20 years but once the boomers are mostly gone the Republican party won't have a base.

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They'd most likely slightly shift to strictly courting rural population votes. The split between urban and rural is pretty close so they'd still be in the game.

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LightHawKnight posted...

Isnt it usually the opposite?

It's both.
There's that period from 20-35 or so where everyone seems better off and it's all you can do to afford ramen and cigarettes.
Then, once you get better off, you begin to be how much of your productivity is being diverted away so that someone else can have ramen and cigarettes.

Not in the current state of their so called political party, no.

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Even if that were the case, its still not enough. The Republican party has to be abolished directly, and its adherents harshly and unfairly (if necessary) punished.

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They wouldnt. Which would be good for the country.

spoiler alert, doing anything practical is anti-American and will never happen.

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Wouldn't matter - we'll have a new two-party system with the progressives breaking off from the Democrats and the centrists allying with conservatives.

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If California became its own country, would Democrats ever win again?

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Maybe. Theres no telling how people would act if everyones votes mattered. Its possible that theres a huge amount of Republican voters in blue states that just dont bother voting.

presumably the republicans would eventually adapt and change something

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I assume they, like any reasonable political party, would make efforts to appeal to a majority of voters.
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dawiseone4 posted...

youngins will go red once they actually move out of mommy and daddys house.

that... isn't how it works. the idea that older people are more conservative is Survivor Bias

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Yes, because the two parties have been trading power for nearly 200 years and you'd have to be incredibly naive to believe Republicans will just vanish like that.

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If the electoral college was abolished many states would leave because it's a crummy deal for them