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MachineJaipur
07/13/20 12:12:28 AM
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Do you care that their name is offensive?


I refuse to say their actual name
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HylianFox
07/13/20 12:18:09 AM
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The Washington Woodteeth

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bknight
07/13/20 12:30:46 AM
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Should be called Washington Rednecks, still racist, still all about red skins, but now it's about white people, Native Americans no longer mad, liberals laughing at the name that makes fun of whities and the rednecks are proud.
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I Like Toast
07/13/20 12:32:46 AM
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Why would I care about white people being offended on behalf of native Americans who repeatedly vote they don't find the name offensive when polled and the team is only changing because white people got the white advertisers to tell the white owner to change it?

The only thing offensive about the redskins is Dan synder and the onfield team for the better part of the last 20 years. Sports teams, casinos, Thanksgiving and a couple weeks of American history class is about the only times native Americans get any attention in modern America.

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Purple_Cheetah
07/13/20 12:59:54 AM
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It'd be honestly amusing imo, if they just call em Washington Skinheads.

Redskins > native americans > scalping connections > skinning the top of a head > to scalp is to skin heads

It would only be a great troll/backfire stunt. It also gets to keep the word skin in the name, so there's gotta be a budget saving somewhere.
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TheGoldenEel
07/13/20 1:04:14 AM
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I personally know multiple native people who find it offensive

how about instead of arguing that only 50% of natives find it offensive or some shit we notice that none of the other nfl team names offend anyone whatsoever and thats the baseline we should strive for?

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Anteaterking
07/13/20 1:07:22 AM
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I moved to Maryland a few years ago and I turned down free stuff from a Washington game because I didn't feel comfortable with having it around my house.

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muchdran
07/13/20 1:10:48 AM
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Its offensive, Washington state should be changed too.
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Accolon
07/13/20 1:10:50 AM
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They should just change their mascot to a redskin potato.


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Wasssup Now
07/13/20 1:15:27 AM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
I personally know multiple native people who find it offensive

how about instead of arguing that only 50% of natives find it offensive or some shit we notice that none of the other nfl team names offend anyone whatsoever and thats the baseline we should strive for?

Im not saying the team name isn't offensive but that seems like a bad idea. Minnesota is gonna end up having to change their name next.
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Distant_Rainbow
07/13/20 1:16:32 AM
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Given the scumminess of Snyder, I'm actually half-expecting him to change it to something with an even more offensive nuance, in defiance.

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TheGoldenEel
07/13/20 1:20:57 AM
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Wasssup Now posted...
Im not saying the team name isn't offensive but that seems like a bad idea. Minnesota is gonna end up having to change their name next.
You have not presented a compelling argument of why changing a team name from a racial slur to something that is not a racial slur is a bad idea

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MrToothHasYou
07/13/20 1:20:59 AM
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HylianFox posted...
The Washington Woodteeth
Yeah... about that...

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CADE FOSTER
07/13/20 1:28:38 AM
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Washington whiteskins see if the white folks like it just a pale white dude on the helmet
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SevenTenths
07/13/20 1:33:16 AM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
You have not presented a compelling argument of why changing a team name from a racial slur to something that is not a racial slur is a bad idea

probably because he didn't say anything about the redskins changing their name or not, but in your faulty logic.

Also, I can say TheGoldenEel is a racial slur. You should change your name. >0 people are offended by your name. By your logic, you now have to change it.

When native Americans were polled twice over a 12 year period of time and both times came back 90% don't find it offensive. White people saying THIS IS OFFENSIVE TO NATIVES, doesn't really mean anything.

the groups that care the most about the names of sports teams, are the same ones who get almost all of their donations from people for that "cause". So what's more likely, there's this large angry group of natives and it's just a conspiracy that polling never reflects it...or there's a small group who saw a way to capitalize on white guilt in the wake of the actually offensive caricatures that were many teams named after natives. Just like Dan Synder isn't changing the name because he had a sudden change of heart, he's changing it over money. Always follow the money.

You can already hear the rumblings turning towards the Chiefs once the Redskins do officially change their name. After of course the fine white people like yourself take your victory lap for your great victory!

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Scotty_Rogers
07/13/20 1:35:55 AM
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Washington Warriors

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Wasssup Now
07/13/20 1:45:36 AM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
You have not presented a compelling argument of why changing a team name from a racial slur to something that is not a racial slur is a bad idea

I don't plan to. When the team was named it wasn't meant as a racial slur it now is. We as a society like to make things racist that aren't. Bringing attention to the okay sign recently is a great example of how something in just 2 years can be turned racist. I'm for eliminating racism not creating it
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Guerrilla Soldier
07/13/20 2:16:44 AM
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teams change brands and logos all the time

not sure why you wouldn't rebrand unless you're trying to prove a point, whatever point that may be

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One_Day_Remains
07/13/20 2:20:17 AM
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SevenTenths posted...


probably because he didn't say anything about the redskins changing their name or not, but in your faulty logic.

Also, I can say TheGoldenEel is a racial slur. You should change your name. >0 people are offended by your name. By your logic, you now have to change it.

When native Americans were polled twice over a 12 year period of time and both times came back 90% don't find it offensive. White people saying THIS IS OFFENSIVE TO NATIVES, doesn't really mean anything.

the groups that care the most about the names of sports teams, are the same ones who get almost all of their donations from people for that "cause". So what's more likely, there's this large angry group of natives and it's just a conspiracy that polling never reflects it...or there's a small group who saw a way to capitalize on white guilt in the wake of the actually offensive caricatures that were many teams named after natives. Just like Dan Synder isn't changing the name because he had a sudden change of heart, he's changing it over money. Always follow the money.

You can already hear the rumblings turning towards the Chiefs once the Redskins do officially change their name. After of course the fine white people like yourself take your victory lap for your great victory!


Do you just coast through day-to-day life being the biggest crybaby you can possibly be?

You are actually a living and breathing male Karen
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Anteaterking
07/13/20 11:23:41 AM
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Wasssup Now posted...
Im not saying the team name isn't offensive but that seems like a bad idea. Minnesota is gonna end up having to change their name next.

Vikings refers to a historical group of people. Redskin does not.

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Obstacle2
07/13/20 11:24:08 AM
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bknight posted...
Should be called Washington Rednecks, still racist, still all about red skins, but now it's about white people, Native Americans no longer mad, liberals laughing at the name that makes fun of whities and the rednecks are proud.
this but unironically

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HylianFox
07/13/20 11:27:04 AM
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remember the heat the Cleveland Indians got into over their name and mascot?

at least the Redskins logo looks like an actual person and not a caricature

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FortuneCookie
07/13/20 11:28:53 AM
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Yes, I do.

Redskin is a reference to bloody scalps left behind in government-sanctioned acts of genocide. The name change is long, long overdue. Washington Redskins should've never been a thing in my lifetime. You ever see photographs of fried chicken restaurants with racist names / racist mascots? The Redskins brand name should've gone out with that.


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FortuneCookie
07/13/20 11:30:17 AM
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HylianFox posted...
remember the heat the Cleveland Indians got into over their name and mascot?

at least the Redskins logo looks like an actual person and not a caricature

The name is much worse though. I have no problem with the logo. I actually would like to see them keep it and change the name to Washington Warriors.

My beef is with the title which can be traced back to genocide.

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DevsBro
07/13/20 11:41:58 AM
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I dunno, I never got this whole controversy even back like 15 years ago when I first heard of it. Is it just that they don't like the depiction of centuries-old culture? Like anybody thinks it's supposed to be a realistic depiction of modern people?

If I try to put myself in their shoes, the best I can come up with is if they renamed the team to the Washington Rednecks and the die-hard fans wore straw hats and half-buttoned overalls, and the only conclusions I can come to are:

1. That's actually kinda funny.
2. It's actually kind of flattering for somebody to think southerners are badass enough to compete with bears, lions, panthers, etc.

But whatever, it doesn't matter if I get it. "Nuh uh" is the worst possible answer to "this is offensive."

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FortuneCookie
07/13/20 11:53:27 AM
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DevsBro posted...
Washington Rednecks

While I'd love to see the people who said Redskins wasn't offensive suddenly on the defensive, turning it around to malign white people instead of Native Americans isn't the answer. It's just replacing an unacceptable target with an acceptable target. The concept of an acceptable target is the underlining problem.

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Wasssup Now
07/13/20 4:29:41 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
The name is much worse though. I have no problem with the logo. I actually would like to see them keep it and change the name to Washington Warriors.

My beef is with the title which can be traced back to genocide.

It didn't originate with genocide. It was for a period associated with it so I do understand why it's offensive and being changed. When the team was named it was not in a pejorative sense either. I don't like the fact we even have racial slurs that exist. Instead of getting rid of a slur, we're pretty much creating one as a society right now.
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FortuneCookie
07/13/20 10:00:18 PM
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It's like naming a German team "The Ashes."

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Smackems
07/13/20 10:01:25 PM
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Rename everyone and everything to Bloop

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vigorm0rtis
07/13/20 10:04:57 PM
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If all of football fell into a bottomless pit I wouldn't care, so I don't know how to vote.

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OpenlyGator
07/13/20 10:10:02 PM
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Do you actually care about the Washington Washingtons name change?
Care less about the Washingtons and more about the Benjamins.

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Wasssup Now
07/13/20 11:33:09 PM
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ufoivy posted...
Changing team names and getting rid of episodes of shows featuring offensive content is not reforming policing or criminal justice.

Great point. This is actually taking away from the real issues in this country
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vigorm0rtis
07/14/20 2:08:36 AM
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Wasssup Now posted...
Great point. This is actually taking away from the real issues in this country


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cjsdowg
07/14/20 2:28:45 AM
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Why are people defending this so much . If you don't think it is racist , okay. Others do so just take it down and you lose literally nothing .

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josifrees
07/14/20 2:36:23 AM
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name is offensive to me. if a Native American is offended even a minority of them they have the right to voice their feelings and petition a change.


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DevsBro
07/14/20 8:21:09 AM
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They should go with something not everybody does. How many mechanical or scifi sports mascots are there? Jets is the only one I can think of. What if they went with the Washington Androids or something?

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DevsBro
07/14/20 8:23:12 AM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
In other news, the statue of New Yorkers toppling a statue of King George III was taken apart for cleaning earlier this week...

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KStateKing17
07/14/20 8:34:35 AM
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I think someone shared a video some years back with a man wearing a shirt with the team being the "Caucasians". I don't recall the white people in the video being very amused by it.

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alimajor
07/14/20 8:39:10 AM
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Yes, I'm all for the Washington Racial Slurs changing their name
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I Like Toast
07/14/20 9:16:56 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
Why are people defending this so much . If you don't think it is racist , okay. Others do so just take it down and you lose literally nothing .
People think Karen is racist and yet many people who say what you said still say it, including you. It's almost like that's not how things work.

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TheGoldenEel
07/14/20 12:05:58 PM
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ufoivy posted...
Changing team names and getting rid of episodes of shows featuring offensive content is not reforming policing or criminal justice.
It contributes to the de-normalizing of casual racism in society

each thing on its own is probably inconsequential but if, one by one, we can demonstrate that these things are not okay, it can help us as a culture can make progress on bigger picture issues caused by institutional racism

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MachineJaipur
07/14/20 12:41:12 PM
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69 people do not care
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alimajor
07/14/20 1:02:15 PM
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KStateKing17 posted...
I think someone shared a video some years back with a man wearing a shirt with the team being the "Caucasians". I don't recall the white people in the video being very amused by it.

Here's that T-shirt btw

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josifrees
07/14/20 2:17:35 PM
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Bomani is so awesome

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TheEvilMushroom
07/14/20 2:20:19 PM
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So many stupid people. Its equivalent to if we had a "Washington N-words". Although considering most of you heathens on here probably use that word too, this topic doesn't surprise me.

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PrettyBoyFloyd
07/14/20 4:25:29 PM
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alimajor posted...
Here's that T-shirt btw

I recall that shirt being from some website that sold some crazy ass shit.

One shirt had a picture of the Pyramids and it said "Slavery Gets Shit Done".


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alimajor
07/14/20 4:48:52 PM
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Here's the site in case anyone wants to cop one. It's pretty cheap I might get one myself lol

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