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The Trent
07/02/20 9:27:11 AM
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oh i don't have an opinion

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Shablagoo
07/02/20 9:27:59 AM
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Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...
Hillary Clinton or any other politician or reporter that tries to pull out the "are you friends with Farrakhan??" Card. They never really cared about us so we don't care one bit what they have to say

Also, Hillary is best friends with Henry fucking Kissinger which is outrageously awful so who is she to question who anyone associates with.

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2Pacavelli
07/02/20 9:31:35 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
Also, Hillary is best friends with Henry fucking Kissinger which is outrageously awful so who is she to question who anyone associates with.

Right they give Black people litmus tests on their associations but never hold their own communities to the same standards. It's just an means of control for them.


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Taharqa_
07/02/20 9:37:00 AM
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AFrench2 posted...
He actually is not. His episode of Donahue was spot-on back in the early 90's. And he is also 100% correct on the main point he has:

The reason white people are afraid of black people is because they know deep down, if blacks get power and rule, then they may treat whites the same way that whites have treated them.

Spot on truth, really. 100%

That has been a fear of a lot of white people since emancipation, that black people would enact revenge.

The woman that lied on Emmitt Till is still alive, living quietly in Mississippi. If we wanted revenge then somebody would have done something to her years ago.

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Shablagoo
07/02/20 9:39:28 AM
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Taharqa_ posted...
The woman that lied on Emmitt Till is still alive, living quietly in Mississippi.

Weird, for some reason I thought shed confessed on her deathbed. (She did confess but she is still alive like you said.)

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alimajor
07/02/20 3:10:03 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Weird, for some reason I thought shed confessed on her deathbed. (She did confess but she is still alive like you said.)

Wait what? Has she faced any consequences for her actions?
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BeyondWalls
07/02/20 5:08:48 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
These people are no better than the people who excuse Trump's behavior. It's the other side of the same coin.

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legendary_zell
07/02/20 5:22:19 PM
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BeyondWalls posted...
These people are no better than the people who excuse Trump's behavior. It's the other side of the same coin.


That's simply false. These people don't have, nor have they ever had any type of institutional power. They didn't make the laws, they didn't lynch people, they didn't have Presidents on their side or put up NOI flags or statutes. There is absolutely not equivalence here and people really need to get out of that reflexive mindset of thinking there must be an equal and opposite response just because another group is also bad. It's the same thing that led people to call the Black Panthers the black equivalent of the KKK until very recently.

That said, the NOI sells people a racist and ahistorical version of black consciousness. It is pulling away black people who want to find self worth, community, and political agency and sending them down the path to being both ineffective and further marginalized. If you want It is far FAR more useful for black people in America to lift up the real stories of black resilience and solidarity in the face of slavery, Jim Crow, and mass incarcertation than it is to make up fake fantasies of white people being created in labs. It's much more useful to join with white people and every other race of people looking for political change that will tear down the race, class, gender, and sexual hierarchies that cause so many problems rather than buying into a weird and insular theology.

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ThisGuyAreSick
07/02/20 5:25:08 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Farrakhan has completely bonkers, hyper-racist views that are not acceptable. Full stop.




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AmericaPrimero
07/02/20 5:44:03 PM
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CADE FOSTER
07/02/20 5:45:01 PM
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AFrench2 posted...
Can't we just agree the US Government killed Malcolm X, MLK, and pretty much any other black well-read leader in the Vietnam era?

yes
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2Pacavelli
07/02/20 9:06:23 PM
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While some are insistent on calling the Nation a hate group comparable to the KKK and are fighting to keep them off air. They're out here in over a hundred cities across the country assisting and aiding people of all nationalities. Our Brothers and Sisters get a bad rap

legendary_zell posted...
That's simply false. These people don't have, nor have they ever had any type of institutional power. They didn't make the laws, they didn't lynch people, they didn't have Presidents on their side or put up NOI flags or statutes. There is absolutely not equivalence here and people really need to get out of that reflexive mindset of thinking there must be an equal and opposite response just because another group is also bad. It's the same thing that led people to call the Black Panthers the black equivalent of the KKK until very recently.

That said, the NOI sells people a racist and ahistorical version of black consciousness. It is pulling away black people who want to find self worth, community, and political agency and sending them down the path to being both ineffective and further marginalized. If you want It is far FAR more useful for black people in America to lift up the real stories of black resilience and solidarity in the face of slavery, Jim Crow, and mass incarcertation than it is to make up fake fantasies of white people being created in labs. It's much more useful to join with white people and every other race of people looking for political change that will tear down the race, class, gender, and sexual hierarchies that cause so many problems rather than buying into a weird and insular theology.

I respect your take and stance

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2Pacavelli
07/02/20 9:23:20 PM
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Other modern works of the Nation

"The monetary worth of 500 full scholarships, a cost of $250,000 each was significant, he added. The free study is a stark contrast to statistics that show most doctors graduate with student loan debt from $250,000 to $650,000.
[...]
Panelists presented the advantages to the program and addressed fears some people may have concerning the unstable historical and negative political relationship between the U.S. and Cuba."

Cuban medical school scholarship program. 500 Students of Muhammads University of Islam were able to become skilled doctors under this scholarship.

And for the cost that would normally take to put 1-2 people through medical school they put 500 young men and women. And they were able to do this by cooperating and working with other nations. Not being adversarial as the US government has been

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/National_News_2/Cuban_medical_school_scholarship_program_5706.shtml

Instead of focusing on the past we should look at the present and future. The Nation is doing great things and truth be told if the USA and powers that be would listen to what they have to say when it comes to dealing with other nations politically and in stopping the warring and bloodshed and evil practices. And if they listened to what they had to say in treating the Black, Brown and even working class White people of this country better. We'd be in a better place today and able to move forward in a positive direction

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The Trent
07/02/20 9:28:45 PM
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can i join

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2Pacavelli
07/02/20 9:29:54 PM
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The Trent posted...
can i join

Sure. Look up a mosque in your city there is probably one

To be honest I'm in the process of joining myself

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The Trent
07/02/20 9:31:45 PM
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is it okay if i'm white though
it's like louisiana white if that helps

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2Pacavelli
07/02/20 9:47:09 PM
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The Trent posted...
is it okay if i'm white though
it's like louisiana white if that helps

I don't know how every local mosque operates but I have seen white people who follow the teachings of the Nation of Islam and attend events like Saviours Day 2020

This is one white person who follows the teachings

https://instagram.com/farmercourtney?igshid=14x2c2ens7b09

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The Trent
07/02/20 9:50:18 PM
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do i have to sign up for instagram

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2Pacavelli
07/02/20 9:54:17 PM
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The Trent posted...
do i have to sign up for instagram

Nope because her page isn't private lol

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The Trent
07/02/20 9:56:21 PM
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no i mean to join the nation

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masterbarf
07/02/20 10:02:55 PM
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Dude can suck my fat Jewish dick.

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chrono625
07/02/20 10:13:13 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
I don't know how every local mosque operates but I have seen white people who follow the teachings of the Nation of Islam and attend events like Saviours Day 2020

This is one white person who follows the teachings

https://instagram.com/farmercourtney?igshid=14x2c2ens7b09

she promotes homeopathy. Shes a nut job.


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2Pacavelli
07/02/20 10:15:37 PM
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The Trent posted...
no i mean to join the nation

Came by this video and this answers the question

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B7cCe_XHkBe/?igshid=1gxddp2zmpwm8

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The Trent
07/02/20 10:30:30 PM
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okay but do i have to sign up for instagram to be a member

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cjsdowg
07/02/20 10:52:19 PM
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Odd that so many people say Farrakhan is racist , yet these same people the honor the people of the CSA.

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Xenozoa425
07/02/20 11:16:00 PM
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I mean, he did used to preach "the white man is the devil" and didn't allow whites in the NOI for many years.

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Tsuyoi3
07/02/20 11:26:55 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
I told him this morning that no one had yet come forward with proof that he ever said, Judaism is a gutter religion, or dirty religion, as I have an outstanding offer of $1000 to anyone who can. - Economist and Presidential Adviser Jude Wanniski

He hasfirst of all; he has not called Judaism a gutter religion

2Pacavelli posted...
The reason was that in Minister Farrakhans vocabulary the phrase dirty religion has a particular meaning.
"He didn't say it, you can't prove it, and even if he did, what he really meant was-"
Reminds of Trump cultists.
And then there's the Yakub lols.

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cjsdowg
07/02/20 11:29:49 PM
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Tsuyoi3 posted...
He didn't say it, you can't prove it, and even if he did, what he really meant was-"
Reminds of Trump cultists.
And then there's the Yakub lols.

And Republicans vote Trump for president, so what do that say about the people who voted for him.

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Tsuyoi3
07/02/20 11:30:49 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
And Republicans vote Trump for president, so what do that say about the people who voted for him.
Idk, that they believe that bullshitery?
And don't realize how fake it is.

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Solid Snake07
07/04/20 12:48:51 AM
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AFrench2 posted...
Can't we just agree the US Government killed Malcolm X


They sure as shit didn't do anything to stop it, and most likely ramped up the animosity and tension between NOI towards Malcolm in the Hope that they would take care of the "problem" for them. And they were absolutely right

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KingArthur3D
07/04/20 12:53:23 AM
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masterbarf posted...
Dude can suck my fat Jewish dick.

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Solid Snake07
07/04/20 2:01:40 AM
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I can't believe there are people seriously naive enough to think Malcolm X wasn't a targeted hit from the nation of Islam.

He publicly aired out Elijah Muhammads dirty laundry and was dead 6 months later. Come on man

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2Pacavelli
07/04/20 9:20:36 AM
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https://youtu.be/pR1ugmwJMRw

Minister Farrakhan is recognized as a world leader and his voice has influence that's why the US government and media hates him and spreads lies

However we don't hate the USA in the Nation of Islam. This is our home. We were born here raised here fought and died here. Blood sweat and tears here.

Minister Farrakhan doesn't say the things he says out of hatred for America. It's out of love for America and a wish to see America do good and avert troubled times and future destruction. We love America and wish to see it do good. I feel it is true patriotism to speak on things even when it's unpopular if you know it is for the better for the country

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