Current Events > For those that want to abolish police altogether. What's the game plan?

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DemonBuffet
07/14/20 10:32:11 PM
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lets say law enforcement agencies are completely abolished.
whats the next step?


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Sabram
07/14/20 10:34:47 PM
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I don't think there is a plan beyond that.

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St0rmFury
07/14/20 10:35:18 PM
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Cowboy town.

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DemonBuffet
07/14/20 10:54:56 PM
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Sabram posted...
I don't think there is a plan beyond that.

Part of the BLM demands are to also end all jails and correctional institutions. So how are people held accountable to murdering one another?

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Duncanwii
07/14/20 10:57:38 PM
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They dont have one. They're letting hatred block their common sense and if they thought past their prejudices theyd realize why their ideas are asinine.
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pogo_rabid
07/14/20 10:59:01 PM
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They know they wont succeed so they don't need a plan. Anyone advocating for this is being disingenuous so they can act shitty, or has brain damage.

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vigorm0rtis
07/14/20 10:59:53 PM
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Is that actually anyone's plan?

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legendary_zell
07/14/20 11:12:07 PM
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I probably shouldn't respond to this seriously considering the tone that's already been set in this topic but here we go. Police abolitionists want to create a world where social issues are addressed up front, rather than on the back end through violence. They generally have a world view that says crime is literally the most extreme evidence of a social failure, such as a failure to house people, a failure to educate people, a failure to provide a real chance at economic success, a failure to provide drug treatment etc. Police in that world view are a tool the state and a dysfunctional/oppressive society uses to uphold these unjust practices and criminalize and imprison people who are considered disposable or who transgress in any way that upsets dominant social groups. Not unrelatedly, they trace the history of police back to slave patrols, forward to union busters, then to the infiltration and oppression of civil and economic rights groups throughout the late 19th and all of the 20th century.

They think that instead of having people with the unique function and authority to use violence to "control" social problems, we just address those problems directly. Considering the history and function of police in their view, they are fundamentally illegitimate. So all the resources that go towards them and more should be shifted towards addressing the root causes of crime: economic insecurity and ethically bankrupt culture. So police are defunded and there is a massive reinvestment in mental health/healthcare, housing, education, the environment, increased economic power for workers, and other important issues. This decreases crime so substantially that there can be a shift away from punitive solutions and toward a justice system focused on personal and community rehabilitation and restitution and connecting people with the resources they need to go down a better path when they do stray.

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CADE FOSTER
07/14/20 11:12:46 PM
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Everyone has a gun strapped to their hip we go back to the wild wild west
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defnotanth0ny
07/14/20 11:20:12 PM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
Is that actually anyone's plan?

lol no, but ce gonna' ce:

grasp for straws toward their bias in the age of information-over-abundance

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defnotanth0ny
07/14/20 11:32:05 PM
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Poop2
07/14/20 11:32:16 PM
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Care Bears
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Irony
07/14/20 11:32:53 PM
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Next step is

???

Followed by

Profit

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IShall_Run_Amok
07/14/20 11:35:24 PM
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Replace them with something that isn't foundationally and functionally designed to protect the power and entitlements of rich people, the government, and their own self from the rights and needs of everyone else, but is instead designed to promote the well being of the people and communities, with emphasis on crime prevention, de-escelation, and public service. After purging the existing police force and justice system of criminal elements with great prejudice and severity, of course. That's a good start.


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FL81
07/15/20 12:09:29 AM
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end the state's monopoly on the use of force and replace with private security services

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