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Patchwork
10/27/20 11:22:43 AM
#154:


I am not at all surprised at the tone of this thread.

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Crescente
10/27/20 11:24:17 AM
#155:


The_Scarecrow posted...
https://youtu.be/9mzPj_IaMzY

Wow, that's cool. The US should try this.
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voldothegr8
10/27/20 11:24:18 AM
#156:


Sad_Face posted...
I'd hate to be a cop right now. Can't even defend yourself without starting a riot nowadays smh

How about don't be a cop if you're going to be afraid of entering and handling dangerous situations. Shooting anyone should be an absolute last resort and this situation wasn't close to last resort.
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tabmoW_droL
10/27/20 11:25:02 AM
#157:


Patchwork posted...
I am not at all surprised at the tone of this thread.
Agreed, I'd love to see what it'd look like had the guy been white/latino/asian/whatever.

Likely 3-4 posts and it'd be forgotten.

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Blue_Inigo
10/27/20 11:25:36 AM
#158:


Sad_Face posted...
I'd hate to be a cop right now. Can't even defend yourself without starting a riot nowadays smh
I'd hate to be a cop because that would make me part of a system that upholds systemic racism in this country and a slave to the elites.

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scar the 1
10/27/20 11:27:41 AM
#159:


voldothegr8 posted...
How about don't be a cop
I think this is the most solid advice I would give to everyone frankly

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DirkDiggles
10/27/20 11:27:59 AM
#161:


I'm for holding accountability, but come on. People faulting the police for this shooting must have their blinders on. This guy was going towards the police with a knife. Fair, next.

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Shablagoo
10/27/20 11:28:31 AM
#162:


The_Scarecrow posted...
https://youtu.be/9mzPj_IaMzY

All the bootlickers ITT can shut the f*** up now that this video has been posted.


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Chris_Traeger
10/27/20 11:30:12 AM
#163:


Pretty scary to live in a country where the police can shoot you just because you're trying to kill them.
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Shablagoo
10/27/20 11:33:53 AM
#164:


Chris_Traeger posted...
Pretty scary to live in a country where the police can shoot you just because you're trying to kill them.

Yeah, indeed it is. In normal countries the police dont kill people for having a psychotic episode. Again, watch the fucking video:

https://youtu.be/9mzPj_IaMzY

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voldothegr8
10/27/20 11:35:08 AM
#165:


Chris_Traeger posted...
Pretty scary to live in a country where the police can shoot you just because you're trying to kill them.

What's really scary is all the trigger happy pussies on the police force
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The_Korey
10/27/20 11:37:17 AM
#166:


Shablagoo posted...
All the bootlickers ITT can shut the f*** up now that this video has been posted.

Yeah no. There are 8 officers in that vid, 0 bystanders, and the knife guy had nowhere to even run. The hell were 2 guys with guns supposed to do in the middle of the road with bystanders everywhere? Wait half an hour for the shield men to show up an hope no one gets attacked in the mean time?

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Chris_Traeger
10/27/20 11:38:06 AM
#167:


voldothegr8 posted...
What's really scary is all the trigger happy pussies on the police force

You never know these days with cops, you can be minding your own business trying to stab them and the next thing you know, you're dead. Chilling.
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Shablagoo
10/27/20 11:38:19 AM
#168:


The_Korey posted...
Yeah no. There are 8 officers in that vid, 0 bystanders, and the knife guy had nowhere to even run. The hell were 2 guys with guns supposed to do in the middle of the road with bystanders everywhere? Wait half an hour for the shield men to show up an hope no one gets attacked in the mean time?

No one got attacked until the police showed up. Stop licking boots so hard.

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NinjaWarrior455
10/27/20 11:39:56 AM
#169:


The_Korey posted...
Yeah no. There are 8 officers in that vid, 0 bystanders, and the knife guy had nowhere to even run. The hell were 2 guys with guns supposed to do in the middle of the road with bystanders everywhere? Wait half an hour for the shield men to show up an hope no one gets attacked in the mean time?
If it takes that long to safely take in the man then yeah. Or use anything else they had on their person to attempt to deescalate the situation besides literal guns.

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Unsugarized_Foo
10/27/20 11:40:34 AM
#170:


Shablagoo posted...
All the bootlickers ITT can shut the f*** up now that this video has been posted.

Not every scenario is going to have a legion of riot shields in time to avoid disaster.

However if every cop was a samurai, as I mentioned before, every cop could have a reverse blade sword and subdue an inferior bladesman

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scar the 1
10/27/20 11:44:46 AM
#171:


Unsugarized_Foo posted...
However if every cop was a samurai, as I mentioned before, every cop could have a reverse blade sword and subdue an inferior bladesman
Nah, they'd be bloodthirsty maniacs doing wanton killing as soon as someone triggers their PTSD. It'd be better if justice was maintained by masterless wanderers who have vowed to never kill anyone

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viewmaster_pi
10/27/20 11:45:22 AM
#172:


first you say "what rings you got, bitch!" then just parry the guy with the knife, get naked, and do the pointing down emote

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PokemonYoutube
10/27/20 12:01:12 PM
#173:


This is the fairest of nexts. If you don't wanna get shot, don't charge at cops while holding a knife. I don't see how anyone could blame the cops in this situation.

And of course the people in Philadelphia see this as a nice excuse to go get themselves some new kicks or a new TV for free. Typical.

nfearurspecimn posted...
Did they not even order him to put the weapon down and give him a chance to do so?
I can hear them telling him to put the knife down at least three times.
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Rebel_Patriot
10/27/20 12:02:27 PM
#174:


Blue_Inigo posted...
I'd hate to be a cop because that would make me part of a system that upholds systemic racism in this country and a slave to the elites.
Try having an original thought

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DevilZhouYu
10/27/20 12:08:12 PM
#175:


Stores are being boarded up here in NE Philly as a precaution because of the looting.

Fucking hell, man.
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Shablagoo
10/27/20 12:15:06 PM
#176:


The_Korey posted...
Yeah no. There are 8 officers in that vid, 0 bystanders, and the knife guy had nowhere to even run. The hell were 2 guys with guns supposed to do in the middle of the road with bystanders everywhere? Wait half an hour for the shield men to show up an hope no one gets attacked in the mean time?

Tell me how many police are in this video:

https://youtu.be/cznNf2LUk74


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The_Scarecrow
10/27/20 12:17:04 PM
#177:


The_Korey posted...
Yeah no. There are 8 officers in that vid, 0 bystanders, and the knife guy had nowhere to even run. The hell were 2 guys with guns supposed to do in the middle of the road with bystanders everywhere? Wait half an hour for the shield men to show up an hope no one gets attacked in the mean time?

The UK cops figured out how to deal with situations like these without resorting to killing a mentally unstable man. Why can't American cops do the same? If I call the police fearing for my son's life because he's mentally unstable and is experiencing an episode, I expect the police to respond appropriately and not kill him. That's not why I, or anyone else, called them. We call for the person to be helped. We don't call for them to be killed. The idea behind the core values of the police force is to "Protect and Serve". Even the mentally unstable deserve to be helped. Their life is just as valuable. This man in the UK wielding the machete kept his life and hopefully got help. Walter Wallace Jr. didn't receive that even though he deserved it just as much as any other human being experiencing some sort of mental episode.

If non-American police forces can figure this shit out, then the American police can, too. There are no excuses for what happened to Walter. The United States needs to do better.

Nobody can say this is "fair" or "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" or anything of that foolishness. If you genuinely believe that, please open a window on your computer and educate yourself regarding mental health. A man who needed help just lost his life. The conversation shouldn't be about "the officers were justified" because that gives them a pass which leads to this same situation happening over and over again. The conversation should be about what our officers need to do in order obtain a better outcome whether it be better de escalation training or learning how to properly address a situation involving mentally ill people or coming up with alternate methods to neutralize an aggressor without killing them. Use this tragedy to prevent further tragedies.

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nfearurspecimn
10/27/20 12:17:53 PM
#178:


PokemonYoutube posted...
I can hear them telling him to put the knife down at least three times.
at this point I think the tension and anger must be at a boiling point for them to riot over a justifiable shooting. we need to show everyone that something is being done to better train officers and have specialized social workers.

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Number090684
10/27/20 12:25:28 PM
#179:


This is what happens when you don't respect and just yield to authority. You're basically playing a dangerously foolish game with your life on the line. If a cop is pointing a gun, or even a tazer my way, I'm not moving unless they tell me to and even then it's with the utmost care. That one guy commentating in the video complaining about the cops lighting that guy up is naive, because that's what cops are trained to do to threats. Unload on them until they go down and can no longer pose a threat, and if it gets to that point I'm sure they have no qualms about utterly ending you if you step out of line, and are more than happy to send you to the morgue if you give them the littlest reason to so they don't have to deal with your problematic ass anymore. Complaining that cops repeatedly shoot to kill when the situation has escalated is like complaining that birds fly or fish swim.

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CyricZ
10/27/20 12:30:15 PM
#180:


Of course it can be done.

Of course de-escalation is something that can work.

It's something we could make a priority as a society.

We've just chosen not to.

And this is the result.

Shooting him was the best choice because this is America, where we shoot people.

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Number090684
10/27/20 12:46:05 PM
#181:


vigorm0rtis posted...

Perfect image to summarize Trump's America.

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TheSuperLotion
10/27/20 12:55:07 PM
#182:


Savages looking for any excuse to riot again. Come at police with a knife, you are going to get shot. Obviously. Posthumous Darwin award for this one
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darkprince45
10/27/20 12:56:59 PM
#183:


Shablagoo posted...
Tell me how many police are in this video:

https://youtu.be/cznNf2LUk74

this subject ran from the police, thats why they took them down. He had their back turned. Unlike this one where the threat is literally walking towards them lol.

and how dangerous was this. Imagine right now being throw in a pit with an old school wooden baton and theres a man armed with a knife. Look how terrified they are to get close and swing a wooden stick. Such a stupid and dangerous thing


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RustyFerret
10/27/20 12:57:22 PM
#184:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2yTRaID_2k

How the cop should have reacted.
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BeyondWalls
10/27/20 12:57:57 PM
#185:


CADE FOSTER posted...
shooting to wound are options
Literally not an option and never should be.

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voldothegr8
10/27/20 12:59:18 PM
#186:


darkprince45 posted...
Such a stupid and dangerous thing

Yes that's what cops sign up for, they shouldn't sign up if they fear dangerous situations
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darkprince45
10/27/20 1:05:58 PM
#187:


voldothegr8 posted...
Yes that's what cops sign up for, they shouldn't sign up if they fear dangerous situations

Nobody said that? Stupid and dangerous dont have to be together. Engaging in close range Star Wars battles with a knife and you have a baton is the stupidest fucking thing. They got lucky the guy began to run away.

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MyWifeBeatsMe
10/27/20 1:07:40 PM
#188:


This isn't like the George Floyd case. This guy was ARMED with a knife and charged at the police. The police only did what was necessary.

This is a classic case of

Fair, next.

People are just looking for an excuse to riot at this point.
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BeyondWalls
10/27/20 1:14:45 PM
#189:


MyWifeBeatsMe posted...
charged at the police.
Disputed.

It looks to me like he was waving the knife warning the cops to back off. He wasnt charging toward them.

You could make the argument that he could have charged back into the crowd and stabbed a bystander and the cops wouldnt have been able to stop him if they waited.

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JimmyFraska
10/27/20 1:16:37 PM
#190:


Fuck the police.

This is going to help Trump tremendously.
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El Mexicano Texano
10/27/20 1:19:57 PM
#191:


They both should have shot him once that's enough to stop/drop him not unload on the guy.

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crowkillers
10/27/20 1:20:16 PM
#192:


Shablagoo posted...
All the bootlickers ITT can shut the f*** up now that this video has been posted.

Considering all of the talk of defunding the police, I don't think that the US is going to send 16 cops out with riots shields for 1 guiy.
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FursonaNonGrata
10/27/20 1:22:32 PM
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Phynaster
10/27/20 1:30:18 PM
#195:


Lets see if @TheSuperLotion gets anything more than a slap on the wrist for white supremacist shitposting

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BeyondWalls
10/27/20 1:57:28 PM
#196:


El Mexicano Texano posted...
shot him once, not unload on the guy

In a stressful situation almost no one fires one bullet. Theres been documented instances of homeowners emptying entire clips before they even knew what happened. Its also very questionable if one bullet to the chest would even stop a determined attacker, most seem to agree that it wont. Thats why cops fire multiple rounds to the chest, not just one.

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RamboCell29
10/27/20 2:04:43 PM
#197:


"Allegedly" with a knife? Videos show clearly he moved toward cops at close range armed with a knife.

Don't try to stab police officers and you won't be shot...

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Hornswoggled
10/27/20 2:12:06 PM
#198:


I would have shot that guy too.
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SquirtleSkwad
10/27/20 2:15:02 PM
#199:


darkprince45 posted...
why would you use less lethal when someone has a lethal weapon. Within 10ft
You seem to be absolutely clueless on what the police force is supposed to do.

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SquirtleSkwad
10/27/20 2:16:02 PM
#200:


BeyondWalls posted...
In a stressful situation almost no one fires one bullet. Theres been documented instances of homeowners emptying entire clips before they even knew what happened. Its also very questionable if one bullet to the chest would even stop a determined attacker, most seem to agree that it wont. Thats why cops fire multiple rounds to the chest, not just one.
And yet, stress tolerance is supposed to be ingrained into their whopping six months of training.

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postcall
10/27/20 2:23:02 PM
#201:


How do you have time to riot? Do they not have jobs?
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justaguy3492
10/27/20 2:26:13 PM
#202:


To anyone who thinks he was "charging" please go outside and get some exercise. I assure you; to most people his pace was a brisk walk at most.

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Shablagoo
10/27/20 2:36:08 PM
#203:


RamboCell29 posted...
Don't try to stab police officers and you won't be shot...

Uhhh....what? Thats demonstrably untrue.

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darkprince45
10/27/20 2:39:51 PM
#204:


SquirtleSkwad posted...
You seem to be absolutely clueless on what the police force is supposed to do.
Ive sat through hundreds of hours of police training, Ive traveled to classes for tactics. No tactics except BAD and UNSAFE tactics would let go in 10 feet range with an armed person. You are clueless

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