Current Events > The President, on the suburbs

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https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1293682512288526341
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and yet nobody will do anything about having a racist as the fucking POTUS.

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Oh
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@The_Trent still fuzzy?

donald trump is subhuman

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damn. im black and i just moved out of the city and into a suburb

i dont wanna go back :(

im voting for joe

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CruelBuffalo posted...

@The_Trent still fuzzy?

i don't even know what he was going for on this one, it's typical trump lunacy
it doesn't sound positive, i'm having a hard time thinking of reasonable reasons why you'd keep a headcannon that lowers that kind of statistic
this one's looking pretty racist

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The dog whistle got replaced a long time ago it's just a full blown megaphone now.

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Imagine supporting trump

So did he ever answer the actual question (how will Biden cause an invasion)?

I was watching when he said this. He was pointing out that 35% of suburbanites are minorities, but he uses 30% (and 30% plus) to be sure the media doesn't say he was wrong about the number.

The tweet alludes he wants to cut the amount of people of color in suburbia. But that's not what he's saying.

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Ruvan22 posted...

So did he ever answer the actual question (how will Biden cause an invasion)?

Yes, absolutely

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hockeybub89 posted...

Yes, absolutely

What was the answer? It isnt in that tweet.

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meralonne posted...

What was the answer? It isnt in that tweet.

Oh sorry. I was just mocking how the Trump campaign has used Biden saying "yes, absolutely" as a soundbite

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Ahh

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CrimsonRage posted...

putting this in the vault next time someone says trump isn't racist

Like I said, the tweet is misleading. He's not saying he wants to cut the number of people of color in the suburbs.

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Houston posted...

Like I said, the tweet is misleading. He's not saying he wants to cut the number of people of color in the suburbs.

funny how everyone sees the truth in his words save you.

Houston posted...

Like I said, the tweet is misleading.

The response is anything but. How is Biden going to destroy or invade the suburbs? Is he going to send in Federal agents without badge numbers in unmarked vehicles to drag people out of the streets for the crime of not kowtowing to the regime?

Oh wait, thats Trump.


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Did he literally say he wants less minorities in suburbia?

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Veggeta_MAX posted...

Did he literally say he wants less minorities in suburbia?

even he's not that stupid. you republicans and your excuses.

meralonne posted...

The response is anything but. How is Biden going to destroy or invade the suburbs? Is he going to send in Federal agents without badge numbers in unmarked vehicles to drag people out of the streets for the crime of not kowtowing to the regime?

Oh wait, thats Trump.

He said they want to bring more lower income people into suburban areas due to their alleged claim there are not enough people of color living in suburbia. But if 35% are people of color, that would seem to be consistent with the racial makeup of the U.S. According to Wiki, 61.5% of people in the U.S. are White non-hispanic.

He says suburban areas are places where people worked to get into and doesn't want to see property values decrease and increase of crime due to lower income being brought in.

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Houston posted...

He says suburban areas are places where people worked to get into and doesn't want to see property values decrease and increase of crime due to lower income being brought in.

Oh, so he blew his dog whistle again? Got it.

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Poop2 posted...

even he's not that stupid. you republicans and your excuses.

Still living in lala land where I'm a racist?

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I've lived in the suburbs my entire life, from Clinton to Bush to Obama to Trump, I've noticed zero differences. They aren't that special, they're boring. Come one, come all I say.

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I don't like the lipstick on that woman of color.

Houston posted...

He said they want to bring more lower income people into suburban areas due to their alleged claim there are not enough people of color living in suburbia. But if 35% are people of color, that would seem to be consistent with the racial makeup of the U.S. According to Wiki, 61.5% of people in the U.S. are White non-hispanic.

He says suburban areas are places where people worked to get into and doesn't want to see property values decrease and increase of crime due to lower income being brought in.

A) But Trump didn't say any of that... his immediate next sentence/clause was about racial makeup.
B) If we grant that's what Trump was referring to, does Trump believe more minorities "destroys" neighborhoods?

Ruvan22 posted...

A) But Trump didn't say any of that... his immediate next sentence/clause was about racial makeup.
B) If we grant that's what Trump was referring to, does Trump believe more minorities "destroys" neighborhoods?

1) After the question was asked, he did not immediately bring up racial makeup. He mentioned they are going to "open up" and "expand" the neighborhoods. Then he said "and just so you understand" (and proceeded to provide racial data). This is because the topic has been brought up before, and apparently he claims that the Dems claim there aren't enough people of color in suburbia (if we go off of 35%, then the number of people of color seems to be consistent with the U.S. demographics)
2) He specifically mentioned low income. Would you agree low income areas have more crime, regardless of racial makeup? If so, would you agree bringing in more lower income individuals to an area would result in more crime in that area? If not, why?

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It's absolutely so sad how people feel the need to debase themselves for Trump like Houston

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Veggeta_MAX posted...

Still living in lala land where I'm a racist?

Youre projecting

Doom_Art posted...

It's absolutely so sad how people feel the need to debase themselves for Trump like Houston

At least Trump isn't spending much money on shoe polish these days.

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Poop2 posted...

Youre projecting

Hm so now you're denying what you accused me of. Very nice.

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Here's the full text.



Why do you think he brought up the high amount of minorities @Houston ?

Why do you think he felt he needed to say a low number to avoid being attacked by the "fake news" instead of just saying what he thought was accurate?

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"Minorities are poorer per capita than white people and are statistically not the majority. Therefore, saying blacks are dirty and criminals and that there shouldn't be too many of them in suburbia is a factual statement."

It really sucks that idiots figured out what statistics are. Too dangerous of a power for the stupid.

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action52 posted...

Here's the full text.



Why do you think he brought up the high amount of minorities @Houston ?

Trump has mentioned, and been asked about, this whole zoning issue of opening up areas in suburbia to lower income housing. From my understand and from what I've heard Trump talk about in the past, the reasoning behind the Dems wanting to do this is to have a higher number of people of color in suburban neighborhoods. Allegedly, the Dems say there aren't enough people of color in suburbia. He brought up the percentage to highlight the fact that there is already a representation of people of color in suburbia. If 35% is true, then that is consistent with US racial makeup.

Why do you think he felt he needed to say a low number to avoid being attacked by the "fake news" instead of just saying what he thought was accurate?

I'm not sure where he is getting his figure from. He says "they say", so I'm not sure who "they" is. It's something he commonly does because he claims if he's not completely accurate, the "fake news" will blow it out of proportion and say "Trump was completely wrong!". I think this talking piece about being accurate about the numbers was more of him just trying to CYOA.

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Houston posted...

1) After the question was asked, he did not immediately bring up racial makeup. He mentioned they are going to "open up" and "expand" the neighborhoods. Then he said "and just so you understand" (and proceeded to provide racial data). This is because the topic has been brought up before, and apparently he claims that the Dems claim there aren't enough people of color in suburbia (if we go off of 35%, then the number of people of color seems to be consistent with the U.S. demographics)
2) He specifically mentioned low income. Would you agree low income areas have more crime, regardless of racial makeup? If so, would you agree bringing in more lower income individuals to an area would result in more crime in that area? If not, why?

1) I'm going by the tweet - "They're going to destroy suburbia. And 30 percent of the people in suburbia are minorities.", the second sentence is *directly* about race. If Trump (in this interview) expanded as you claim, please provide the full transcript.
2) Again, in this tweet Trump doesn't mention low income, only race. Again, if we grant that Trump was referring to a Democrat claim that there weren't enough minorities in the suburbs, that does not necessarily indicate low income - the Obama regulations Trump rolled back were specifically about discrimination, NOT income.
3) You are conflating "low income neighborhoods" with "low income families". I agree the former does have problems, but that is often due to systemic issues of underfunded schools, low access to proper food, negative police presence, etc. Having low income families move to the suburbs (which again wasn't what he stated) is akin to low income families having access to magnet schools - unless that is "destroying" them as well.

Houston posted...

It's something he commonly does because he claims if he's not completely accurate, the "fake news" will blow it out of proportion and say "Trump was wrong!".

That's not what he's doing though. He's intentionally going lower than what he says he thinks is accurate. This makes no sense as an explanation.

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Ruvan22 posted...

1) I'm going by the tweet - "They're going to destroy suburbia. And 30 percent of the people in suburbia are minorities.", the second sentence is *directly* about race. If Trump (in this interview) expanded as you claim, please provide the full transcript.
2) Again, in this tweet Trump doesn't mention low income, only race. Again, if we grant that Trump was referring to a Democrat claim that there weren't enough minorities in the suburbs, that does not necessarily indicate low income - the Obama regulations Trump rolled back were specifically about discrimination, NOT income.
3) You are conflating "low income neighborhoods" with "low income families". I agree the former does have problems, but that is often due to systemic issues of underfunded schools, low access to proper food, negative police presence, etc. Having low income families move to the suburbs (which again wasn't what he stated) is akin to low income families having access to magnet schools - unless that is "destroying" them as well.

Someone just now posted the transcript above (user action52), so you can review and revise your questions to me if you have any more. I told you from the beginning that tweet is misleading and you should not have based your questions on the tweet.

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Now Im picturing Joe Biden, wearing his patented sunglasses, rolling in with oodles of helicopters to the tune of the Flight of the Valkyries, just bombing the ever loving shit out of American suburbs lmao

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Ruvan22 posted...

You are conflating "low income neighborhoods" with "low income families". I agree the former does have problems, but that is often due to systemic issues of underfunded schools, low access to proper food, negative police presence, etc. Having low income families move to the suburbs (which again wasn't what he stated) is akin to low income families having access to magnet schools - unless that is "destroying" them as well.

The kind of people that are nodding in agreement with Trump see all poor people as those of questionable character that have chosen to congregate in low-income areas. Poverty is seen as the natural state of these people, or a punishment for their weak attempts at winning life. It's as if poor people are the architects of poverty rather than the victims of it.

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Ruvan22 posted...

Having low income families move to the suburbs (which again wasn't what he stated) is akin to low income families having access to magnet schools - unless that is "destroying" them as well.

Also that is literally how the suburbs were created. A bunch of houses were built then sold super cheap with low interest loans, to make it easier for low income people to move into them. But it was written into the rules that only white people could move there.

So helping low income families move to the suburbs is literally using them for the reason they were originally created, minus the racism.

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action52 posted...

That's not what he's doing though. He's intentionally going lower than what he says he thinks is accurate. This makes no sense as an explanation.

I can agree on this specific point. Not sure why he would go lower instead of higher given the context. Could very well be a misstep. I think he's just tired of some members of the media saying he completely lied about something when he wasn't very far off to begin with. But because it wasn't 100% accurate, headlines come out that "Trump lied"

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Doom_Art posted...

It's absolutely so sad how people feel the need to debase themselves for Trump like Houston

I point out inaccurate and misleading tweets when I see them. This is one of them. It alludes the reader to believe Trump wants to lower the number of person of color from suburbia. I'm surprised Antifar posted it, he probably wouldn't have if he watched the actual press conference.

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This is just the Republicans platform, Trump is just dumb enough to say it plainly

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Houston posted...

I point out inaccurate and misleading tweets when I see them.

No you make a fool of yourself making excuses for and reinterpreting things said by a mentally unstable billionaire who has no idea you even exist.

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Houston posted...

Someone just now posted the transcript above (user action52), so you can review and revise your questions to me if you have any more. I told you from the beginning that tweet is misleading and you should not have based your questions on the tweet.

When I wrote the post, Action 52 had not posted the transcript. Having read it, my second and third question still stands:
Houston:After the question was asked, he did not immediately bring up racial makeup. He mentioned they are going to "open up" and "expand" the neighborhoods. Then he said "and just so you understand" (and proceeded to provide racial data). This is because the topic has been brought up before, and apparently he claims that the Dems claim there aren't enough
Ruvan22: Again, if we grant that Trump was referring to a Democrat claim that there weren't enough minorities in the suburbs, that does not necessarily indicate low income - the Obama regulations Trump rolled back were specifically about discrimination, NOT income.

Houston: He specifically mentioned low income. Would you agree low income areas have more crime, regardless of racial makeup? If so, would you agree bringing in more lower income individuals to an area would result in more crime in that area? If not, why?
Ruvan22: You are conflating "low income neighborhoods" with "low income families". I agree the former does have problems, but that is often due to systemic issues of underfunded schools, low access to proper food, negative police presence, etc. Having low income families move to the suburbs (which again wasn't what he stated) is akin to low income families having access to magnet schools - unless that is "destroying" them as well.

Feel free to clarify your and Trump's position/statement as even the full transcript seems to conflate minorities and low income