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toyota 07/09/20 11:09:06 AM #1:	We really dont, according to the Bible, if you dont accept Jesus as Messiah then whatever you believe in is false and not the same God as those who believe in Jesus. Sure it may have stemmed from the original premise but once Jesus came in the picture a fork split in the road, and depending on which road you take then you are not longer believing in the same God/god. And im sure people of those other religions would agree and say the same thing since we all took different paths. Because the fact I believe in Jesus would be believing the "wrong" thing in their point of view. That 'they believe in the same God' case can only be made with Christian and Black Hebrew Israelites. From John 8 19 Then they said to Him, Where is Your Father? Jesus answered, You know neither Me nor My Father. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also. 39 They answered and said to Him, Abraham is our father. Jesus said to them, If you were Abrahams children, you would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. 41 You do the deeds of your father. Then they said to Him, We were not born of fornication; we have one FatherGod. 42 Jesus said to them, If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. 43 Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. 45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. 46 Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? 47 He who is of God hears Gods words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God. tbh I know and hang out with a a bunch of black hebrew israelites. when they told me their beliefs it actually lined up with a lot of how i interpreted the Bible when I read it and how I interpret what Christianity should have evolved into from Judaism. As a Christian and a believer of Jesus I honestly consider myself a real Israelite and that Israel belongs to people who believe in Jesus as the Messiah. I dont really like how they keep it pretty exclusive from non-black people and they kind of jump the shark when they start acting like every bit of history was white washed and every historical character was really black lmao. They were even telling me how everybody came from black people and my response to it all was something like 'So your telling me Im really deep down a black dude in a half mexican body or at least and honorary black dude?' <cite>toyota posted [p:941882336] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>We really dont, according to the Bible, if you dont accept Jesus as Messiah then whatever you believe in is false and not the same God as those who believe in Jesus. Sure it may have stemmed from the original premise but once Jesus came in the picture a fork split in the road, and depending on which road you take then you are not longer believing in the same God/god. And im sure people of those other religions would agree and say the same thing since we all took different paths. Because the fact I believe in Jesus would be believing the "wrong" thing in their point of view. That 'they believe in the same God' case can only be made with Christian and Black Hebrew Israelites. From John 8 <quote>19 Then they said to Him, Where is Your Father? Jesus answered, You know neither Me nor My Father. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also.</quote> <quote>39 They answered and said to Him, Abraham is our father. Jesus said to them, If you were Abrahams children, you would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. 41 You do the deeds of your father. Then they said to Him, We were not born of fornication; we have one FatherGod.</quote> <quote>42 Jesus said to them, If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. 43 Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. 45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. 46 Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? 47 He who is of God hears Gods words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.</quote> tbh I know and hang out with a a bunch of black hebrew israelites. when they told me their beliefs it actually lined up with a lot of how i interpreted the Bible when I read it and how I interpret what Christianity should have evolved into from Judaism. As a Christian and a believer of Jesus I honestly consider myself a real Israelite and that Israel belongs to people who believe in Jesus as the Messiah. I dont really like how they keep it pretty exclusive from non-black people and they kind of jump the shark when they start acting like every bit of history was white washed and every historical character was really black lmao. They were even telling me how everybody came from black people and my response to it all was something like 'So your telling me Im really deep down a black dude in a half mexican body or at least and honorary black dude?' </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sunhawk 07/09/20 11:10:30 AM #2:	The Christian God, the Jewish God and Muslim God were all (thousands of years ago) worshipped by Abraham, which makes them the same entity. They're even called Abrahamic religions. Come on, TC. --- It has been 0 days since something interesting happened. Thrill me, chill me, fulfil me. <cite>Sunhawk posted [p:941882379] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>The Christian God, the Jewish God and Muslim God were all (thousands of years ago) worshipped by Abraham, which makes them the same entity. They're even called Abrahamic religions. Come on, TC. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DepreceV2 07/09/20 11:11:21 AM #4:	Bullet_Wing posted... They believe in different interpretations of the same God. It's like that story about the blind men with the elephant Sunhawk posted... The Christian God, the Jewish God and Muslim God were all (thousands of years ago) worshipped by Abraham, which makes them the same entity. They're even called Abrahamic religions. Come on, TC. --- Nothing until I think of a new Sig 6/3/20 <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:941882399] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>Bullet_Wing posted... </cite> <quote>They believe in different interpretations of the same God. It's like that story about the blind men with the elephant</quote> Sunhawk posted... </cite> <quote>The Christian God, the Jewish God and Muslim God were all (thousands of years ago) worshipped by Abraham, which makes them the same entity. They're even called Abrahamic religions. Come on, TC.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 07/09/20 11:12:27 AM #6:	Or you just believe it's the same God except Christians got the part about Jesus wrong. --- formerly evening formerly guide https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:941882440] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>Or you just believe it's the same God except Christians got the part about Jesus wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 07/09/20 11:14:53 AM #7:	This explains a lot about TC --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:941882530] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>This explains a lot about TC</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 07/09/20 11:16:15 AM #8:	because all the different fanfictions are derived from the same source. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:941882563] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>because all the different fanfictions are derived from the same source. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toyota 07/09/20 11:19:42 AM #9:	Sunhawk posted... The Christian God, the Jewish God and Muslim God were all (thousands of years ago) worshipped by Abraham, which makes them the same entity. They're even called Abrahamic religions. Come on, TC. it may have stemmed from the original premise but once Jesus came in the picture a fork split in the road, and depending on which road you take then you are not longer believing in the same God/god. It cant be the same entity if Jesus straight up says if you dont believe in Him then whatever 'god' you believe in is not the same and basically is non-cannon <cite>toyota posted [p:941882678] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>Sunhawk posted... </cite> <quote>The Christian God, the Jewish God and Muslim God were all (thousands of years ago) worshipped by Abraham, which makes them the same entity. They're even called Abrahamic religions. Come on, TC.</quote> it may have stemmed from the original premise but once Jesus came in the picture a fork split in the road, and depending on which road you take then you are not longer believing in the same God/god. It cant be the same entity if Jesus straight up says if you dont believe in Him then whatever 'god' you believe in is not the same and basically is non-cannon </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 07/09/20 11:21:09 AM #10:	toyota posted... it may have stemmed from the original premise but once Jesus came in the picture a fork split in the road, and depending on which road you take then you are not longer believing in the same God/god. It cant be the same entity if Jesus straight up says if you dont believe in Him then whatever 'god' you believe in is not the same and basically is non-cannon Well you are assuming Christianity is Cannon --- Nothing until I think of a new Sig 6/3/20 <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:941882720] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>toyota posted... </cite> <quote> it may have stemmed from the original premise but once Jesus came in the picture a fork split in the road, and depending on which road you take then you are not longer believing in the same God/god. It cant be the same entity if Jesus straight up says if you dont believe in Him then whatever 'god' you believe in is not the same and basically is non-cannon</quote> Well you are assuming Christianity is Cannon </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 07/09/20 11:21:15 AM #11:	It's only incorrect according to Christian thinking. In Islam it's widely accepted that it's the same God. Even Arabic-speaking Christians refer to God as Allah Not sure what Judaism's stance on the issue is. --- https://imgur.com/NlyIzM6 ~ Lara Croft and I, as drawn by Harpie! 'I'm gonna pound a 400 lb woman just to prove teep wrong' - NigerianKnight <cite>teepan95 posted [p:941882723] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>It's only incorrect according to Christian thinking. In Islam it's widely accepted that it's the same God. Even Arabic-speaking Christians refer to God as Allah Not sure what Judaism's stance on the issue is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 07/09/20 11:24:30 AM #13:	I would address the OP, but I have TC tagged as a welcher if still active due to an NBA board bet, so just close your account already --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:941882830] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>I would address the OP, but I have TC tagged as a welcher if still active due to an NBA board bet, so just close your account already </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/09/20 11:26:23 AM #14:	It's the god of Abraham, to constrast it with the many other branches of world faiths --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:941882899] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>It's the god of Abraham, to constrast it with the many other branches of world faiths </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toyota 07/09/20 11:26:34 AM #15:	K181 posted... I would address the OP, but I have TC tagged as a welcher if still active due to an NBA board bet, so just close your account already Only if cclppers dont win the championship. screenshot it! <cite>toyota posted [p:941882904] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>K181 posted... </cite> <quote>I would address the OP, but I have TC tagged as a welcher if still active due to an NBA board bet, so just close your account already</quote>Only if cclppers dont win the championship. screenshot it! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brokenfingers 07/09/20 11:40:43 AM #16:	Bullet_Wing posted... They believe in different interpretations of the same God. It's like that story about the blind men with the elephant This. TC, your road analogy is horribly flawed and just wrong. --- First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire. -Roland Deschain <cite>brokenfingers posted [p:941883394] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>Bullet_Wing posted... </cite> <quote>They believe in different interpretations of the same God. It's like that story about the blind men with the elephant</quote>This. TC, your road analogy is horribly flawed and just wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toyota 07/10/20 3:23:50 AM #17:	Balrog0 posted... It's the god of Abraham, No its not, because they dont believe in Jesus. So because they dont believe in Jesus they must be listening to the lie of some other entity pretending to be the God of Abraham. People who dont believe in Jesus dont believe in the same Abrahamic God. Jesus literally says 39 They answered and said to Him, Abraham is our father. Jesus said to them, If you were Abrahams children, you would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. 41 You do the deeds of your father. 44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. Which is why the 'they all beleive in the same Abrahamic God' meme annoys me. <cite>toyota posted [p:941917604] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote> Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>It's the god of Abraham,</quote> No its not, because they dont believe in Jesus. So because they dont believe in Jesus they must be listening to the lie of some other entity pretending to be the God of Abraham. People who dont believe in Jesus dont believe in the same Abrahamic God. Jesus literally says <quote>39 They answered and said to Him, Abraham is our father. Jesus said to them, If you were Abrahams children, you would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. 41 You do the deeds of your father.</quote> <quote>44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. </quote> Which is why the 'they all beleive in the same Abrahamic God' meme annoys me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 07/10/20 3:29:15 AM #18:	Are you assuming the bible is correct or something for your argument? Why not assume the other religions books are correct? It's just as plausible. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:941917681] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>Are you assuming the bible is correct or something for your argument? Why not assume the other religions books are correct? It's just as plausible. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 07/10/20 3:32:33 AM #19:	Jesus was just a misunderstoof prophet --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:941917727] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>Jesus was just a misunderstoof prophet </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 07/10/20 4:26:49 AM #20:	teepan95 posted... It's only incorrect according to Christian thinking. In Islam it's widely accepted that it's the same God. Even Arabic-speaking Christians refer to God as Allah Not sure what Judaism's stance on the issue is. --- https://imgur.com/NlyIzM6 ~ Lara Croft and I, as drawn by Harpie! 'I'm gonna pound a 400 lb woman just to prove teep wrong' - NigerianKnight <cite>teepan95 posted [p:941918476] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>teepan95 posted...</cite> <quote>It's only incorrect according to Christian thinking. In Islam it's widely accepted that it's the same God. Even Arabic-speaking Christians refer to God as Allah Not sure what Judaism's stance on the issue is.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toyota 07/10/20 4:30:51 AM #21:	teepan95 posted... It's only incorrect according to Christian thinking. In Islam it's widely accepted that it's the same God. Even Arabic-speaking Christians refer to God as Allah Not sure what Judaism's stance on the issue is. literally makes no sense which ever way you put it since we dont believe in the same God in the first place. They might seem to think we do but we really dont. Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya <cite>toyota posted [p:941918538] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>teepan95 posted... </cite> <quote>It's only incorrect according to Christian thinking. In Islam it's widely accepted that it's the same God. Even Arabic-speaking Christians refer to God as Allah Not sure what Judaism's stance on the issue is.</quote> literally makes no sense which ever way you put it since we dont believe in the same God in the first place. They might seem to think we do but we really dont. Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 07/10/20 4:34:35 AM #22:	toyota posted... literally makes no sense which ever way you put it since we dont believe in the same God in the first place. They might seem to think we do but we really dont. This isn't the compelling argument you seem to think it is toyota posted... Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya The orientalist Stefan Wimmer explains that Taqiyya is not a tool to deceive non-Muslims and spread Islam, but instead a defensive mechanism to save one's life when it is in great danger (giving the example of the Reconquista). So this isn't relevant here? Glad you posted that link to confirm it --- https://imgur.com/NlyIzM6 ~ Lara Croft and I, as drawn by Harpie! 'I'm gonna pound a 400 lb woman just to prove teep wrong' - NigerianKnight <cite>teepan95 posted [p:941918589] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>toyota posted...</cite> <quote>literally makes no sense which ever way you put it since we dont believe in the same God in the first place. They might seem to think we do but we really dont.</quote> This isn't the compelling argument you seem to think it is toyota posted...</cite> <quote>Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya</quote> <quote>The orientalist Stefan Wimmer explains that Taqiyya is not a tool to deceive non-Muslims and spread Islam, but instead a defensive mechanism to save one's life when it is in great danger (giving the example of the Reconquista).</quote> So this isn't relevant here? Glad you posted that link to confirm it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kalavinka 07/10/20 4:52:01 AM #23:	"My dad can beat up your dad" --- It is, as some admiral once said, a trap. <cite>Kalavinka posted [p:941918822] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>"My dad can beat up your dad" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Consciousness 07/10/20 5:01:41 AM #24:	Arabs claim to be the line of Ishmael, don't they? So, they are related. Jesus is also considered a Prophet or Messenger by the Quran. <cite>Consciousness posted [p:941918939] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>Arabs claim to be the line of Ishmael, don't they? So, they are related. Jesus is also considered a Prophet or Messenger by the Quran. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 07/10/20 5:06:58 AM #25:	Consciousness posted... Arabs claim to be the line of Ishmael, don't they? So, they are related. Jesus is also considered a Prophet or Messenger by the Quran. No, you see, thousands of years of religious scholarship is irrelevant. Some yahoo on CE is the crowning authority. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://imgur.com/M8h2ATe https://imgur.com/6ezFwG1 <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:941918993] in Why do peo... [t:78835040]...</cite> <quote>Consciousness posted... </cite> <quote>Arabs claim to be the line of Ishmael, don't they? So, they are related. Jesus is also considered a Prophet or Messenger by the Quran.</quote>No, you see, thousands of years of religious scholarship is irrelevant. Some yahoo on CE is the crowning authority. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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