Current Events > Why is animal abuse a thing...when animals eat each other too anyway?

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A cat eats a fish. we don't feel pity for the fish, do we?
A dog in the wild can eat birds, rats, insects etc.. can we don't feel for the insects...

Can you imagine how much pain it must be to be slowly eaten alive by another creature?
Animals clearly cant tell the ethical nature of 'murder' or killing, yet we symphatise when the animals themselves get killed.

Why is that??

Because I love my kitty cats

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Yeah, why is it bad if we eat our own kids?

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Yeah dude because we all know that cats are like a natural prey to most wild animals. They fucking live off of them.

Torturing people's pets is fucked up.

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Because we don't emulate our behavior off of animals.

We're (supposed to be) more civilized than that

a human beating an animal isn't nature.

close this thread.

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Theyre all rats

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Yeah why do we frown on sociopaths when they're just tapping into our animalistic nature?



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Because they're domestic animals, which is clearly very different than wild animals doing what wild animals do

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empathy

ours is much more complex and advanced than other animals

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This is such a stupid topic.

Animals usually hurt each other for food, or for defense. Not for kicks and giggles.
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Laserion posted...

Animals usually hurt each other for food, or for defense. Not for kicks and giggles.

As a cat owner lmaoing hard

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Humans are wired to care for animals (especially dogs) in a similar way to caring for babies. We evolved together with dogs and have certain base reactions from that co-evolution. Modern society cares quite a bit more for animals than are instincts guide us to, but when someone breaks that line we see it as a signal that something is incredibly wrong with said person.
From a modern perspective, however, most humans aim to avoid needless suffering. We kill cows as harmlessly as possible and we avoid seeing the deed because it causes us discomfort. Again, someone causing needless pain is viewed as a degenerate.

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YugiNoob posted...

Yeah, why is it bad if we eat our own kids?

hamsters eat their own babies too.
cannibalism of babies isnt uncommon in the animal world, yknow?

MachineJaipur posted...

Because we don't emulate our behavior off of animals.

We're (supposed to be) more civilized than that

yes, but animals aren't civilised. So why should our 'civilised' behaviour be somehow enacted the same in how we treat animals?
If it is for the sake of protecting harm animals feel toward us, it's both hypocrital for both us and the animals. The animals themselves are also harming other animals. We're omnivores so we also need to eat animals. The animal food we eat just so happens to not be one where we are not reminded there's a chicken slaughtered cruelly at some farmhouse that laters becomes our KFC chicken wing. We dont think of where our food comes from. WE JUST EAT

humans are supposed to be above hurting and killing for fun

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viewmaster_pi posted...

humans are supposed to be above hurting and killing for fun

plenty of ants die when you step on a grass. Micro-organisms on us and around us are dying and killing each other every second right now. What defines the act of killing to you...? We don't give a s*** about some worm getting crushed by a car but we cry when a cat gets crushed by a car.

If you think about it...it's all around us. We just selectively choose to make up our own moral story of what is good and evil.
What are we judging by... the level of brain development in a living thing? We cant even prove trees dont feel pain and arent internally screaming 'ow! ow! ow!'

ChocoboMogALT posted...

Humans are wired to care for animals (especially dogs) in a similar way to caring for babies. We evolved together with dogs and have certain base reactions from that co-evolution. Modern society cares quite a bit more for animals than are instincts guide us to, but when someone breaks that line we see it as a signal that something is incredibly wrong with said person.
From a modern perspective, however, most humans aim to avoid needless suffering. We kill cows as harmlessly as possible and we avoid seeing the deed because it causes us discomfort. Again, someone causing needless pain is viewed as a degenerate.

uh dude, lots of animals get killed mercilessly, not harmlessly at all. Maybe in the west but in most countries and that's where our food supplies come from...slaughterhouses dont give a s***

Laserion posted...

Animals usually hurt each other for food, or for defense. Not for kicks and giggles.

lol
really?
you need to watch more animal documentaries of those carnivores playing with their prey.

There are tactics used, like slowly wearing down the prey, or a poison or chomping down body part by body part while the prey winces in agony. The animal world is cruel

Wutobliteration posted...

plenty of ants die when you step on a grass. Micro-organisms on us and around us are dying and killing each other every second right now. What defines the act of killing to you...?

If you think about it...it's all around us. We just selectively choose to make up our own moral story of what is good and evil

Microorganisms aren't complex enough to have emotions.

We understand things, which is why we hold ourselves to obligation.


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i'm not saying i cry when i see roadkill, shit happens. same for killing an animal to eat it. that's different than killing for fun like a psychopath

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okok I think I got off the wrong foot here. My topic is meant to criticise people like vegans who believe it's wrong to slaughter animals for food. Animal cruelty, yes, is wrong.

I'm talking to those advocates who think it's also wrong we're eating animals

yeah, you def should have made that point in the topic title, lol

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Wutobliteration posted...

uh dude, lots of animals get killed mercilessly, not harmlessly at all. Maybe in the west but in most countries and that's where our food supplies come from...slaughterhouses dont give a s***

Uh dude, you ignored 90% of my post and took a generalization I made about Western culture to areas that are not as food rich.

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Cowthief posted...

As a cat owner lmaoing hard

I guess I should have bolded and italicized "usually" in my post...
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Aspire to be better than a wild animal my dude

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This is a pretty weird idea to hold us to animal morality. Animals rape, murder, etc. even their own kin. That's really not something to aspire to.

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I hope this is a troll topic. The clear answer is because we know better.

The actual pain and suffering an animal feels is no different than that of any other human. That instance of consciousness experiencing that suffering is no different than any human.

The difference is humans are smart enough to comprehend it, and that is what makes the crime indefensible.
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animal abuse comes from torture, not directly eating to sustain themselves

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Arcanine2009 posted...

animal abuse comes from torture, not directly eating to sustain themselves

There are animals that kill/torture other animals for fun though. It's not necessarily a good defense.

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DuranOfForcena posted...

Don't trivialize animal abuse plz kthx

ssjevot posted...

There are animals that kill/torture other animals for fun though. It's not necessarily a good defense.

Sure, felines and other animals do play with their food sometimes. But one can argue mass breeding and caging farm animals in unsanitary conditions and mass slaughter them is animal abuse.

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