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Jabodie
07/05/20 9:21:20 PM
#102:


Key words to look up hbox accusations? "Hungrybox accusations" didn't bring up anything relevant.

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Panthera
07/05/20 9:34:00 PM
#103:


Someone posted a tweet saying they had stories about HBox that they would be posting later. They haven't posted yet. HBox made a video addressing his past behavior where he basically says he cheated on his former girlfriend and flirted with girls at tournaments to an extent that he'd understand if they considered it harassment. No details beyond that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYNZJDt5mvc

There's what he has to say. No idea if the stories apparently to be shared will fit within the bounds of what he's admitting or not.

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NightMarishPie
07/05/20 9:41:46 PM
#104:


If that's all there is for Hbox then that's really...not that bad. Morally shitty? Sure. Illegal? No, assuming that's all there is to it.

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An_Actual_Chad
07/05/20 9:43:02 PM
#105:


I miss the days when the disgusting thing about the Smash community was that they didn't bathe.

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CADE FOSTER
07/05/20 9:46:28 PM
#106:


EffectAndCause posted...
To the surprise of absolutely no one.
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BakonBitz
07/06/20 1:07:14 AM
#107:


Panthera posted...
Someone posted a tweet saying they had stories about HBox that they would be posting later. They haven't posted yet. HBox made a video addressing his past behavior where he basically says he cheated on his former girlfriend and flirted with girls at tournaments to an extent that he'd understand if they considered it harassment. No details beyond that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYNZJDt5mvc

There's what he has to say. No idea if the stories apparently to be shared will fit within the bounds of what he's admitting or not.

Yeah, I suppose we'll have to see. His best friend detailed how HBox went through a drastic character change and how he's trying to improve himself, but I just want to say that I appreciate that he just came clean immediately before the statements came out.
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An_Actual_Chad
07/06/20 5:10:53 AM
#108:


Anyone have a theory of why this phenomenon (along with not bathing) is common in the Smash community? Why dont other competitive games have this reputation?

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Zero_Destroyer
07/06/20 5:48:03 AM
#109:


An_Actual_Chad posted...
Anyone have a theory of why this phenomenon (along with not bathing) is common in the Smash community? Why dont other competitive games have this reputation?

it's definitely in other communities. yugioh tournies flatly started having hygiene rules and several FGC people were outed as creepers in the last week, most notably Mr. Wizard

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Cowthief
07/06/20 5:52:39 AM
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Wouldn't surprise me if it were eSports in general

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blur16
07/06/20 6:36:48 AM
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An_Actual_Chad posted...
Anyone have a theory of why this phenomenon (along with not bathing) is common in the Smash community? Why dont other competitive games have this reputation?

That scene, unsurprisingly, seems to attract a less mature crowed of, for lack of a better term, social outcasts who probably don't have a lot of experience socializing. Once they're in that environment of likeminded people, they're able let loose and be themselves In a judgment-free zone. It is here that their stunted maturity, becomes apparent, because you have 20 year olds who both look and act like teenagers.

I speak from experience as a once socially awkward loaner who looked and acted younger than his age and probably (understatement) should've taken more bathes.

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im not 13
07/06/20 6:38:00 AM
#112:


Cowthief posted...
Wouldn't surprise me if it were eSports in general

It is lol

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Ruvan22
07/06/20 2:20:16 PM
#113:


An_Actual_Chad posted...
Anyone have a theory of why this phenomenon (along with not bathing) is common in the Smash community? Why dont other competitive games have this reputation?

Magic The Gathering had (maybe still does) have a stereotype of unbathed/overweight players at competitions, but I (in my experience) don't recall seeing that many high schoolers (let alone middle schoolers) there
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YellowSUV
07/06/20 3:10:46 PM
#114:


An_Actual_Chad posted...
Anyone have a theory of why this phenomenon (along with not bathing) is common in the Smash community? Why dont other competitive games have this reputation?

Having no age brackets to seperate people probably contributes to it. Imagine if kids could be as good as adults at sports and there was no age brackets. You would probably see much more abuse in professional sports leagues then.

Also, this abuse may be common in other communities but it staying under wraps. All this abuse information came out as a deluge. Other communities may have tons of hidden abuse hiding behind a dam waiting to be broken.

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Questionmarktarius
07/06/20 3:19:55 PM
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YellowSUV posted...
Imagine if kids could be as good as adults at sports and there was no age brackets. You would probably see much more abuse in professional sports leagues then.
This shit comes up essentially every olympics.
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YellowSUV
07/06/20 3:24:00 PM
#116:


Questionmarktarius posted...
This shit comes up essentially every olympics.

Yeah, it is common there, especially in events that involve underage people such as gymnastics.


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soulunison2
07/06/20 3:25:49 PM
#117:


Just cancel smash and sakurai
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Lost_All_Senses
07/06/20 3:27:27 PM
#118:


Gamers are garbage >_>. I'm not surprised.

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AIpha_Male
07/06/20 4:15:12 PM
#119:


Smashers not only can't shower, they cant read either.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EEvisu/status/1280030460035334147
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pojr
07/06/20 4:17:15 PM
#120:


Panthera posted...
Someone posted a tweet saying they had stories about HBox that they would be posting later. They haven't posted yet. HBox made a video addressing his past behavior where he basically says he cheated on his former girlfriend and flirted with girls at tournaments to an extent that he'd understand if they considered it harassment. No details beyond that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYNZJDt5mvc

There's what he has to say. No idea if the stories apparently to be shared will fit within the bounds of what he's admitting or not.
hbox's confession was super genuine and legit

with that said, it was a bad idea that he made that video before the accusation came out. because if the confession reveals more than he anticipated, he's going to have to make another video or twitlonger.


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Panthera
07/06/20 4:34:12 PM
#121:


Depends on whether he's telling the truth or not. If he's legit never done anything worse than what he admitted to in the video, there's no problem with him being open with it before any stories surface. If he's done worse than it obviously looks like the same shitty damage control ZeRo tried to pull. I would hope he'd be smart enough to not make that video if he knows there's much worse things he's done that he could be accused of but you never know.

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pojr
07/06/20 4:39:12 PM
#122:


Panthera posted...
Depends on whether he's telling the truth or not. If he's legit never done anything worse than what he admitted to in the video, there's no problem with him being open with it before any stories surface. If he's done worse than it obviously looks like the same shitty damage control ZeRo tried to pull. I would hope he'd be smart enough to not make that video if he knows there's much worse things he's done that he could be accused of but you never know.
this 100%

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Garioshi
07/07/20 8:18:12 AM
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Jabodie
07/07/20 3:07:20 PM
#125:


https://twitter.com/PoorlyAgedStuff/status/1280522749912535040

lmao

and no, the guy that made that tweet isn't Sky.

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BakonBitz
07/07/20 3:32:18 PM
#126:


Even Etika warned us about Sky. Dude's a fucking manipulator. *language*

https://twitter.com/IceColdDreams_/status/1280408163834044418
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Alpha218
07/07/20 3:51:25 PM
#127:


I heard that there were 5 Twitch staff watching his stream, and the one that pulled the plug was his roommate. Unbelievable

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Srk700
07/07/20 4:11:50 PM
#128:


Seems like Keemstar is about to jump into the mix. This shitshow is about to become even more of shitshow.
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Alpha218
07/07/20 6:19:50 PM
#130:


Captain_Qwark posted...
Damn Zero hit a million YouTube subscribers just a few months ago too.

His career was taking off super fast. Now he probably won't make videos and can't go back to playing professionally.

He's fucked
who can say what he's going to do. fact of the matter is he was so mainstream that his channel may be insulated in a sense. he shed some subscribers but people have noticed that his views haven't changed much, yet.

there is a reason why he only disabled comments and left his videos up. a bunch of people are privy to the drama, but even among smash fans, not everyone uses twitter...

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OffTempo
07/07/20 6:28:18 PM
#131:


Holy shit. Videos on YouTube kept getting recommended to me from Smash creators with titles like "This needs to stop" or "We need to hold people accountable" and stuff like that. Assumed it was some stupid tournament drama but I was NOT expecting this. Reading up on this now.

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OffTempo
07/07/20 6:31:37 PM
#132:


All of this is fucked even ZeRo is getting allegations???

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Garioshi
07/07/20 6:32:29 PM
#133:


Sky is the fucking Epstein of Smash god damn

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Jabodie
07/07/20 6:35:22 PM
#134:


Alpha218 posted...
who can say what he's going to do. fact of the matter is he was so mainstream that his channel may be insulated in a sense. he shed some subscribers but people have noticed that his views haven't changed much, yet.

there is a reason why he only disabled comments and left his videos up. a bunch of people are privy to the drama, but even among smash fans, not everyone uses twitter...
Zero may also be able to endure with enough people that don't care or believe he has changed and forgive him tbh. We'll see.

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Alpha218
07/07/20 6:39:07 PM
#135:


OffTempo posted...
All of this is fucked even ZeRo is getting allegations???
He admitted to some serious shit

Garioshi posted...
Sky is the fucking Epstein of Smash god damn
Not to excuse Sky, but he's more comparable to Maxwell. I'd describe him more as a narcissist slumlord personally

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OffTempo
07/07/20 6:41:19 PM
#136:


Yeah I was just reading up on ZeRo's responses. And wow I was not expecting that least of all from him. I don't interact with online communities often so the female smash player thing was a big surprise but the fact that it was like 20 plus people whove done shit is disgusting.

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OffTempo
07/07/20 6:44:10 PM
#137:


ESAM is also in the boat for being a racist sob. I liked ESAM wth.

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OffTempo
07/07/20 7:11:25 PM
#138:


Yo Nairo too... this is so fucking disgusting

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Jabodie
07/07/20 7:12:02 PM
#139:


It's funny watching somebody go through it all days later. Well not that this is funny, just that I know what you're feeling.

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OffTempo
07/07/20 7:32:44 PM
#140:


Its like the fact that theres so many. I know the Smash community is uber toxic at times but I wasnt expecting so much grimy shit to be going on behind the scenes. And the people I was least expecting to be caught up in anything were and thats just a fucking a shocker.

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AceAttorneyist
07/07/20 7:55:17 PM
#141:


I know how you feel, ZeRo was someone I followed almost daily for at least the last few months. I really thought he was a good guy, especially with all those tournaments he made for the prodigy kids. Makes me feel like I'm a bad judge of character.

Edit: All the videos he did when the online tournament was added where he would invade it with the same character and when he would pose as someone else in someone's stream revealing he was ZeRo at the end...I loved those, some of the funniest Smash content I've seen. It's a shame.

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Jabodie
07/07/20 8:03:45 PM
#142:


OffTempo posted...
Its like the fact that theres so many. I know the Smash community is uber toxic at times but I wasnt expecting so much grimy shit to be going on behind the scenes. And the people I was least expecting to be caught up in anything were and thats just a fucking a shocker.
Tbh the only one which really surprised me was Nairo, and mostly because of the bribery. ZeRo like... I could see it. If Leffen had been caught up, that would have really surprised me. I've seen enough of his stuff to know that's he's kinda an asshole, but he's also the sort of asshole that would be really stubborn about morality lol.

But I've met enough creepy, skirting the line kinda dudes and heard enough stories from my female friends to find most of this fairly unsurprising as things that happened. What is kind of surprising is how many people were quiet about everything for years.

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smoke_break
07/07/20 8:04:55 PM
#143:


AceAttorneyist posted...
Makes me feel like I'm a bad judge of character.
Nah, you just never really know. It's not like people openly advertise their depraved secrets.

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Srk700
07/07/20 8:13:40 PM
#144:


OffTempo posted...
Its like the fact that theres so many. I know the Smash community is uber toxic at times but I wasnt expecting so much grimy shit to be going on behind the scenes. And the people I was least expecting to be caught up in anything were and thats just a fucking a shocker.

I know how you feel. Seeing Nairo get exposed is what got me, as he was the only Smash pro whose YouTube videos I found entertaining. It stung even more to hear Keitaro, who was in alot of Nairo's videos, get exposed only about an hour or so after Nairo did.
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OffTempo
07/07/20 8:17:37 PM
#145:


Yeah the ZeRo thing is hitting the worst. Hes always been like one of the rays of light in a toxic community and I always enjoyed his content. Also feels like Im a bad judge of character.

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OffTempo
07/07/20 8:20:51 PM
#146:


Srk700 posted...
I know how you feel. Seeing Nairo get exposed is what got me, as he was the only Smash pro whose YouTube videos I found entertaining. It stung even more to hear Keitaro, who was in alot of Nairo's videos, get exposed only about an hour or so after Nairo did.
Seriously. Was never much of a competitive guy but watching Nairo is what helped introduce me to the scene. And then hearing what he did...

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Slayer_22
07/07/20 8:23:47 PM
#147:


Garioshi posted...
Sky is the fucking Epstein of Smash god damn

Can someone summarize all the Sky house shit? Apparently he was allowing pedophiles to sexually abuse minors hut that's about it.
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OffTempo
07/07/20 8:26:11 PM
#148:


Slayer_22 posted...
Can someone summarize all the Sky house shit? Apparently he was allowing pedophiles to sexually abuse minors hut that's about it.
Would also like to hear more about this. From what I heard Jisu was saying that she was raped in the house multiple times and all the other streamers in the house knew what was going on.

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Calwings
07/07/20 8:29:21 PM
#149:


Western Australia Gang (Little Z, Poppit1, HopCat) and Alpharad are the only Smash content creators I follow that haven't been caught up in any of this. If any of them go down, my interest in Smash as a whole probably dies with it.
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Zero_Destroyer
07/07/20 8:30:35 PM
#150:


Calwings posted...
Western Australia Gang (Little Z, Poppit1, HopCat) and Alpharad are the only Smash content creators I follow that haven't been caught up in any of this. If any of them go down, my interest in Smash as a whole probably dies with it.

as a prominent data collector, australia smash is pretty cool


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Zero_Destroyer
07/07/20 8:33:40 PM
#151:


Slayer_22 posted...
Can someone summarize all the Sky house shit? Apparently he was allowing pedophiles to sexually abuse minors hut that's about it.

basically

-he ran the house based around his needs, displayed cult-leader like behavior

-alcohol was around

-anybody could go in or out, including minors, which is why the above is very relevant

-allowed sex crimes to happen and covered some up

-owes people tens of thousands of dollars

-is a raging narcissist in general, lashed out at a prominent Brawl figure because he wasn't ranked above 80th on a not very serious panel ranking (he was nowhere near top 100 at brawl in general btw)

-would give people pet names, literally called editors "slaves", would use racial slurs to refer to ppl, etc.

-would break people's stuff over minor things

dude's a fucking nonce

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