Current Events > Electoral College: 248 Dem vs 204 Republican, 86 toss ups.

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wackyteen
07/07/20 4:39:42 PM
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The President has a real up hill battle to fight. He basically has to repeat 2016 verbatim if he wants to have a hope (atm)

But the real tellers here are the "Leans Republican" highlights for TX, GA, IA, and OH. Those should guaranteed locks. Besides the combination of Arizona and Wisconsin, Dems only need to win 2 states from the current standings to win (and even that combination is winnable with Nebraska if Nebraska's District 2 goes blue).

Whoever is saying this is 2016 again, isn't paying attention.

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berlyman101
07/07/20 4:41:06 PM
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the future of the world is dependent on the Nebraska stripe ffs

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Jabodie
07/07/20 4:41:54 PM
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berlyman101 posted...
the future of the world is dependent on the Nebraska stripe ffs
Lmao

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pfh1001
07/07/20 5:19:36 PM
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Before we get too excited about Trump going down, let's all remember that all the predictors said he was going to lose big in 2016. All it takes is a few thousand people here or there-- Michigan (with a population of about 10 million people) was decided by just over 10K votes.

And who knows if Kanye is actually going to try to get on the ballots & the chaos that could cause.
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JBaLLEN66
07/07/20 5:27:28 PM
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pfh1001 posted...
Before we get too excited about Trump going down, let's all remember that all the predictors said he was going to lose big in 2016. All it takes is a few thousand people here or there-- Michigan (with a population of about 10 million people) was decided by just over 10K votes.

And who knows if Kanye is actually going to try to get on the ballots & the chaos that could cause.

nice troll post

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BLAKUboy
07/07/20 5:32:24 PM
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Texas and Georgia aren't even "leaning", they're straight tossups as of now. Iowa and that last Maine EV are probably pretty close, too, but I don't really follow polls for them.
The picture is a lot more dire for Trump than people seem willing to admit.

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FreezerDoor
07/07/20 5:33:56 PM
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Does that map include Kanye running?

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wackyteen
07/07/20 5:37:44 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Texas and Georgia aren't even "leaning", they're straight tossups as of now. Iowa and that last Maine EV are probably pretty close, too, but I don't really follow polls for them.
The picture is a lot more dire for Trump than people seem willing to admit.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/texas/

In the last month, regarding the general election, polls with a 538 Pollster rating of B or higher have said:

Trump +4
Biden +2
Biden +1
Trump +2
A Tie
Trump +1

In a vacuum that's a toss up, sure, but I think given the historical data regarding the state of Texas, you can still call it a Lean.

270 does have an additional option that isn't there by default called "Tilts"

I'd say Texas, in this moment, is a Tilt

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CruelBuffalo
07/07/20 5:39:41 PM
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The fact that Ohio is still red shows you everything you need to know about Ohio
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Zanzenburger
07/07/20 9:10:25 PM
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This is interesting to see. I'm interested to see how this changes month to month heading to November.

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DoctorPiranha3
07/07/20 9:18:10 PM
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America. Where a few uneducated bumpkins in swing states can determine the whole future of a country.
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FunnyPies
07/07/20 9:19:02 PM
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I live in PA. I'm very happy that my vote actually freakin' matters.
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Ving_Rhames
07/07/20 9:21:59 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
The fact that Ohio is still red shows you everything you need to know about Ohio

Literally the moment you go within like a mile out of one of the cities its bumble fuck Trumpville. Its ridiculous.

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pogo_rabid
07/07/20 9:22:32 PM
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You know what, after living through this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TwuR0jCavk

and this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRf0tvEIbz0

I know not to trust any poll or "expert" on election predictions

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Antifar
07/07/20 9:24:39 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
You know what, after living through this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TwuR0jCavk

and this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRf0tvEIbz0

I know not to trust any poll or "expert" on election predictions

The thing about Karl Rove in 2012 is that he had been ignoring all the evidence from polls. Nate Silver's projections got every state right in 2012
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pogo_rabid
07/07/20 9:25:14 PM
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Antifar posted...
The thing about Karl Rove in 2012 is that he had been ignoring all the evidence from polls. Nate Silver's projections got every state right in 2012
not so successful in 2016 though

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Antifar
07/07/20 9:26:23 PM
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No, but polls remain the best metric we have for judging public opinion on electoral matters. The lesson from 2016 is not "never trust polls."
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FunnyPies
07/07/20 9:27:35 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Who are you voting?
I'm leaning slightly towards Biden. One big factor why I'm not really for Biden is I seriously doubt Biden will be hard on China as Trump is. Just for shits and giggles, I did a quiz here:
https://2020election.procon.org/2020-election-quiz.php

And here's my result:
https://2020election.procon.org/2020-election-quiz-results.php?sid=WzYzNzgwOCwxMzNd

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wackyteen
07/07/20 10:34:03 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
not so successful in 2016 though
@pogo_rabid

To be fair Trump barely won the swing states that he did win.

It isn't exactly surprising when the states were that close that the model could've been wrong. *shrugs*

These states aren't even going to be close.

I wonder how close we'll be before Silver releases the model or if he even bothers if the model is just gonna sit at like 90+% Biden.

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FunnyPies
07/07/20 10:37:19 PM
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wackyteen posted...
To be fair Trump barely won the swing states that he did win.
I voted for Trump in the 2016 election. Trump won by just 44,332 votes in PA, or just 0.72% (yes, less than 1%) of total votes. I will probably be voting for Biden this year; but not happy about it.
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Poop2
07/07/20 10:37:27 PM
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Trump done
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UnholyMudcrab
07/07/20 10:41:33 PM
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All Biden needs from the tossups is WI and PA, and he has about a 5-point lead in both
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RetsuZaiZen
07/07/20 10:44:33 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
nice troll post
Shut the fuck up

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wackyteen
07/08/20 2:19:24 PM
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Also, if you go by the polling map (yeah yeah i know POLLS), Democrats are actually polling at a win by 17 EC votes.

It also puts Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Iowa, Arkansas, Georgia, Florida, Ohio and EVEN FUCKING UTAH in Toss-Up contention. <_<

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Proto_Spark
07/08/20 2:27:58 PM
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wackyteen posted...
Also, if you go by the polling map (yeah yeah i know POLLS), Democrats are actually polling at a win by 17 EC votes.

It also puts Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Iowa, Arkansas, Georgia, Florida, Ohio and EVEN FUCKING UTAH in Toss-Up contention. <_<

I think Utah depends on how much the people like Mitt Romney standing up to the cult of Trump. It could possibly go Blue entirely as a protest vote against Trump attacking their guy for not being in line.
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Extreme_light
07/08/20 2:29:00 PM
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In Arizona, I can see Biden getting the vote here. It's gonna be a nail biter when it comes to it however.

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DarkChozoGhost
07/08/20 2:30:10 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Texas and Georgia aren't even "leaning", they're straight tossups as of now. Iowa and that last Maine EV are probably pretty close, too, but I don't really follow polls for them.
The picture is a lot more dire for Trump than people seem willing to admit.
Georgia has 0 chance of going blue do the aggressive voter suppression that their evil piece of human garbage governor is continuing to implement.

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onedarksoul
07/08/20 2:32:13 PM
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It would be easier for Trump if he could get some of those light-blue states. He was close in MN and VA last time, IIRC.

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CommonJoe
07/08/20 2:32:22 PM
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Im more interested in how the Senate races are looking.

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Poop2
07/08/20 2:37:44 PM
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CommonJoe posted...
Im more interested in how the Senate races are looking.

I hope it goes dem
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I Like Toast
07/08/20 3:06:59 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
I think Utah depends on how much the people like Mitt Romney standing up to the cult of Trump. It could possibly go Blue entirely as a protest vote against Trump attacking their guy for not being in line.
More so if they think bidens anti abortion voting record means more than his lip service of now being pro abortion.

They'll vote for trump and an independent mormon like 2016. Evan McMullin did 21% and Hillary did 27%

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Anteaterking
07/08/20 3:13:09 PM
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onedarksoul posted...
It would be easier for Trump if he could get some of those light-blue states. He was close in MN and VA last time, IIRC.

Clinton won Virginia by 5 points, which is more than Obama won byin 2012

Minnesota was only won by 1.5, but the only two polls from the last month have Trump down between 5 and 12 points.

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TheOrgyPorgy
07/08/20 8:50:08 PM
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biden is going to win, the end

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