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InfinityMonster 07/04/20 11:16:22 AM #51:	https://youtu.be/TzLUgXNeCk8 --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" <cite>InfinityMonster posted [p:941660582] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/TzLUgXNeCk8 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenozoa425 07/04/20 11:17:07 AM #52:	MFBKBass5 posted... but No Child Left Behind was a Bush era policy Most of these older teens and young adults (18-25) you see spent the majority of their K12 education (and some/all of their college) under Obama's 2 terms. But no doubt NCLB also played a role as well. --- "Your flesh is a relic; a mere vessel. Hand over your flesh, and a new world awaits you. We demand it." - 01 Machine Ambassador <cite>Xenozoa425 posted [p:941660612] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>MFBKBass5 posted... </cite> <quote>but No Child Left Behind was a Bush era policy</quote>Most of these older teens and young adults (18-25) you see spent the majority of their K12 education (and some/all of their college) under Obama's 2 terms. But no doubt NCLB also played a role as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 07/04/20 11:18:07 AM #53:	Love America greatest country on earth and founded on ideals which havent always been met, but that can be used to argue in favor of evermore liberty and opportunity for all. lets keep moving in the right direction and make sure we dont lose sight that we are all equal and cant be weighed down by things like race and identity. We are human and we are free to make our own lives. And if not we can protest our hearts out. fuck yeah, show me another place as awesome as here! <cite>Romes187 posted [p:941660641] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Love America greatest country on earth and founded on ideals which havent always been met, but that can be used to argue in favor of evermore liberty and opportunity for all. lets keep moving in the right direction and make sure we dont lose sight that we are all equal and cant be weighed down by things like race and identity. We are human and we are free to make our own lives. And if not we can protest our hearts out. fuck yeah, show me another place as awesome as here! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 07/04/20 11:19:18 AM #54:	Xenozoa425 posted... Most of these older teens and young adults (18-25) you see spent the majority of their K12 education under Obama's 2 terms. But no doubt NCLB also played a role as well. NCLB destroyed the education system and it hasnt been fixed since. It wasnt solely an Obama problem. Americas shitty school system is a result of a broken ass government filled with partisan corruption on both sides. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941660673] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Xenozoa425 posted... </cite> <quote>Most of these older teens and young adults (18-25) you see spent the majority of their K12 education under Obama's 2 terms. But no doubt NCLB also played a role as well.</quote> NCLB destroyed the education system and it hasnt been fixed since. It wasnt solely an Obama problem. Americas shitty school system is a result of a broken ass government filled with partisan corruption on both sides. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Annihilated 07/04/20 11:20:36 AM #55:	MasterVading posted... So you got nothing, thank you for admitting it. Bless you! _ _ _ They know when they are beat, that's why they insult people. <cite>Annihilated posted [p:941660721] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>MasterVading posted... </cite> <quote>So you got nothing, thank you for admitting it. Bless you! _ _ _</quote> They know when they are beat, that's why they insult people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 07/04/20 11:24:28 AM #56:	Blind patriotism will ultimately lead to the downfall the US. Hell, were witnessing it every day now at this point. Shouting about how great America is and how theres nothing better without recognizing the countless atrocities this country has done towards African Americans, Native Americans, and minorities is disgusting. America was built on greed from the beginning. Greed forced our early settlers to destroy an entire population of natives, stealing their land and claiming it as our own. But FREEDOM! MURICA! LAND OF THE FREE! (Unless youre Native American, black, poor, disabled, etc...) --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941660836] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Blind patriotism will ultimately lead to the downfall the US. Hell, were witnessing it every day now at this point. Shouting about how great America is and how theres nothing better without recognizing the countless atrocities this country has done towards African Americans, Native Americans, and minorities is disgusting. America was built on greed from the beginning. Greed forced our early settlers to destroy an entire population of natives, stealing their land and claiming it as our own. But FREEDOM! MURICA! LAND OF THE FREE! (Unless youre Native American, black, poor, disabled, etc...) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 07/04/20 11:25:34 AM #57:	Annihilated posted... They know when they are beat, that's why they insult people. Nah I know enough to not try and reason with a deranged person who cant even form coherent thoughts. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941660874] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Annihilated posted... </cite> <quote>They know when they are beat, that's why they insult people.</quote> Nah I know enough to not try and reason with a deranged person who cant even form coherent thoughts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MFBKBass5 07/04/20 11:29:10 AM #59:	Bullet_Wing posted... His post was really just an attack against some ridiculous strawman caricature of the left that only a very small minority actually resembles. Anyone could just as easily write up a wall of text about Trump and the far right. Ya I tend to not care to respond to delusional right wing talking points that are based on lies in the first place. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941660998] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Bullet_Wing posted... </cite> <quote>His post was really just an attack against some ridiculous strawman caricature of the left that only a very small minority actually resembles. Anyone could just as easily write up a wall of text about Trump and the far right.</quote> Ya I tend to not care to respond to delusional right wing talking points that are based on lies in the first place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarqueeSeries 07/04/20 11:38:09 AM #60:	I was absolutely proud when the people of this country said "enough is enough" and protests against police brutality erupted across the nation. It's one of the few times I've felt that way in my life. Everything else though...not so much. We've let mega corporations run wild, and become a plutocracy. Who the fuck should be proud of that --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 <cite>MarqueeSeries posted [p:941661302] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>I was absolutely proud when the people of this country said "enough is enough" and protests against police brutality erupted across the nation. It's one of the few times I've felt that way in my life. Everything else though...not so much. We've let mega corporations run wild, and become a plutocracy. Who the fuck should be proud of that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 07/04/20 11:43:50 AM #61:	MarqueeSeries posted... I was absolutely proud when the people of this country said "enough is enough" and protests against police brutality erupted across the nation. It's one of the few times I've felt that way in my life. Everything else though...not so much. We've let mega corporations run wild, and become a plutocracy. Who the fuck should be proud of that True. Ive been extremely proud on that end as well. Seeing the transformation the country is currently going through, hopefully Ill be proud to be an American one day. Seeing these protests last over a month now with no end in sight is extremely encouraging. Just hope that one day bigotry will have no place in this country. But right now its encouraged to be a bigot by Trump and his cult of thoughtless supporters. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941661512] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>MarqueeSeries posted... </cite> <quote>I was absolutely proud when the people of this country said "enough is enough" and protests against police brutality erupted across the nation. It's one of the few times I've felt that way in my life. Everything else though...not so much. We've let mega corporations run wild, and become a plutocracy. Who the fuck should be proud of that</quote> True. Ive been extremely proud on that end as well. Seeing the transformation the country is currently going through, hopefully Ill be proud to be an American one day. Seeing these protests last over a month now with no end in sight is extremely encouraging. Just hope that one day bigotry will have no place in this country. But right now its encouraged to be a bigot by Trump and his cult of thoughtless supporters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 07/04/20 11:54:23 AM #62:	MFBKBass5 posted... Blind patriotism will ultimately lead to the downfall the US. Hell, were witnessing it every day now at this point. Shouting about how great America is and how theres nothing better without recognizing the countless atrocities this country has done towards African Americans, Native Americans, and minorities is disgusting. America was built on greed from the beginning. Greed forced our early settlers to destroy an entire population of natives, stealing their land and claiming it as our own. But FREEDOM! MURICA! LAND OF THE FREE! (Unless youre Native American, black, poor, disabled, etc...) we all recognize it and realize that the ideals our country was founded on were used to actually fight in favor of freedom for all. This is your country. This is mine. Its theirs. Its all of ours. you are my brother just like all other Americans and I got nothing but love for all. Its time we stop forgetting about that love and remember were all in this together and want nothing but prosperity for all who work towards it. regardless of what the kayfabe political shows tell you, this country has more love than not. Im not gonna be fooled by the propaganda. Are you? <cite>Romes187 posted [p:941661868] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>MFBKBass5 posted... </cite> <quote>Blind patriotism will ultimately lead to the downfall the US. Hell, were witnessing it every day now at this point. Shouting about how great America is and how theres nothing better without recognizing the countless atrocities this country has done towards African Americans, Native Americans, and minorities is disgusting. America was built on greed from the beginning. Greed forced our early settlers to destroy an entire population of natives, stealing their land and claiming it as our own. But FREEDOM! MURICA! LAND OF THE FREE! (Unless youre Native American, black, poor, disabled, etc...)</quote> we all recognize it and realize that the ideals our country was founded on were used to actually fight in favor of freedom for all. This is your country. This is mine. Its theirs. Its all of ours. you are my brother just like all other Americans and I got nothing but love for all. Its time we stop forgetting about that love and remember were all in this together and want nothing but prosperity for all who work towards it. regardless of what the kayfabe political shows tell you, this country has more love than not. Im not gonna be fooled by the propaganda. Are you? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 07/04/20 11:57:11 AM #63:	Romes187 posted... we all recognize it and realize that the ideals our country was founded on were used to actually fight in favor of freedom for all. This is your country. This is mine. Its theirs. Its all of ours. you are my brother just like all other Americans and I got nothing but love for all. Its time we stop forgetting about that love and remember were all in this together and want nothing but prosperity for all who work towards it. regardless of what the kayfabe political shows tell you, this country has more love than not. Im not gonna be fooled by the propaganda. Are you? say that to those trying to strip away LGBTQ rights and those who are openly racist towards their fellow Americans, and get back to me. I agree with your sentiment, and wish it were that simple. But thats not realistically what America is today. Look through the comments section of ANY minority female elected official and try and tell me that this country is full of love. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941661960] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Romes187 posted... </cite> <quote>we all recognize it and realize that the ideals our country was founded on were used to actually fight in favor of freedom for all. This is your country. This is mine. Its theirs. Its all of ours. you are my brother just like all other Americans and I got nothing but love for all. Its time we stop forgetting about that love and remember were all in this together and want nothing but prosperity for all who work towards it. regardless of what the kayfabe political shows tell you, this country has more love than not. Im not gonna be fooled by the propaganda. Are you?</quote> say that to those trying to strip away LGBTQ rights and those who are openly racist towards their fellow Americans, and get back to me. I agree with your sentiment, and wish it were that simple. But thats not realistically what America is today. Look through the comments section of ANY minority female elected official and try and tell me that this country is full of love. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 07/04/20 12:07:23 PM #64:	https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/what-slave-fourth-july-frederick-douglass/ It's a long read, but it still resonates. And I hear this Frederick Douglass guy is being recognized more and more! <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:941662255] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/what-slave-fourth-july-frederick-douglass/ It's a long read, but it still resonates. And I hear this Frederick Douglass guy is being recognized more and more! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 07/04/20 12:08:21 PM #65:	MFBKBass5 posted... say that to those trying to strip away LGBTQ rights and those who are openly racist towards their fellow Americans, and get back to me. I agree with your sentiment, and wish it were that simple. But thats not realistically what America is today. Look through the comments section of ANY minority female elected official and try and tell me that this country is full of love. this country is absolutely full of love and I still love you despite us disagreeing. We all grind through the day. We all try our best to get through our own suffering. lets fight that discrimination together and do it with unity in mind. Lets make sure we stand up and FIGHT Together for the ideal we want instead of letting a few loud voices at the top continue to breed division. they are not our voice. The voice of america has always been its citizens. And there are a ton screaming that voice loudly, and there are a few screaming nefariously. lets work together and do it with love. That is the only way forward. We have our founding documents to appeal to and unify. We are all equal. <cite>Romes187 posted [p:941662289] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>MFBKBass5 posted... </cite> <quote>say that to those trying to strip away LGBTQ rights and those who are openly racist towards their fellow Americans, and get back to me. I agree with your sentiment, and wish it were that simple. But thats not realistically what America is today. Look through the comments section of ANY minority female elected official and try and tell me that this country is full of love.</quote> this country is absolutely full of love and I still love you despite us disagreeing. We all grind through the day. We all try our best to get through our own suffering. lets fight that discrimination together and do it with unity in mind. Lets make sure we stand up and FIGHT Together for the ideal we want instead of letting a few loud voices at the top continue to breed division. they are not our voice. The voice of america has always been its citizens. And there are a ton screaming that voice loudly, and there are a few screaming nefariously. lets work together and do it with love. That is the only way forward. We have our founding documents to appeal to and unify. We are all equal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 07/04/20 12:11:19 PM #66:	Romes187 posted... this country is absolutely full of love and I still love you despite us disagreeing. We all grind through the day. We all try our best to get through our own suffering. lets fight that discrimination together and do it with unity in mind. Lets make sure we stand up and FIGHT Together for the ideal we want instead of letting a few loud voices at the top continue to breed division. they are not our voice. The voice of america has always been its citizens. And there are a ton screaming that voice loudly, and there are a few screaming nefariously. lets work together and do it with love. That is the only way forward. We have our founding documents to appeal to and unify. We are all equal. Actually, they do represent our citizens. History has proven that were not all equal, either. I dont think you understand the entire concept of systemic racism. Id suggest you do some research before simply offering lets love each other! as your only solution. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941662407] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Romes187 posted... </cite> <quote>this country is absolutely full of love and I still love you despite us disagreeing. We all grind through the day. We all try our best to get through our own suffering. lets fight that discrimination together and do it with unity in mind. Lets make sure we stand up and FIGHT Together for the ideal we want instead of letting a few loud voices at the top continue to breed division. they are not our voice. The voice of america has always been its citizens. And there are a ton screaming that voice loudly, and there are a few screaming nefariously. lets work together and do it with love. That is the only way forward. We have our founding documents to appeal to and unify. We are all equal.</quote> Actually, they do represent our citizens. History has proven that were not all equal, either. I dont think you understand the entire concept of systemic racism. Id suggest you do some research before simply offering lets love each other! as your only solution. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 07/04/20 12:13:02 PM #67:	MFBKBass5 posted... Actually, they do represent our citizens. History has proven that were not all equal, either. I dont think you understand the entire concept of systemic racism. Id suggest you do some research before simply offering lets love each other! as your only solution. my brother, all I can offer is my love and respect. And en masse, its a force to be reckoned with. Dont forget <cite>Romes187 posted [p:941662467] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>MFBKBass5 posted... </cite> <quote>Actually, they do represent our citizens. History has proven that were not all equal, either. I dont think you understand the entire concept of systemic racism. Id suggest you do some research before simply offering lets love each other! as your only solution.</quote> my brother, all I can offer is my love and respect. And en masse, its a force to be reckoned with. Dont forget </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 07/04/20 12:14:45 PM #68:	Romes187 posted... my brother, all I can offer is my love and respect. And en masse, its a force to be reckoned with. Dont forget You can also recognize that your view of America is a fluffed up version thats hiding the reality that is racism in America. Love is great. Being kind to everyone is great. What would your suggestion be to stop the massive amount of racist remarks posted on social media by Americans every single day? --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941662521] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Romes187 posted... </cite> <quote>my brother, all I can offer is my love and respect. And en masse, its a force to be reckoned with. Dont forget</quote> You can also recognize that your view of America is a fluffed up version thats hiding the reality that is racism in America. Love is great. Being kind to everyone is great. What would your suggestion be to stop the massive amount of racist remarks posted on social media by Americans every single day? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 07/04/20 12:16:33 PM #69:	MFBKBass5 posted... You can also recognize that your view of America is a fluffed up version thats hiding the reality that is racism in America. Love is great. Being kind to everyone is great. What would your suggestion be to stop the massive amount of racist remarks posted on social media by Americans every single day? become the change you want to see. Its our greatest power as an individual. That love will be fought against at first, but its contagious. <cite>Romes187 posted [p:941662589] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>MFBKBass5 posted... </cite> <quote>You can also recognize that your view of America is a fluffed up version thats hiding the reality that is racism in America. Love is great. Being kind to everyone is great. What would your suggestion be to stop the massive amount of racist remarks posted on social media by Americans every single day?</quote> become the change you want to see. Its our greatest power as an individual. That love will be fought against at first, but its contagious. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 07/04/20 12:17:39 PM #70:	Romes187 posted... become the change you want to see. Its our greatest power as an individual. That love will be fought against at first, but its contagious. ok go say that to the racist, vile humans that occupy Facebook comment pages and get back to me with the results. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941662633] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Romes187 posted... </cite> <quote>become the change you want to see. Its our greatest power as an individual. That love will be fought against at first, but its contagious.</quote> ok go say that to the racist, vile humans that occupy Facebook comment pages and get back to me with the results. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Autocraticus 07/04/20 12:18:37 PM #71:	Super proud. Y'all crazy. <cite>Autocraticus posted [p:941662672] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Super proud. Y'all crazy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 07/04/20 12:20:13 PM #72:	MFBKBass5 posted... ok go say that to the racist, vile humans that occupy Facebook comment pages and get back to me with the results. I didnt say it would be easy. I didnt say there wouldnt be pushback. Its hard. <cite>Romes187 posted [p:941662729] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>MFBKBass5 posted... </cite> <quote>ok go say that to the racist, vile humans that occupy Facebook comment pages and get back to me with the results.</quote> I didnt say it would be easy. I didnt say there wouldnt be pushback. Its hard. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 07/04/20 12:21:54 PM #73:	Romes187 posted... I didnt say it would be easy. I didnt say there wouldnt be pushback. Its hard. I agree. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941662793] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Romes187 posted... </cite> <quote>I didnt say it would be easy. I didnt say there wouldnt be pushback. Its hard.</quote> I agree. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 07/04/20 12:22:33 PM #74:	Autocraticus posted... Super proud. Y'all crazy. You know thats a moddable offense right --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941662814] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Autocraticus posted... </cite> <quote>Super proud. Y'all crazy.</quote> You know thats a moddable offense right </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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meralonne 07/04/20 12:47:29 PM #76:	MasterVading posted... So you got nothing, thank you for admitting it. No. I think the problem is that your tirade was so full of blatant projection that it cannot be responded to in any way. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:941663741] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>MasterVading posted... </cite> <quote>So you got nothing, thank you for admitting it.</quote> No. I think the problem is that your tirade was so full of blatant projection that it cannot be responded to in any way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thrashmetal14 07/04/20 12:49:15 PM #77:	I'm proud of the good people and communities in this country. Never proud of the government. <cite>thrashmetal14 posted [p:941663822] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>I'm proud of the good people and communities in this country. Never proud of the government. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 07/04/20 12:50:21 PM #78:	thrashmetal14 posted... I'm proud of the good people and communities in this country. Never proud of the government. there we go. I can get behind that for sure. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941663871] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>thrashmetal14 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm proud of the good people and communities in this country. Never proud of the government.</quote> there we go. I can get behind that for sure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 07/04/20 12:52:31 PM #79:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2bOXQibamM --- https://imgur.com/i9oVpG0 <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:941663949] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2bOXQibamM </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 07/04/20 2:32:09 PM #80:	MFBKBass5 posted... Shouting about how great America is and how theres nothing better without recognizing the countless atrocities this country has done towards African Americans, Native Americans, and minorities is disgusting. If youre going to choose to feel shame for injustices that you did not do, then by that logic you should also choose to feel pride for the good the nation has done. Likewise, you can ignore all the good, which a lot of people do and that's Ok, but then it doesnt make sense to accept all the bad. Your stance is in conflict and unreasonable. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:941667904] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>MFBKBass5 posted... </cite> <quote>Shouting about how great America is and how theres nothing better without recognizing the countless atrocities this country has done towards African Americans, Native Americans, and minorities is disgusting. </quote> If youre going to choose to feel shame for injustices that you did not do, then by that logic you should also choose to feel pride for the good the nation has done. Likewise, you can ignore all the good, which a lot of people do and that's Ok, but then it doesnt make sense to accept all the bad. Your stance is in conflict and unreasonable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 07/04/20 2:33:38 PM #81:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... If youre going to choose to feel shame for injustices that you did not do, then by that logic you should also choose to feel pride for the good the nation has done. Likewise, you can ignore all the good, which a lot of people do and that's Ok, but then it doesnt make sense to accept all the bad. Your stance is in conflict and unreasonable. How is there any logic in this statement? No, actually, feeling shame and feeling good dont go hand in hand the way you just described at all. Your stance is in illogical correlations. Gotcha --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941667969] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Lorenzo_2003 posted... </cite> <quote>If youre going to choose to feel shame for injustices that you did not do, then by that logic you should also choose to feel pride for the good the nation has done. Likewise, you can ignore all the good, which a lot of people do and that's Ok, but then it doesnt make sense to accept all the bad. Your stance is in conflict and unreasonable.</quote> How is there any logic in this statement? No, actually, feeling shame and feeling good dont go hand in hand the way you just described at all. Your stance is in illogical correlations. Gotcha </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DontHateMe 07/04/20 2:37:27 PM #83:	No one should be proud. Anyone that is proud is just trolling or a racist, maybe both O.O --- Too Complicated. <cite>DontHateMe posted [p:941668148] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>No one should be proud. Anyone that is proud is just trolling or a racist, maybe both O.O </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BruceWayneJr 07/04/20 2:40:05 PM #84:	I was ashamed when I paid attention in high school US History class. I was ashamed when Bush won by using homophobia and war. I was ashamed when Obama won and my co-workers felt free to make racist jokes out in the open. I was ashamed when Trump won the nomination and my friends lied about supporting him, then voted for him. I was ashamed when Trump won the presidency with racism, then went on to use racism during his presidency and it didn't seem to be the final straw for the majority of the country. Fuck America. --- Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. <cite>BruceWayneJr posted [p:941668261] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>I was ashamed when I paid attention in high school US History class. I was ashamed when Bush won by using homophobia and war. I was ashamed when Obama won and my co-workers felt free to make racist jokes out in the open. I was ashamed when Trump won the nomination and my friends lied about supporting him, then voted for him. I was ashamed when Trump won the presidency with racism, then went on to use racism during his presidency and it didn't seem to be the final straw for the majority of the country. Fuck America. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Game_Fan09 07/04/20 2:40:51 PM #85:	Don't let politics divide us. It'll be a sad day when America collectively abandons their beliefs as a nation. --- Hurry up next gen <cite>Game_Fan09 posted [p:941668300] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Don't let politics divide us. It'll be a sad day when America collectively abandons their beliefs as a nation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 07/04/20 2:41:09 PM #86:	BruceWayneJr posted... I was ashamed when I paid attention in high school US History class. I was ashamed when Bush won by using homophobia and war. I was ashamed when Obama won and my co-workers felt free to make racist jokes out in the open. I was ashamed when Trump won the nomination and my friends lied about supporting him, then voted for him. I was ashamed when Trump won the presidency with racism, then went on to use racism during his presidency and it didn't seem to be the final straw for the majority of the country. Fuck America. quoted for truth --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941668310] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>BruceWayneJr posted... </cite> <quote>I was ashamed when I paid attention in high school US History class. I was ashamed when Bush won by using homophobia and war. I was ashamed when Obama won and my co-workers felt free to make racist jokes out in the open. I was ashamed when Trump won the nomination and my friends lied about supporting him, then voted for him. I was ashamed when Trump won the presidency with racism, then went on to use racism during his presidency and it didn't seem to be the final straw for the majority of the country. Fuck America.</quote> quoted for truth </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 07/04/20 2:41:24 PM #87:	MFBKBass5 posted... How is there any logic in this statement? No, actually, feeling shame and feeling good dont go hand in hand the way you just described at all. Your stance is in illogical correlations. Gotcha You are upset the US has blood in its history and still has injustices to correct. This is true and accurate. None of these things involved you or me, but you think we should feel shame for it anyway. Thats Ok, except you made this thread because you do not want to recognize anything good about the US, so you dont think its worth being proud of. Again, that is an unreasonable stance. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:941668326] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>MFBKBass5 posted... </cite> <quote>How is there any logic in this statement? No, actually, feeling shame and feeling good dont go hand in hand the way you just described at all. Your stance is in illogical correlations. Gotcha </quote> You are upset the US has blood in its history and still has injustices to correct. This is true and accurate. None of these things involved you or me, but you think we should feel shame for it anyway. Thats Ok, except you made this thread because you do not want to recognize anything good about the US, so you dont think its worth being proud of. Again, that is an unreasonable stance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 07/04/20 2:43:03 PM #88:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... You are upset the US has blood in its history and still has injustices to correct. This is true and accurate. None of these things involved you or me, but you think we should feel shame for it anyway. Thats Ok, except you made this thread because you do not want to recognize anything good about the US, so you dont think its worth being proud of. Again, that is an unreasonable stance. Sorry you feel that way, dude. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941668379] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Lorenzo_2003 posted... </cite> <quote>You are upset the US has blood in its history and still has injustices to correct. This is true and accurate. None of these things involved you or me, but you think we should feel shame for it anyway. Thats Ok, except you made this thread because you do not want to recognize anything good about the US, so you dont think its worth being proud of. Again, that is an unreasonable stance.</quote> Sorry you feel that way, dude. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Game_Fan09 07/04/20 2:46:28 PM #89:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... You are upset the US has blood in its history and still has injustices to correct. This is true and accurate. None of these things involved you or me, but you think we should feel shame for it anyway. Thats Ok, except you made this thread because you do not want to recognize anything good about the US, so you dont think its worth being proud of. Again, that is an unreasonable stance. You won't find a nation on Earth that doesn't have "blood in its history". I'd argue every other nation out there can do more for the betterment of their people. --- Hurry up next gen <cite>Game_Fan09 posted [p:941668532] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Lorenzo_2003 posted... </cite> <quote>You are upset the US has blood in its history and still has injustices to correct. This is true and accurate. None of these things involved you or me, but you think we should feel shame for it anyway. Thats Ok, except you made this thread because you do not want to recognize anything good about the US, so you dont think its worth being proud of. Again, that is an unreasonable stance.</quote>You won't find a nation on Earth that doesn't have "blood in its history". I'd argue every other nation out there can do more for the betterment of their people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StarReaper13 07/04/20 2:49:12 PM #90:	Nope. I couldn't care less about the 4th of July, since when it originally happened and "America was free" or whatever shit they say, had I been there at the time I'd have been a slave. Hell, I had ancestors that were slaves back then and they weren't free. That and the fact that there are people who unironically think the Confederates (who were traitors in every sense of the word) weren't absolute scumbags still amazes me in all the wrong ways. --- Ignore when people say that the title length is not important, that a title should just convey what the game is about. They're just jealous theirs isn't as long <cite>StarReaper13 posted [p:941668640] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Nope. I couldn't care less about the 4th of July, since when it originally happened and "America was free" or whatever shit they say, had I been there at the time I'd have been a slave. Hell, I had ancestors that were slaves back then and they weren't free. That and the fact that there are people who unironically think the Confederates (who were traitors in every sense of the word) weren't absolute scumbags still amazes me in all the wrong ways. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 07/04/20 2:52:03 PM #91:	Im a proud American --- Jive Turkey <cite>nativengine posted [p:941668774] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Im a proud American </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 07/04/20 2:53:24 PM #92:	I've never been proud to be something I had no control over. But I am glad I'm American, even if right now we're fuckin up really hard Also couldn't give less of a shit about what the rest of this supremely flawed and fucked up world thinks about it --- Common sense is the most uncommon thing in the world-some dude. <cite>Smackems posted [p:941668832] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>I've never been proud to be something I had no control over. But I am glad I'm American, even if right now we're fuckin up really hard Also couldn't give less of a shit about what the rest of this supremely flawed and fucked up world thinks about it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 07/04/20 2:54:45 PM #93:	Smackems posted... I've never been proud to be something I had no control over. But I am glad I'm American, even if right now we're fuckin up really hard I feel ya. Although technically you do have control over whether youre currently an American or not. You could always move away if you had the means. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941668896] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>I've never been proud to be something I had no control over. But I am glad I'm American, even if right now we're fuckin up really hard</quote> I feel ya. Although technically you do have control over whether youre currently an American or not. You could always move away if you had the means. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 07/04/20 2:56:57 PM #94:	MFBKBass5 posted... I feel ya. Although technically you do have control over whether youre currently an American or not. You could always move away if you had the means. I'd love to move somewhere like Montana in the middle of nowhere, but alas, responsibility keeps me in this hellhole I'm in --- Common sense is the most uncommon thing in the world-some dude. <cite>Smackems posted [p:941668979] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>MFBKBass5 posted... </cite> <quote>I feel ya. Although technically you do have control over whether youre currently an American or not. You could always move away if you had the means.</quote>I'd love to move somewhere like Montana in the middle of nowhere, but alas, responsibility keeps me in this hellhole I'm in </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 07/04/20 2:57:53 PM #95:	Smackems posted... I'd love to move somewhere like Montana in the middle of nowhere, but alas, responsibility keeps me in this hellhole I'm in Yep. Part of the American way...being so tied to your job that going somewhere that would make you happier is nearly impossible unless you fall into a lot of cash somehow. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941669020] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>I'd love to move somewhere like Montana in the middle of nowhere, but alas, responsibility keeps me in this hellhole I'm in</quote> Yep. Part of the American way...being so tied to your job that going somewhere that would make you happier is nearly impossible unless you fall into a lot of cash somehow. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/04/20 2:59:39 PM #96:	I happened to be born within borders. I feel neither pride nor shame for the actions of the government of those borders --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:941669085] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>I happened to be born within borders. I feel neither pride nor shame for the actions of the government of those borders </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heartomaton 07/04/20 3:04:58 PM #98:	No one should be proud of being born in a certain place. You can be glad, but being proud implies an accomplishment, and being a certain nationality is not one. --- https://www.youtube.com/user/Heartomaton Ask me about the groups of people I hate! <cite>Heartomaton posted [p:941669279] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>No one should be proud of being born in a certain place. You can be glad, but being proud implies an accomplishment, and being a certain nationality is not one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 07/04/20 3:07:28 PM #99:	Heartomaton posted... No one should be proud of being born in a certain place. You can be glad, but being proud implies an accomplishment, and being a certain nationality is not one. but the song says PROUD TO BE AN AMERICANNNNN --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941669373] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Heartomaton posted... </cite> <quote>No one should be proud of being born in a certain place. You can be glad, but being proud implies an accomplishment, and being a certain nationality is not one.</quote> but the song says PROUD TO BE AN AMERICANNNNN </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heartomaton 07/04/20 3:08:22 PM #100:	MFBKBass5 posted... but the song says PROUD TO BE AN AMERICANNNNN That song is trash. --- https://www.youtube.com/user/Heartomaton Ask me about the groups of people I hate! <cite>Heartomaton posted [p:941669412] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>MFBKBass5 posted... </cite> <quote>but the song says PROUD TO BE AN AMERICANNNNN</quote> That song is trash. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 07/04/20 3:09:25 PM #101:	Heartomaton posted... That song is trash. Yeah it is. Honestly I hate all patriotic music. Sousa marches. Stars and Stripes forever. All of that bull shit. its so cheesy --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:941669447] in Should Ame... [t:78823849]...</cite> <quote>Heartomaton posted... </cite> <quote>That song is trash.</quote> Yeah it is. Honestly I hate all patriotic music. Sousa marches. Stars and Stripes forever. All of that bull shit. its so cheesy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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