Current Events > Craft breweries are in financial trouble

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https://fox40.com/news/financial-ruin-could-be-brewing-for-u-s-craft-breweries/

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They were in trouble before the pandemic. The market was oversaturated with a ton of mediocre breweries popping up all over the US.

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There is a lot of shitty craft beer out there. Maybe well intentioned, but not that good.

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Too many microbreweries fall into the trap of Ill make shit I like rather than Ill make shit customers will buy.

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HydraSlayer82 posted...

Too many microbreweries fall into the trap of Ill make shit I like rather than Ill make shit customers will buy.

disagree. I think its the opposite. Theyre all making shitty light beers that are easily accessible to people who dont like the taste of beer. Generic light lagers and fruity ass shit that just tries to mimic blue moon or other light beers like bud light.

all these new breweries make like 4 different styles. - American lager, ipa, Pilsner, or wheat beers.

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Are we over the IPA trend yet? Such a shite type of beer in 99% of cases

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Good

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MFBKBass5 posted...

They were in trouble before the pandemic. The market was oversaturated with a ton of mediocre breweries popping up all over the US.

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pinky0926 posted...

Are we over the IPA trend yet? Such a shite type of beer in 99% of cases

The vast majority of European travelers I served either wanted an import or a strong American-made IPA.

MFBKBass5 posted...

They were in trouble before the pandemic. The market was oversaturated with a ton of mediocre breweries popping up all over the US.

this. A lot of big breweries were joining forces or getting bought up well before the pandemic.

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There's this local place that makes mead. As long as they survive, I'm good.

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EnragedSlith posted...

The vast majority of European travelers I served either wanted an import or a strong American-made IPA.

this. A lot of big breweries were joining forces or getting bought up well before the pandemic.

I would probably want an American IPA if I was in America just to see if it's any better, because the crap we get here is tastes like dried marijuana steeped in cold water.


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Good hopefully those dumb fuck beer snobs will dry up with them.

We're hitting record sales where I'm at. Helps that we have a huge outdoor space though. But even when we couldn't have on-site consumption, we got steady business thanks to our partnership with great food trucks.

It feels like a lot of the breweries in this area adapted well though.
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More like CRAP BEER.

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MFBKBass5 posted...

disagree. I think its the opposite. Theyre all making shitty light beers that are easily accessible to people who dont like the taste of beer. Generic light lagers and fruity ass shit that just tries to mimic blue moon or other light beers like bud light.

all these new breweries make like 4 different styles. - American lager, ipa, Pilsner, or wheat beers.

There are at least a dozen breweries within two miles of my house and I dont think this describes any of them

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pinky0926 posted...

I would probably want an American IPA if I was in America just to see if it's any better, because the crap we get here is tastes like dried marijuana steeped in cold water.

It's not.

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EnragedSlith posted...

The vast majority of European travelers I served either wanted an import or a strong American-made IPA.

light beers are offensive and american beers are hit or miss, so i understand where they're coming from

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TheGoldenEel posted...

There are at least a dozen breweries within two miles of my house and I dont think this describes any of them

here in Texas thats what it feels like. At least with the breweries that dont pick up steam. They try and play it safe but dont really ever get noticed

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DrizztLink posted...

It's not.

figures. We've mostly moved on to saisons, but I don't find them any better.

I just want a simple pale or pilsner. i want it to taste like beer, you know?

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pinky0926 posted...

figures. We've mostly moved on to saisons, but I don't find them any better.

I just want a simple pale or pilsner. i want it to taste like beer, you know?

but saison is a type of beer

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MFBKBass5 posted...

but saison is a type of beer

I may be ignorant but how is that different to an IPA?

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pinky0926 posted...

I may be ignorant but how is that different to an IPA?

Saison (French for season) are farmhouse ales. They are in the pale ale family (not to be confused with India Pale Ale) and tend to be more heavily carbonated, and stronger fruit notes. The ones I like tend to have notes of lemon, and err on the tart side of saison.

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pinky0926 posted...

Are we over the IPA trend yet? Such a shite type of beer in 99% of cases

Damn you are not even American and you get this.
It's true. I just worked at a place that sold a ton of Craft beer, I think like 95% was IPA's.
That shit smells and tastes like cat piss to me.
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The issue with the IPA trend is that it is a bit more accessible in terms of extreme flavor beers, compared to triples, quads, imperial stouts, Flemish sours, etc.

Granted, when I see people rant about IPAs they tend to focus entirely on the dank bombs which is more typical in West coast style. The new trend (at least on the East Coast) is New England hazy styles, which tend to be bombastically tropical and juicy as opposed to bong water.

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IPAs are delicious. Single IPAs, doubles, hazy, milkshake IPAS. Northeast IPAs, west coast IPAs, American IPAs. So good.

dat hop flavor is delicious. Its a cousin of the marijuana plant too. DAT DANKINESS is delicious.

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MFBKBass5 posted...

They were in trouble before the pandemic. The market was oversaturated with a ton of mediocre breweries popping up all over the US.

MFBKBass5 posted...

IPAs are delicious. Single IPAs, doubles, hazy, milkshake IPAS. Northeast IPAs, west coast IPAs, American IPAs. So good.

dat hop flavor is delicious. Its a cousin of the marijuana plant too. DAT DANKINESS is delicious.

There is Hemp beer as well!
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pinky0926 posted...

I may be ignorant but how is that different to an IPA?

actually historically saisons date back much further than IPAs.

so while I know what you mean when you say you want beer to taste like beer, technically saisons date back to the Middle Ages, so they have a much longer history of being associated with a beer taste

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pinky0926 posted...

Are we over the IPA trend yet? Such a shite type of beer in 99% of cases

This! Hate getting a sampler pack that's more than half ipas.

Atralis posted...

This! Hate getting a sampler pack that's more than half ipas.

dont buy the sampler if you dont like whats included in the box lol

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MFBKBass5 posted...

dont buy the sampler if you dont like whats included in the box lol

It's usually a much better deal though. 15 for 12 vs 10 for 6. I dont hate ipas just dont like them as much.

IPAs are great >.>
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Atralis posted...

It's usually a much better deal though. 15 for 12 vs 10 for 6.

damn where are you seeing 15 pack samplers? Everywhere here is usually a 12 pack sampler for like $16 bucks. 4 different beers, 3 each.

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I like IPAs but there are a lot of really mediocre IPAs out there. They are just an easy beer for craft breweries to make because you can hide a lot of imperfections behind the IBUs. It's much harder to make something like a lager because if you mess up you'll definitely taste it.

The same thing applies to sours, which is why you have a lot of craft breweries coming out with sours that are just sour for the sake of sour.

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It's capitalism- the good ones will survive, the shitty ones will die

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MFBKBass5 posted...

damn where are you seeing 15 pack samplers? Everywhere here is usually a 12 pack sampler for like $16 bucks. 4 different beers, 3 each.

Meant dollars for beer. But in CO at least there is a nice breckenridge brewery sampler 15 cans for $15. Assume it's in other places since breckenridge was bought out by one of the big ones.

MFBKBass5 posted...

They were in trouble before the pandemic. The market was oversaturated with a ton of mediocre breweries popping up all over the US.

Pretty much this, way too many beers on the market.

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Gheb posted...

I like IPAs but there are a lot of really mediocre IPAs out there. They are just an easy beer for craft breweries to make because you can hide a lot of imperfections behind the IBUs. It's much harder to make something like a lager because if you mess up you'll definitely taste it.

The same thing applies to sours, which is why you have a lot of craft breweries coming out with sours that are just sour for the sake of sour.

Thats true. Although, I think a lot of people that dont like IPAs are possibly drinking old IPAs. Even like 2 months after theyre canned, the flavor profile changes a ton compared to a fresh can.

If you can get an IPA canned less than a month from when you drink it, youll notice a big difference compared to one thats 3 months old.

The issue is, with so many breweries out there now, some IPAs sit on the shelves for 6 months at a grocery store.

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pinky0926 posted...

Are we over the IPA trend yet? Such a shite type of beer in 99% of cases

thissss

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Gheb posted...

I like IPAs but there are a lot of really mediocre IPAs out there. They are just an easy beer for craft breweries to make because you can hide a lot of imperfections behind the IBUs. It's much harder to make something like a lager because if you mess up you'll definitely taste it.

The same thing applies to sours, which is why you have a lot of craft breweries coming out with sours that are just sour for the sake of sour.

I agree with this. It's easier for smaller breweries to make a base beer that they add different things to in iterations, and this kinda ironically leads to a lack of variety because those things end up tasting so much alike that you can't differentiate one product from another.

Even some of my favorite breweries are guilty of this.

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Darker Cheshire posted...

Saison (French for season) are farmhouse ales. They are in the pale ale family (not to be confused with India Pale Ale) and tend to be more heavily carbonated, and stronger fruit notes. The ones I like tend to have notes of lemon, and err on the tart side of saison.

I know that, I was just responding to him saying but saiso n is a type of beer

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Darker Cheshire posted...

The issue with the IPA trend is that it is a bit more accessible in terms of extreme flavor beers, compared to triples, quads, imperial stouts, Flemish sours, etc.

Granted, when I see people rant about IPAs they tend to focus entirely on the dank bombs which is more typical in West coast style. The new trend (at least on the East Coast) is New England hazy styles, which tend to be bombastically tropical and juicy as opposed to bong water.

It's true, all of the local microbrew IPAs I tried in San Diego tasted like bong water. At least they have high alcohol content.

Lukey_Bug posted...

Good

why?

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pinky0926 posted...

Are we over the IPA trend yet? Such a shite type of beer in 99% of cases

Dude there are some good IPAs out there lol

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GodIsImaginary posted...

It's true, all of the local microbrew IPAs I tried in San Diego tasted like bong water. At least they have high alcohol content.

Oh, San Diego has way too many good breweries to waste time on anything but really well-reviewed IPAs

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"Dank" IPAs seem to be in vogue now and they're all terrible.

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never got the IPA hate. though, there are some shitty one's.

MrPeppers posted...

Dude there are some good IPAs out there lol

Some sure

I just didnt quite get why it became a sensation

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