Current Events > In Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and many other countries, SCHOOLS ARE OPEN

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1280853299600789505

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Trump gets fixated on a subject like this the way my late-stage Alzheimer's-afflicted grandfather used to get fixated on having a piece of furniture moved.

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It's almost like those countries were hit before the US and they practiced a strictly kept social distancing policy (Sweden aside) that wasn't challenged by conservative morons cause of freedom.
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Pointing out how much better the administrations of other countries are handling Covid -19 is a weird move for Trump to make.
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Trump tweeting about how he wants to kill Americans and people still support him? lol

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And if you did a better job Trump, maybe schools here could open up. But instead you chose to downplay the virus, encouraged your sheep to ignore protective measures, and played golf instead of leading the nation.

ThunderTrain posted...

Trump tweeting about how he wants to kill Americans and people still support him? lol

Trump admited he could murder people in the street and his supporters wouldn't care

Then got cheers and appluase for it

This isn't rational, Trump support is a cult. If Tomorrow Trump told his supporters to kill people, they would.

Biden's would not.
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Oh cool. Now he has an excuse to cut more funding to inner city education because they don't want their neighborhoods to die.

Fuck this pos
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And schools are closed for Summer break in Sweden since early June until late August.

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Sweden is about to not exist anymore

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"All these countries that treated COVID-19 like a serious threat are starting to finally open after treating it as a serious threat instead of acting like it was a hoax for months. Why can't America just skip the 'lockdown' part and just go straight to opening!?"

Just Trump logic.
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Our schools could be open too if he hadn't royally fucked everything up

How long until after his presidency are we going to find out that we had a mentally compromised president in the oval office for 4 years

Swedish schools are closed for summer break

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Reposting.
Experts are recommending schools reopen.

HiddenRoar posted... https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/effects-of-isolation-are-surfacing-pediatricians-call-for-return-to-school-1.5012527

TORONTO -- Pediatricians south of the border are recommending that kids go back to school in September, wearing cloth masks, staying in small groups, maintaining distance from each other, and riding buses in assigned seats.
The Canadian Paediatric Society is also urging a return to classrooms in the fall, but stops short of giving specific recommendations for how schools should look.
The American Academy of Pediatrics says children should be outside whenever possible, desks should be 1 metre to 2 metres apart and students should be guided to wash their hands regularly and to spread out during singing and exercising.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/30/us/coronavirus-schools-reopening-guidelines-aap.html

The American Academy of Pediatrics has a reputation as conservative and cautious, which is what you would expect from an organization devoted to protecting childrens health. But this week, the academy made a splash with advice about reopening schools that appears to be somewhat at odds with what administrators are hearing from some federal and state health officials.
But the academys guidelines strongly recommend that students be physically present in school as much as possible, and emphasize that there are major health, social and educational risks to keeping children at home. Dr. Sean OLeary, a pediatrics infectious disease specialist at the University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus, helped write the academys guidelines.
The academy guidelines place a big emphasis on the importance of physical school over remote learning. Can you summarize why?
As pediatricians, many of us have recognized already the impact that having schools closed even for a couple months had on children. At the same time, a lot of us are parents. We experienced our own kids doing online learning. There really wasnt a lot of learning happening. Now were seeing studies documenting this. Kids being home led to increases in behavioral health problems. There were reports of increased rates of abuse.

What we have seen so far in the literature and anecdotally, as well is that kids really do seem to be both less likely to catch the infection and less likely to spread the infection. It seems to be even more true for younger kids, under 10 or under 12. And older kids seem to play less of a role than adults.
Here in Colorado, Ive been following our state health department website very closely. They update data every day and include the outbreaks in the state they are investigating. As you can imagine, there are lots and lots in long-term care facilities and skilled nursing homes, some in restaurants and grocery stores. There have been a total of four in child care centers, and we do have a lot of child care centers open. In almost every one of those cases, transmission was between two adults. The kids in the centers are not spreading Covid-19. Im hearing the same thing from other states, as well.

From our perspective as pediatricians, the downsides of having kids at home versus in school are outweighed by the small incremental gain you would get from having kids six feet apart as opposed to five, four or three. When you add into that other mitigation measures like mask wearing, particularly for older kids, and frequent hand washing, you can bring the risk down.

Reopening schools is so important for the kids, but really for the entire community. So much of our world relies on kids being in school and parents being able to work. Trying to work from home with the kids home is disproportionately impacting women. So it goes beyond just the health of the child, which is, of course, very important. As a country, we should be doing everything we can right now, for lots of reasons, to make sure we can safely reopen schools in the fall.

HiddenRoar posted...

Reposting.
Experts are recommending schools reopen.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/effects-of-isolation-are-surfacing-pediatricians-call-for-return-to-school-1.5012527

What we have seen so far in the literature and anecdotally, as well is that kids really do seem to be both less likely to catch the infection and less likely to spread the infection. It seems to be even more true for younger kids, under 10 or under 12. And older kids seem to play less of a role than adults.
Here in Colorado, Ive been following our state health department website very closely. They update data every day and include the outbreaks in the state they are investigating. As you can imagine, there are lots and lots in long-term care facilities and skilled nursing homes, some in restaurants and grocery stores. There have been a total of four in child care centers, and we do have a lot of child care centers open. In almost every one of those cases, transmission was between two adults. The kids in the centers are not spreading Covid-19. Im hearing the same thing from other states, as well.

From our perspective as pediatricians, the downsides of having kids at home versus in school are outweighed by the small incremental gain you would get from having kids six feet apart as opposed to five, four or three. When you add into that other mitigation measures like mask wearing, particularly for older kids, and frequent hand washing, you can bring the risk down.

Reopening schools is so important for the kids, but really for the entire community. So much of our world relies on kids being in school and parents being able to work. Trying to work from home with the kids home is disproportionately impacting women. So it goes beyond just the health of the child, which is, of course, very important. As a country, we should be doing everything we can right now, for lots of reasons, to make sure we can safely reopen schools in the fall.

Great now wear a mask and shut the fuck up about it.

edit: As a country, we should be doing everything we can right now, for lots of reasons, to make sure we can safely reopen schools in the fall.

Then why as a country from the top of the administration are we doing the exact opposite?
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HiddenRoar posted...

Reposting.
Experts are recommending schools reopen.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/effects-of-isolation-are-surfacing-pediatricians-call-for-return-to-school-1.5012527

What we have seen so far in the literature and anecdotally, as well is that kids really do seem to be both less likely to catch the infection and less likely to spread the infection. It seems to be even more true for younger kids, under 10 or under 12. And older kids seem to play less of a role than adults.
Here in Colorado, Ive been following our state health department website very closely. They update data every day and include the outbreaks in the state they are investigating. As you can imagine, there are lots and lots in long-term care facilities and skilled nursing homes, some in restaurants and grocery stores. There have been a total of four in child care centers, and we do have a lot of child care centers open. In almost every one of those cases, transmission was between two adults. The kids in the centers are not spreading Covid-19. Im hearing the same thing from other states, as well.

From our perspective as pediatricians, the downsides of having kids at home versus in school are outweighed by the small incremental gain you would get from having kids six feet apart as opposed to five, four or three. When you add into that other mitigation measures like mask wearing, particularly for older kids, and frequent hand washing, you can bring the risk down.

Reopening schools is so important for the kids, but really for the entire community. So much of our world relies on kids being in school and parents being able to work. Trying to work from home with the kids home is disproportionately impacting women. So it goes beyond just the health of the child, which is, of course, very important. As a country, we should be doing everything we can right now, for lots of reasons, to make sure we can safely reopen schools in the fall.

That doesn't support Trump's tweet? (The other countries are opening so we should) It just supports opening in general...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Then why as a country from the top of the administration are we doing the exact opposite?

Local school administration has more sway on school policy than the federal government.
See: Mandatory vaccinations, concealed carry (for teachers), cops on campus, etc.

Ruvan22 posted...

That doesn't support Trump's tweet? (The other countries are opening so we should) It just supports opening in general...

And the argument in this topic is that schools shouldn't open, against the recommendations provided by professionals that they should.

HiddenRoar posted...

Local school administration has more sway on school policy than the federal government.
See: Mandatory vaccinations, concealed carry (for teachers), cops on campus, etc.

So the federal government tried to do things and locals blocked them? Or the federal government is without power and Trump is just blustering?

Gonna be sad when the kids that live with their grandparents or have people with health issues get it at school and bring it home.

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HiddenRoar posted...

And the argument in this topic is that schools shouldn't open, against the recommendations provided by professionals that they should.

No, the argument in this tweet is that since other countries opened "with no problems", the US should too. Now if Trump meant to say something else, that's on him (as he has in other tweets where he just stated he wanted schools to open)

Ruvan22 posted...

No, the argument in this tweet is that since other countries opened "with no problems", the US should too. Now if Trump meant to say something else, that's on him (as he has in other tweets where he just stated he wanted schools to open)

I'm not talking about tweets holy ****.
I'm talking about opening schools in general, and the professionals supports the notion that we should.

HiddenRoar posted...

I'm not talking about tweets holy ****.

You're in the wrong topic, then.
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HiddenRoar posted...

I'm not talking about tweets holy ****.
I'm talking about opening schools in general, and the professionals supports the notion that we should.

Then why post in this thread? This one IS talking about the tweet - there's plenty of other threads on school openings you can post in

HiddenRoar posted...

Local school administration has more sway on school policy than the federal government.

Local school administration has absolutely nothing to do with keeping cases low during the summer time. Keeping the spread as low as possible so it doesn't have a chance to spread like wildfire in schools in the fall is part of "As a country, we should be doing everything we can right now, for lots of reasons, to make sure we can safely reopen schools in the fall."

Your answer is a deflection from Trump being a piece of shit when it comes to COVID-19 response. We can't as a country "do everything we can right now to make sure we can safely reopen schools in the fall" when the president still acts like COVID-19 is a Democratic hoax to make him lose the election and not an actual problem.
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Because they had a competent leader who listened to experts and handeled the virus properly. They earned reopening schools. We botched this up big time and are not ready.

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https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/08/888853601/school-reopenings-should-keep-public-health-in-mind-pediatric-group-says


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