Current Events > Reparations Billboard put up off the bridges of NYC

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And to expand off of that there was an original video that only showed her pulling the gun and people were gunning after the lady defending herself and anyone who wanted additional context was being called a racist for goddamned daring to question the mother and daughter.

MachineJaipur posted...

And who sold the slaves off the coast of Africa (hint it wasn't white people).

It was those look up the Lancados. They were the Europeans who set up the slave trading forts. Often times villages were held hostage, taken for ransom and threatened with destruction if they didn't cooperate and supply means for slaves. Often times tribal wars were started out of an either them or us situation.

MachineJaipur posted...

So you want to punish an entire world for the sins of its fathers. Because you can't just magic $15-20 Trillion out of thin air to give to a disaffected group.

Not to mention the potential social ramifications. You run the risk of creating entitled people who think they deserve more and more even though they've been paid.

You're punishing an entire world, at best just an entire race (white), for the actions of a few of their fathers

The US has the funds at it's disposal. $7 Trillion just went out over the span of a few weeks over Covid. To correct the damage of the biggest crime in human history that took place over a span of centuries there will be a high price tag

It's not punishment it's repayment and just compensation for work done, free labor and state sanctioned oppression that the USA benefited from which is what put it on top of the world as the wealthiest nation for all of these years. The funds come from the USA and all who benefit from the society we live in today, including the wealthy corporations who have built off legacy money from slave labor (Lehman Brothrrs, JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America etc.) It's not just coming from White people. Technically if it comes from the USA even Blacks would be paying into their own Reparations. It's not about which race or individual pays but it's about the USA and the establishments that reside within paying the debt that is owed and repairing the historical damage.


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Sad_Face posted...

And you wonder why people resent black people so much. Stop hurling the "RACIST!" insult everywhere and start having a conversation. Just ask him, "why do you feel society coddles black people?".

Do you resent black people?

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masticatingman posted...

There would absolutely have to be a genetic cutoff. In the south there are oodles of white af people with a random African American ancestor. Were talking about centuries of genetic dispersal.

If there is ever a singular post that proves that reparations are every bit as stupid as they are racist, it's this one.

MachineJaipur posted...

To be fair if you get called a racist, people treat you as though you might as well be.

That's something peoppe have to work out for themselves. If you know better do better.

Then educate him.

Not my job.

He wasn't referring to the past 400 years. He was specifically referring to today's culture. Where if you bump into a black woman you can be harassed and bullied for an apology and if you defend yourself then all of a sudden you're a racist. If you don't fucking bend the knee and lick their ass, then you're a goddamned piece of shit racist that deserves to be fucking murdered (according to some). That's what he meant by coddling.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/hjuw2m/a_video_of_a_woman_pulling_a_gun_was_posted_here/

This is what I'm referring to with the "bump into a black woman"

A cherry picked conflict between two civilians? That incident is enough to counter the disparities in the medical system, judicial system, and police brutality?

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AlephZero posted...
Would Shaun King qualify for reparations

If he could prove he had a descendant of slavery and if he's been identifying as being Black for all these years

MachineJaipur posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/hjuw2m/a_video_of_a_woman_pulling_a_gun_was_posted_here/

This is what I'm referring to with the "bump into a black woman"

Why did the other woman pull a gun all she had to do was walk away

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Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

No white people are that is why they go into crisis mode whenever we demand what is owed to us

You arent owed anything.

that woman was arrested for felony assault, by the way.

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If you bump into a black lady you should apologize.

It is time we get rid of these people with poor manners.

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MachineJaipur posted...

To be fair if you get called a racist, people treat you as though you might as well be.

Then educate him.

He wasn't referring to the past 400 years. He was specifically referring to today's culture. Where if you bump into a black woman you can be harassed and bullied for an apology and if you defend yourself then all of a sudden you're a racist. If you don't fucking bend the knee and lick their ass, then you're a goddamned piece of shit racist that deserves to be fucking murdered (according to some). That's what he meant by coddling.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/hjuw2m/a_video_of_a_woman_pulling_a_gun_was_posted_here/

This is what I'm referring to with the "bump into a black woman"

The fact that you got so angry towards the end of your post and swore so much is pretty telling. That video was an isolated incident, those bitches were crazy. Has nothing to do with black people as a whole.

Also weird how every single person I've seen posting that version of the video has been white and angry. Probably fantasized they were holding that gun. Finally putting those mean and scary black people in their place.

Racism isn't just created through ignorance, it has lots to do with anger and fear. Both of which you're exhibiting pretty strongly right now

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Money wont solve this problem.

Its based on a feeling of resentment and you cant fix resentment by throwing money at it. It doesnt matter if its $10 or $10 Million to each individual. After its spent, people will gripe that it was not enough and they were cheated. Sadly, I have legal experience seeing this happen to close families who ended up fighting over wills with huge money payouts and big land divisions. They end up hating each other. Eventually, the kids and grandkids start with the same original arguments, then youre back to square one.

Thats not even taking into account the fact youd also have to tax people who are not descendants of slave owners in order to pay for this. It wont end well.

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Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

The US has the funds at it's disposal. $7 Trillion just went out over the span of a few weeks over Covid. To correct the damage of the biggest crime in human history that took place over a span of centuries there will be a high price tag

So we just going to ignore all the other heinous crimes that happened to other cultures? Ethnic genocides and cleansing, entire cultures wiped out for not believing in a specific interpretation of a book? It's the biggest crime in your opinion because it happened to your people.

Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

The US has the funds at it's disposal. $7 Trillion just went out over the span of a few weeks over Covid. To correct the damage of the biggest crime in human history that took place over a span of centuries there will be a high price tag

Yeah and a lot of the stimulus stuff is either going to come back in the form of taxes or just be tacked onto the ever ballooning US debt.

Tack on $15-$20 trillion additional debt overnight and the world economy will crash. And who'll suffer the blame? Black people and their reparations.

Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

It's not punishment it's repayment and just compensation for work done, free labor and state sanctioned oppression that the USA benefited from which is what put it on top of the world as the wealthiest nation for all of these years.

But the people who would actually deserve to be compensated are dead. Unless you feel you deserve payment for work you never did.

Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

It's not about which race or individual pays but it's about the USA and the establishments that reside within paying the debt that is owed and repairing the historical damage.

You want the debt to be paid? Technically there isn't a price tag for the value of human life. I'd be careful setting a precedent here.

Want to repair the historical damage? The damage is done. You want to fix it? Invest in social programs that educate low income black communities. That provide opportunity to low income Black communities so they can quit joining gangs and killing each other.

Do something that will affect real change instead of buying into a pipe dream that has a real chance of blowing up in all of our faces

badwinkles posted...

that woman was arrested for felony assault, by the way.

Do you resent black people?

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badwinkles posted...

that woman was arrested for felony assault, by the way.

Which one?

goldenBoi45 posted...

Also weird how every single person I've seen posting that version of the video has been white and angry. Probably fantasized they were holding that gun. Finally putting those mean and scary black people in their place.

No I got mad because they effectively harassed and bullied her into a corner, wouldn't let her speak, then threatened her husband, followed her to her car, (seemingly) beat her car once, and then when she finally has enough, pulls a gun to defend herself, so she can escape the situation, but before she even leaves they imply they she was going to back over them, all while calling her racist.

Flip the skin colors and the white lady would be flayed alive and hung in the public square for all to see.

goldenBoi45 posted...

Racism isn't just created through ignorance, it has lots to do with anger and fear. Both of which you're exhibiting pretty strongly right now

So since I'm apparently racist now, what should my punishment be? Banned from gamefaqs? Taken out back and shot? Beg forgiveness? Bend the knee? Because apparently it's not your job to educate

TC by your logic shouldn't the money come from descendants of former slave owners if the payment is only to descendants of former slaves?

I understand that you may be thinking "well the entire USA benefited off the back of my ancestors", which is true, but the general idea of reparations specifically is now paying for the actual work that was performed for no pay, and no ability of freedom, by your ancestors.

That means your 14 trillion number becomes even less possible.

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Thatuser posted...

Liberal urban centers are doomed. Get out while you can.

Get out to where, though?

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Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

You can't make real changes without money. Black people will buy land, start businesses and create their own independence once it comes through

All races are able to do so now. I personally know plenty of people who worked hard to get out of complete and absolute poverty.
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goldenBoi45 posted...

Do you resent black people?

Irrelevant question but no. You gotta love yourself and take pride in who you are if you want to find success and happiness in life.

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MachineJaipur posted...

So we just going to ignore all the other heinous crimes that happened to other cultures? Ethnic genocides and cleansing, entire cultures wiped out for not believing in a specific interpretation of a book?

Those should be atoned for too. White supremacy is global and many groups of people were genocided and enslaved over the last 500 years over Colonization and "Exploration". I support all efforts for justice. I feel this is a diversionary deflection tactic. The point is the USA needs to pay what it owes to its citizens and correct the damage done to create a peaceful and just society. Many other groups were pay Reparations even in America so there's no reason why this shouldn't be done

https://twitter.com/KimTallBear/status/1274471135866793984?s=19

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TaZa92 posted...

TC by your logic shouldn't the money come from descendants of former slave owners if the payment is only to descendants of former slaves?

I understand that you may be thinking "well the entire USA benefited off the back of my ancestors", which is true, but the general idea of reparations specifically is now paying for the actual work that was performed for no pay, and no ability of freedom, by your ancestors.

That means your 14 trillion number becomes even less possible.

The slavery system in the USA was created and run systematically by the US government they used them to construct their cities Washington DC, Boston, NYC etc. You can't separate it freon the USA because it was a basically a slaver Nation

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https://twitter.com/KimTallBear/status/1274471135866793984?s=19

Kim sounds nervous. Probably doesn't want the American people voting to repeal some of that money. I think she also just retweeted an Onion article as fact, BTW.

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We should force Britian to pay them. They were the ones that sold us the slaves. Time to collect that money back.

If they don't then we attack.

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Guide posted...

Get out to where, though?

Suburban and rural areas. You wont find any of this crap out there. Especially the looting, and rioting. There's already a mass exodus to them now becuase of the virus.

In regards to reparations though. You need only look at most lottery winners to see how that'll end. That, and how many generations does it take a family line to recover from.....anything?

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you guys know reparations will never happen right

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More reparations?

Screw reparations, let's get that 40 acres and a mule!


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Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

The initial terms being discussed is an initial payment of $15-$20 trillion to the descendants of American slavery specifically. That would be determined via geological research, birth certificate records and census records. Maybe even a universal cut off date to make it simple

Ultimately it's their right to do whatever they want with it. The former slave owners used their profits to gamble buy booze, prostitutes and create cities such as Las Vegas.

If a few fools decide to waste what their ancestors worked hard for then that would be their fate and they deserve what comes to them

I can see it already: 5 years from now, the losers that wasted their reparation checks on drugs and hookers will be demanding more money because it's not fair that they're poor and 'Murica is racist.

The Trent posted...

you guys know reparations will never happen right

keep up the fight against it. you're doing great

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Thatuser posted...

Liberal urban centers are doomed. Get out while you can.

That sounds like a racist post my man

DandyQuackShot posted...

Screw reparations, let's get that 40 acres and a mule!

If it was on fertile and minerally rich land. I'd accept that

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Prismsblade posted...

Suburban and rural areas. You wont find any of this crap out there. Especially the looting, and rioting. There's already a mass exodus to them now becuase of the virus.

In regards to reparations though. You need only look at most lottery winners to see how that'll end. That, and how many generations does it take a family line to recover from.....anything?

What do you think happens when more people move into a rural or suburban area, though? Industry grows.

Also, it doesn't make sense to compare reparations to the amount of money that comes from winning the lottery, c'mon.

That isn't to say I support reparations.

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There already are reparations right now, hint: it's the welfare state

Elmer_Glue posted...

There already are reparations right now, hint: it's the welfare state

You guys are clueless as fuck theres millions of white people living off the welfare state to

Guide posted...

What do you think happens when more people move into a rural or suburban area, though? Industry grows.

Also, it doesn't make sense to compare reparations to the amount of money that comes from winning the lottery, c'mon.

That isn't to say I support reparations.

Not as bad as it is in urban areas now, due to the lack of space, and building restrictions in most citys. Now that more people can work from jome traffic in the citys will decline, population size, demand and subsequently cost.

Also in regards reparations and lottery winnings you can edit the latter to whatever the reparation pay will be and the end result is the same.

But regardless, ultimately people waiting for others to save them in life rather then save themselves never get far. It's one of lifes great filters in a way.

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BeantownHero posted...

keep up the fight against it. you're doing great

i'm just casually posting on a message board, do you think i'm politicking here?
like i'm not writing senators or attending protests about this, calling what i've said a fight against it seems disingenuous
i'm just saying, it's not going to happen and that's just reality
we can't get people to wear masks to protect their own loved ones, you think you're going to get people on board with paying money because other people's ancestors suffering egregiously?

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The Trent posted...

you guys know reparations will never happen right

But, but, but --- a billboard! Surely that will enact real change in making others give money!

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I support reparations but y'all know anyone can waste money on a billboard right?

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Balrog0 posted...

I support reparations but y'all know anyone can waste money on a billboard right?

Out of curiosity, what do you see as the desired outcome of reparations? I'm talking less number of dollars and more what is it supposed to help the people receiving it achieve? And once those reparations have been paid, do you see the slate as being wiped clean or are we right back in the exact same spot we were before?

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Thatuser posted...

Liberal urban centers are doomed. Get out while you can.

Ya cause those Welfare Nicotine beer and lotto addicts living upon them thar hills are going to save the country.
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I think it's good advertising. Imagine if all these nba/nfl athletes, entertainers and musicians used their resources to buy billboards for social change

Wanted posters for officers who murder people, Reparations! Etc. They need to get on this wave and break out that mind control spell they're under

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Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

I think it's good advertising. Imagine if all these nba/nfl athletes, entertainers and musicians used their resources to buy billboards for social change

Wanted posters for officers who murder people, Reparations! Etc. They need to get on this wave and break out that mind control spell they're under

John Lennon wrote that playbook, back in the 70's!

https://imgur.com/wKi559L
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

weird how this liberal urban center is one of the only places in america that have contained COVID

Contained within all the people that live there...

Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

Lol. Black Empowerment is here to stay. The movement is not losing steam its just getting started

How is begging for $ a sign of empowerment?

SiO4 posted...

John Lennon wrote that playbook, back in the 70's!

https://imgur.com/wKi559L

Right! More Black athletes and entertainers need to follow this blueprint. They're afraid of really using their power for some reason. If they really came together they could shake the world

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Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

Right! More Black athletes and entertainers need to follow this blueprint. They're afraid of really using their power for some reason. If they really came together they could shake the world

Well, you see what happened to Colin Kaepernick.
I am not a huge Football fan, but damn was he not out in front of all this shit.
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s0nicfan posted...

Out of curiosity, what do you see as the desired outcome of reparations? I'm talking less number of dollars and more what is it supposed to help the people receiving it achieve? And once those reparations have been paid, do you see the slate as being wiped clean or are we right back in the exact same spot we were before?

The end goal is a full and complete freedom. We need land ownership, home ownership, business ownership and an economic ecosystem in the places that we're living in as well as real political freedom. As of now even in black majority neighborhoods are still dominated politically and economically by non black people due to economic starvation and the history of oppression

Ultimately I believe Black Americans need to work towards independence Nationhood and a Nation on a new foundation of their own to be truly free from this government's white supremacist systems. Reparations is just one piece of the puzzle

Atralis posted...

How is begging for $ a sign of empowerment?

Its not begging and it's not a handout its demanding what's owed. This wouldn't be happening if the USA didn't build itself off free labor, while also continuing to murder unarmed people with no justice for the victims. Eventually that debt was going to be called in

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Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

Eventually that debt was going to be called in

that only works if you have power to collect
wait are you going to start breaking america's kneecaps

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s0nicfan posted...

Out of curiosity, what do you see as the desired outcome of reparations? I'm talking less number of dollars and more what is it supposed to help the people receiving it achieve? And once those reparations have been paid, do you see the slate as being wiped clean or are we right back in the exact same spot we were before?

I think they're morally justified, I haven't given much thought to the structure. The intent is just righting past wrongs. I don't think it wipes the slate clean because there are other things driving modern day disparities and inequities than history, but I do think that it would help. It wouldn't be as good as a more robust social safety net for everyone imo but it would definitely help

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