Current Events > Is food addiction/being fat the worst one?

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Beating every other kind of addiction is just stop doing the thing, where with obesity its like Okay you still need to do this thing, and you gotta make sure to have plenty of different healthy versions of it that need to be purchased, prepared and cooked, and also you gotta exercise daily, and also society will try to pull you off the wagon at every turn because delicious food is celebrated and a party of everyday life.
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EffectAndCause posted...

Beating every other kind of addiction is just stop doing the thing

you're wrong about that
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It's probably detrimental that you can't just quit food cold turkey.

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nfearurspecimn posted...

you're wrong about that

This, but also, food addiction should be considered as seriously as other addictions.

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Working with addicts as a profession has taught me that drug addiction has many faces and affects all walks of life.

That being said, I don't think obesity can even be talked about in the same breath as substance abuse.

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AloneIBreak posted...

It's probably detrimental that you can't just quit food cold turkey.

This. Could you imagine how hard it would be to quit drugs or drinking if you had to just diminish the amount you used but still used it every day?

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Guide posted...

This, but also, food addiction should be considered as seriously as other addictions.

Agreed. It's not as easy/simple as people make it out to be.
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nfearurspecimn posted...

you're wrong about that

Examples?
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Drug addiction isn't as simple as "just don't do it anymore". You have to change your lifestyle, avoid all people associated with your drug use which isn't an easy thing to do in some cases. You have to avoid triggers and proactively add positive things into your life. Sometimes you have to go to rehab and you can die from just quitting cold turkey. You basically have to rebuild your whole life.
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The point im making is youre not forced to do SOME drugs but just the right kind of drugs as you try to quit drugs, while having society in general encouraging your drug use.

Like you can stop taking drugs entirely, you cant stop eating food entirely.
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EffectAndCause posted...

you cant stop eating food entirely

No, but you can stop eating unhealthy food that you crave. I didn't say it was easy, it's still an addiction.
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Easily the worst. I can't even fathom booze and cigarettes and meth addiction, all stuff that I have no interest in. But my obsession with sugar? Especially coupled with my loneliness and depression? It basically trumps everything else. Because with obesity you need to do a year's worth of exercise to undo just one month of falling off the wagon.

And the worst part that's never mentioned is that it shows. With other addictions, its all internal, literally, but with obesity and food addiction its displayed right there whenever anyone takes a glance at you. Which hurts self esteem and further contributes to binge eating and sugar addiction.

nfearurspecimn posted...

No, but you can stop eating unhealthy food that you crave.

The thing is that there are millions of kinds of foods all with their pros and cons, so its really easy to ease back into eating unhealthy without even realizing it.

Also there are a TON of different diets and contradicting advice you get, where with drugs its simply dont do them.
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EffectAndCause posted...

Beating every other kind of addiction is just stop doing the thing

Literally wrong

RadiantAdolin posted...

Literally wrong

Examples?
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lol
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EffectAndCause posted...

Examples?

Reality in general?

If it were that easy, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't find AA and NA and CA and GA and MA and so on all over the place.

Noumas posted...

And the worst part that's never mentioned is that it shows. With other addictions, its all internal, literally,

You'd be surprised.

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EffectAndCause posted...

Examples?

Literally every single person that I helped treat for it?

For one, "stop doing the thing" is a huge deal, and for two, there's shit loads of extra baggage and struggles to work through beyond "just don't use".

RadiantAdolin posted...

Literally every single person that I helped treat for it?

For one, "stop doing the thing" is a huge deal, and for two, there's shit loads of extra baggage and struggles to work through beyond "just don't use".

Youre missing my point. Im saying that with drug addiction the goal is to not do them anymore at all, the end goal is simple and black and white, with food you are not able to do that.
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DrizztLink posted...

If it were that easy, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't find AA and NA and CA and GA and MA and so on all over the place.

Youre missing my point. Im saying that with drug addiction the goal is to not do them anymore at all, the end goal is simple and black and white, with food you are not able to do that.
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And you're missing the point of everyone else.

It's

Not

That

Simple

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Any addiction is hard to beat if you want to be dramatic.

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DrizztLink posted...

And you're missing the point of everyone else.

It's

Not

That

Simple

Did I say beating addiction was easy? Im saying that the SOLUTION to all other addictions is simple, even if the road there is not.

With food you still need to encounter the thing youre addicted to all day every day to survive. And in society the thing youre addicted to is celebrated all around the world.
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Absolutely not. You can change your lifestyle overnight and if you stick with it you will lose the weight and get healthy before you know it. It's a guarantee, and there's very little consequence for relapse because you can pick up just a few hundred or thousand calories from where you left off. If you relapse from sobriety you destroy your entire recovery and risk OD.

That said, there needs to be more attention paid to food addiction.

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I think people are missing the point.

Like the TC said, I don't think he or she honestly thinks that "just stop it" is the only thing one has to do. He or she is just saying. With drug addictions you as asked to stop doing drugs. However with food addictions people still have to eat.

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It's probably up there on hardest to personally grapple. However, substance abuse 100% leads to more destructive behavior

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