Current Events > Fox News achieves peak gaslighting, says Trump never called Mexicans rapists

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https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/fox-news-achieves-peak-gaslighting-trump-never-called-mexican-rapists-1027329/

When Donald Trump announced that he was running for president in June of 2015, he made it extremely clear what he thought about immigration and, in particular, Mexican immigrants. But if you tuned into Fox News on Friday, you would have witnessed a gaslighting for the ages.

Most of the panel on the Fox News program The Five either shook their heads no or voiced an objection when co-host Juan Williams spoke the easily searchable truth that Trump called Mexican immigrants entering the country rapists during his presidential announcement speech.

And if youre talking about who likes division, President Trump pushes buttons of division and polarization, quite regularly, Williams said. I think youll remember he started his campaign by going after Latin immigrants. He said Mexicans were rapists and thieves.

Co-hosts Greg Gutfeld, Jesse Watters, and Jeanine Pirro all shook their heads in disagreement, while some repeated, No, [Trump] didnt. And Watters tried to downplay the severity of the presidents past racist remarks by reminding the Fox audience that Trump also said, some [Mexicans] are good people.

https://twitter.com/brooklynmutt/status/1282084505961013249

Fox News hosts angling for Trump during campaign season isnt surprising. What is surprising, however, is where the Trump-supporting hosts have chosen to plant this particular flag and how their off-the-cuff dishonesty seemingly comes so naturally when they are defending the president.

The infamous clip of Trump degrading Mexican immigrants while announcing his bid after descending from the Trump Tower escalator in 2015 was a viral moment at the time, and the media and Trumps detractors have referenced it ever since. Trump often doubled down on the racist claim and only weeks later tweeted that Mexicans are not our friend. Theyre killing us at the border.

But if Williams wants to follow-up with his sycophant co-hosts and attempt to prove to them that Trump did indeed say what Williams (and the rest of the world) knows, maybe he can refer them to 2018 Trump.

While discussing his stance on the possibility of caravans traveling from Central America to the U.S., 2018 Trump remembered his own 2015 racism very well.

Remember my opening remarks at Trump Tower, when I opened, everybody said, Oh, he was so tough, and I used the word rape. And yesterday, it came out where, this journey coming up, women are raped at levels that nobody has ever seen before. They dont want to mention that, Trump said.

And because this article is stupid and didn't actually include his original quote, here's what he said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/06/16/full-text-donald-trump-announces-a-presidential-bid/

Thank you. It's true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we're getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They're sending us not the right people.

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Faux News

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"The right didn't do this to Obama."

Yeah they did. They spent months/years pushing that he wasn't fucking American.

Fuck Fox News. Fuck Republicans that allow this bullshit to happen.
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Foxnews must be labaled an enemy of the state all they do is lie constantly

lmao, she actually invoked wife beaters.

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I'm sure all the NPCs and other brainwashed morons are making sure to update their programming to reflect this new line of bullshit.

We were always at war with Eastasia.

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Back in my day we just called that lying

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we are more at war with the media than we are any other country

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If you criticize Trump you're a wife-beater.
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If Trump actually continues to wear a mask in public, by the time September / October rolls around they'll be denying that he ever refused to wear them in the first place. And their viewership will eat it up.

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GregShmedley posted...

In all honesty, I never understood this.

To me, in the clip, it sounds like he's saying "They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime, their rapists." Like, it sounds like he's listing them versus randomly saying "they're rapists!" It just makes more sense to me and it sounds like that.

And I say this as someone who hates Trump, his garbage supporters, and would vote for used toilet paper if it was the Dem nominee.

It's the fact that he made it sound like the Mexican government was specifically and intentionally sending criminals into the US. Or that illegal immigrants are *all* rapists and killers.

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GregShmedley posted...

In all honesty, I never understood this.

To me, in the clip, it sounds like he's saying "They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime, their rapists." Like, it sounds like he's listing them versus randomly saying "they're rapists!" It just makes more sense to me and it sounds like that.

And I say this as someone who hates Trump, his garbage supporters, and would vote for used toilet paper if it was the Dem nominee.

What's the difference?
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GregShmedley posted...

In all honesty, I never understood this.

To me, in the clip, it sounds like he's saying "They're bringing drugs. Tey're bringing crime, their rapists." Like, it sounds like he's listing them versus randomly saying "they're rapists!" It just makes more sense to me and it sounds like that.

And I say this as someone who hates Trump, his garbage supporters, and would vote for used toilet paper if it was the Dem nominee.

I might have entertained that possibility if that entire statement wasn't followed with "some, I assume, are good people".

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Foxnews like Trump doesnt understand that video always exists of Trump saying everything he is accused of

Greg defending Trump calling Mexicans rapists. What a surprise.

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GregShmedley posted...

You're not wrong. I just remember it being the focal point when it came out and I didn't understand it. Still don't.

Why does it make a difference if he said "[Mexicans] are rapists", or "A significant portions of Mexicans illegally in the US were sent there by the Mexican government in an attempt to get rid of their rapists"?
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Tmaster148 posted...

Greg defending Trump calling Mexicans rapists. What a surprise.

yep

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DeadBankerDream posted...

Why does it make a difference if he said "[Mexicans] are rapists", or "A significant portions of Mexicans illegally in the US were sent there by the Mexican government in an attempt to get rid of their rapists"?

dont even bother they move the goalposts all the time

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The problem is that that line, like almost all of his speech, is crude, disrespectful and demonstrates his racist tendencies.

A better educated and wiser politician would comment on illegal immigration in a different manner. Perhaps drawing attention to the fact that it's dangerous for the people involved, that they potentially face issues with getting health care when they do arrive in the country, stuff like that. Not just say "we don't want them because they're a bunch of rapists".

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When Trump says they're rapists, he doesn't mean they're rapists and he cannot grasp how you could misunderstand him in such a way.

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Bass_X0 posted...

When Trump says they're rapists, he doesn't mean they're rapists and he cannot grasp how you could misunderstand him in such a way.

Trump supporters will jump through hoops to tell us what he really meant its laughable at this point

Not that you're disagreeing, just trying to point out why it was such an inflammatory comment to make, especially from a presidential candidate.

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I just watched the movie Gaslight for the first time. It was delightful.

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And I watched Gotham By Gaslight.

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Bass_X0 posted...

And I watched Gotham By Gaslight.

Literally just read that comic last week, lmao

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I hate her.

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