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Philoktetes 06/27/20 10:25:44 PM #1:	I was very angry at the time but I've made my peace --- I don't think so, Tim. ~~ Pizza Crew ~~ <cite>Philoktetes posted [p:941363217] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>I was very angry at the time but I've made my peace</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolamerica 06/27/20 10:29:13 PM #2:	I wish Conan would get one more shot at a network show. <cite>lolamerica posted [p:941363341] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>I wish Conan would get one more shot at a network show. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
J03can 06/27/20 10:29:54 PM #3:	Conan always deserved better --- Jerry, it's Frank Costanza!!! Mr Steinbrenner's here George is dead - call me back!!!! <cite>J03can posted [p:941363370] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>Conan always deserved better </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kisai 06/27/20 10:31:58 PM #4:	No. Also, I can't help but think if Conan stuck it out, he might be back at his 11:00 PM timeslot on the Tonight Show instead of Jimmy Fallon, but who knew Jay was gonna do his new show for just a month, then disappear? --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? <cite>Kisai posted [p:941363452] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>No. Also, I can't help but think if Conan stuck it out, he might be back at his 11:00 PM timeslot on the Tonight Show instead of Jimmy Fallon, but who knew Jay was gonna do his new show for just a month, then disappear? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Admiral_Metroid 06/27/20 10:32:33 PM #5:	No. Fuck Leno <cite>Admiral_Metroid posted [p:941363471] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>No. Fuck Leno </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TommyG663513 06/27/20 10:33:08 PM #6:	Admiral_Metroid posted... No. Fuck Leno --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 <cite>TommyG663513 posted [p:941363495] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>Admiral_Metroid posted... </cite> <quote>No. Fuck Leno</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MT_TRAEH 06/27/20 10:35:28 PM #7:	Admiral_Metroid posted... No. Fuck Leno --- Life is just a journey from the maternity ward to the crematorium. <cite>MT_TRAEH posted [p:941363574] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>Admiral_Metroid posted... </cite> <quote>No. Fuck Leno</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 06/27/20 10:35:40 PM #8:	jay leno didn't do anything wrong he was ready to leave, they kept upgrading their offer until it moved him from 10:00 to 11:30 (it was to be a half hour show). leno said he'd do it (what's he supposed to do, say no?). conan said it would soil the legacy of the tonight show and to keep him at 11:30 or he'd step down....they said it was fine for him to step down and offered leno his old job back. what else was leno supposed to do? am i still mad at NBC? yes, very --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:941363582] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>jay leno didn't do anything wrong he was ready to leave, they kept upgrading their offer until it moved him from 10:00 to 11:30 (it was to be a half hour show). leno said he'd do it (what's he supposed to do, say no?). conan said it would soil the legacy of the tonight show and to keep him at 11:30 or he'd step down....they said it was fine for him to step down and offered leno his old job back. what else was leno supposed to do? am i still mad at NBC? yes, very</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zack_Attackv1 06/27/20 10:56:25 PM #9:	I was never mad to begin with. Leno was always the better comedian. --- ~Poison kiss~ https://imgur.com/ETZeoXP <cite>Zack_Attackv1 posted [p:941364289] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>I was never mad to begin with. Leno was always the better comedian.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 06/27/20 10:57:19 PM #10:	Admiral_Metroid posted... No. Fuck Leno --- Oda break tracker 2020- 4 (5) \| THE Ohio State: 13-1 \| Oakland Raiders: 7-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:941364315] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>Admiral_Metroid posted...</cite> <quote>No. Fuck Leno </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
semen 06/27/20 10:58:14 PM #11:	who? <cite>semen posted [p:941364337] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>who? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 06/27/20 10:58:31 PM #12:	Admiral_Metroid posted... No. Fuck Leno --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. =~=; Vicious_Dios Original - https://tinyurl.com/y9fpdoll <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:941364351] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>Admiral_Metroid posted... </cite> <quote>No. Fuck Leno</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueTigerLion 06/27/20 11:00:04 PM #13:	No_U_L7 posted... jay leno didn't do anything wrong he was ready to leave, they kept upgrading their offer until it moved him from 10:00 to 11:30 (it was to be a half hour show). leno said he'd do it (what's he supposed to do, say no?). conan said it would soil the legacy of the tonight show and to keep him at 11:30 or he'd step down....they said it was fine for him to step down and offered leno his old job back. what else was leno supposed to do? am i still mad at NBC? yes, very Kinda Ironic Conan's did that and his show on TBS ended up being only a half hour anyway. --- Hey now. <cite>BlueTigerLion posted [p:941364400] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>No_U_L7 posted... </cite> <quote>jay leno didn't do anything wrong he was ready to leave, they kept upgrading their offer until it moved him from 10:00 to 11:30 (it was to be a half hour show). leno said he'd do it (what's he supposed to do, say no?). conan said it would soil the legacy of the tonight show and to keep him at 11:30 or he'd step down....they said it was fine for him to step down and offered leno his old job back. what else was leno supposed to do? am i still mad at NBC? yes, very</quote> Kinda Ironic Conan's did that and his show on TBS ended up being only a half hour anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pfh1001 06/27/20 11:08:04 PM #14:	Admiral_Metroid posted... No. Fuck Leno <cite>pfh1001 posted [p:941364649] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>Admiral_Metroid posted...</cite> <quote>No. Fuck Leno </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamerguymass 06/27/20 11:08:55 PM #15:	I love Conan, but the thing people ignore in all of this is that Conan got Leno kicked off the Tonight Show in the first place. Leno was number one in the ratings, he was beating Letterman by something like two million viewers a night, and he wasn't ready to retire yet, but NBC wanted to keep Conan happy so they decided to kick Leno off the air in five years. Leno never wanted to go in the first place but because Conan said he didn't want to do the 12:30 slot forever they decided to basically fire him even though he was a ratings powerhouse. As pissed as Conan may have been, and still is it seems sometimes, he only has himself to blame. If he hadn't forced Leno out in the first place none of this would have happened and he would probably be the host of the Tonight Show right now. --- Now Playing: "The Hunt for the Two Missing Nintendo 64 Games" An expansion came out, but I'm still a third of the way through! <cite>Gamerguymass posted [p:941364673] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>I love Conan, but the thing people ignore in all of this is that Conan got Leno kicked off the Tonight Show in the first place. Leno was number one in the ratings, he was beating Letterman by something like two million viewers a night, and he wasn't ready to retire yet, but NBC wanted to keep Conan happy so they decided to kick Leno off the air in five years. Leno never wanted to go in the first place but because Conan said he didn't want to do the 12:30 slot forever they decided to basically fire him even though he was a ratings powerhouse. As pissed as Conan may have been, and still is it seems sometimes, he only has himself to blame. If he hadn't forced Leno out in the first place none of this would have happened and he would probably be the host of the Tonight Show right now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 06/27/20 11:09:27 PM #16:	nope, still heart broken --- Maketh thy Countries Greateth Again don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:941364689] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>nope, still heart broken </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyrannosaurus 06/27/20 11:27:28 PM #17:	Its NBCs fault, not Jay. NBC gave Jay a 5 year expiration date. When the 5 years were up Leno was still number one rated late host. Conan took over and ratings dropped 49%. They switched to Conan too soon. NBC shouldve stayed with Jay until the time was right. --- Mmmm... Goat... <cite>Tyrannosaurus posted [p:941365271] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>Its NBCs fault, not Jay. NBC gave Jay a 5 year expiration date. When the 5 years were up Leno was still number one rated late host. Conan took over and ratings dropped 49%. They switched to Conan too soon. NBC shouldve stayed with Jay until the time was right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 06/27/20 11:36:51 PM #18:	Um, what? I thought was was still on the air, lol --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:941365578] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>Um, what? I thought was was still on the air, lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 06/27/20 11:41:57 PM #19:	It wasn't really leno's fault. NBC wanted to put him back in that slot. I never really liked Leno, was more or a Letterman fan, but just saying. NBC fucked over conan, not jay --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:941365734] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>It wasn't really leno's fault. NBC wanted to put him back in that slot. I never really liked Leno, was more or a Letterman fan, but just saying. NBC fucked over conan, not jay </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XxKrazyChaosxX 06/27/20 11:49:22 PM #22:	NBC ended up with Jimmy Fallon. He seems like the kind of yes man a company like that wants. --- "I woke up at four am by accident in time for the paper to be delivered. Guess what? It's not a kid on a bike, it's a man in a car." - Kevin Malone <cite>XxKrazyChaosxX posted [p:941365957] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>NBC ended up with Jimmy Fallon. He seems like the kind of yes man a company like that wants. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 06/28/20 12:00:59 AM #23:	NBC went full cuck, gave Conan $40mil and Leno got a few more cars Then they hired a black facer. Leno has his dream job and Conan seems to be very happy with his podcast --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:941366343] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>NBC went full cuck, gave Conan $40mil and Leno got a few more cars Then they hired a black facer. Leno has his dream job and Conan seems to be very happy with his podcast </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamerguymass 06/28/20 12:01:53 AM #24:	DuranOfForcena posted... NBC wanted to put him back in that slot because he whined to them about how he wasn't really ready to step down and he still wanted to host a late night talkshow, so they cleared 5 hours of primetime a week to put him in a new talk show in the 10 o'clock slot, which to no one's surprise didn't go over very well, so they had to do something else to appease him and they didn't really give a fuck about Conan. so, really both NBC and Jay fucked him over. And Conan fucked over Jay in the first place by threatening to leave. The fact is Leno never should have been kicked off the air to begin with. I love Conan, and wish he would bring his hour long show back, but to act like he is innocent in all this is laughable. --- Now Playing: "The Hunt for the Two Missing Nintendo 64 Games" An expansion came out, but I'm still a third of the way through! <cite>Gamerguymass posted [p:941366384] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted... </cite> <quote>NBC wanted to put him back in that slot because he whined to them about how he wasn't really ready to step down and he still wanted to host a late night talkshow, so they cleared 5 hours of primetime a week to put him in a new talk show in the 10 o'clock slot, which to no one's surprise didn't go over very well, so they had to do something else to appease him and they didn't really give a fuck about Conan. so, really both NBC and Jay fucked him over.</quote> And Conan fucked over Jay in the first place by threatening to leave. The fact is Leno never should have been kicked off the air to begin with. I love Conan, and wish he would bring his hour long show back, but to act like he is innocent in all this is laughable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 06/28/20 12:15:08 AM #25:	DuranOfForcena posted... NBC wanted to put him back in that slot because he whined to them about how he wasn't really ready to step down and he still wanted to host a late night talkshow, so they cleared 5 hours of primetime a week to put him in a new talk show in the 10 o'clock slot, which to no one's surprise didn't go over very well, so they had to do something else to appease him and they didn't really give a fuck about Conan. so, really both NBC and Jay fucked him over. Okay, but Jay didn't ask to be moved to 10, that's what NBC decided. Then his ratings went down at the 10 o'clock spot, and he was beating conan's ratings at 11:30 when he had that slot. The real truth of it is if NBC didn't put Jay back at 11:30 he would have just gone to another network. NBC didn't want that to happen so the told conan to move back to 12:30 or kick rocks, and he did. I dont really view that as he "whined for his spot back". He wanted to be at 11:30 and if NBC didn't put him there he'd go to FOX. I don't really fault him for that and it was NBC's call at the end of the day. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:941366810] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted... </cite> <quote>NBC wanted to put him back in that slot because he whined to them about how he wasn't really ready to step down and he still wanted to host a late night talkshow, so they cleared 5 hours of primetime a week to put him in a new talk show in the 10 o'clock slot, which to no one's surprise didn't go over very well, so they had to do something else to appease him and they didn't really give a fuck about Conan. so, really both NBC and Jay fucked him over.</quote> Okay, but Jay didn't ask to be moved to 10, that's what NBC decided. Then his ratings went down at the 10 o'clock spot, and he was beating conan's ratings at 11:30 when he had that slot. The real truth of it is if NBC didn't put Jay back at 11:30 he would have just gone to another network. NBC didn't want that to happen so the told conan to move back to 12:30 or kick rocks, and he did. I dont really view that as he "whined for his spot back". He wanted to be at 11:30 and if NBC didn't put him there he'd go to FOX. I don't really fault him for that and it was NBC's call at the end of the day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 06/28/20 12:18:11 AM #26:	BlueTigerLion posted... Kinda Ironic Conan's did that and his show on TBS ended up being only a half hour anyway. yeah he pointed this out on his first TBS ep --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:941366898] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>BlueTigerLion posted...</cite> <quote> Kinda Ironic Conan's did that and his show on TBS ended up being only a half hour anyway. </quote> yeah he pointed this out on his first TBS ep</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 06/28/20 12:19:25 AM #27:	Solid Snake07 posted... Okay, but Jay didn't ask to be moved to 10, that's what NBC decided. Then his ratings went down at the 10 o'clock spot, and he was beating conan's ratings at 11:30 when he had that slot. The real truth of it is if NBC didn't put Jay back at 11:30 he would have just gone to another network. NBC didn't want that to happen so the told conan to move back to 12:30 or kick rocks, and he did. I dont really view that as he "whined for his spot back". He wanted to be at 11:30 and if NBC didn't put him there he'd go to FOX. I don't really fault him for that and it was NBC's call at the end of the day. it wasnt 12:30, they wanted him to move to 12 --- https://imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:941366936] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote> Okay, but Jay didn't ask to be moved to 10, that's what NBC decided. Then his ratings went down at the 10 o'clock spot, and he was beating conan's ratings at 11:30 when he had that slot. The real truth of it is if NBC didn't put Jay back at 11:30 he would have just gone to another network. NBC didn't want that to happen so the told conan to move back to 12:30 or kick rocks, and he did. I dont really view that as he "whined for his spot back". He wanted to be at 11:30 and if NBC didn't put him there he'd go to FOX. I don't really fault him for that and it was NBC's call at the end of the day. </quote> it wasnt 12:30, they wanted him to move to 12</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 06/28/20 12:20:41 AM #28:	If anything it kind of helped his career overall. Yea it sucks he lost his dream job, but with TBS he has more control over his content and was able to capitalize off the half hour format/youtube integration a lot easier than he would have if he was forced to abide by tonight show rules. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:941366982] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>If anything it kind of helped his career overall. Yea it sucks he lost his dream job, but with TBS he has more control over his content and was able to capitalize off the half hour format/youtube integration a lot easier than he would have if he was forced to abide by tonight show rules. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Too_Many_Limes 06/28/20 12:38:02 AM #29:	It's ultimately NBC's fault for trying to have their cake and eat it too. They didn't want a repeat of the Letterman situation, so they tried to create an orderly succession from Leno to Conan. But they also didn't want to lose Leno or Conan to another network and have to give up another slice of the late-night pie. So in the end, they created a situation that worked for nobody. Leno was unhappy at 10 PM and the show did terribly. Conan was undercut by having his predecessor kicking around and serving as an awful lead-in. And then NBC worsened the situation by trying to walk-back their decision after less than a year, rightfully angering Conan who felt the network didn't have his back (for comparison's sake, Leno did poorly against Letterman for nearly two years before he hit his stride). The smart move would've been to either cut Leno or Conan in 2009 and put the full network weight behind whoever remained. --- Scoop #5: Borash tried to interview Bigfoot, but he ran away, Borash suggested if we dance hard enough he will come back <cite>Too_Many_Limes posted [p:941367560] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>It's ultimately NBC's fault for trying to have their cake and eat it too. They didn't want a repeat of the Letterman situation, so they tried to create an orderly succession from Leno to Conan. But they also didn't want to lose Leno or Conan to another network and have to give up another slice of the late-night pie. So in the end, they created a situation that worked for nobody. Leno was unhappy at 10 PM and the show did terribly. Conan was undercut by having his predecessor kicking around and serving as an awful lead-in. And then NBC worsened the situation by trying to walk-back their decision after less than a year, rightfully angering Conan who felt the network didn't have his back (for comparison's sake, Leno did poorly against Letterman for nearly two years before he hit his stride). The smart move would've been to either cut Leno or Conan in 2009 and put the full network weight behind whoever remained. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BruceStraley 06/28/20 12:59:19 AM #30:	I actually saw the Tonight Show with Conan as a ticket holding audience member (got them for free). The guests were terrible though: Bob Newhart, Kay Deeley (I literally went home and googled her after the show, and Ray Lamontagne or more like sea LamonLame. But Conan and Andy great. The hype comic they got to roast and hype up the audience was cool, but I dont know who he was. The band was dope. But I honestly dont care about talk show host beefs. --- https://youtu.be/6dXkAphfm_E https://youtu.be/9D286zfJ9fI https://youtu.be/L4vD6JpJAFI https://tinyurl.com/yawarg3u <cite>BruceStraley posted [p:941368214] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>I actually saw the Tonight Show with Conan as a ticket holding audience member (got them for free). The guests were terrible though: Bob Newhart, Kay Deeley (I literally went home and googled her after the show, and Ray Lamontagne or more like sea LamonLame. But Conan and Andy great. The hype comic they got to roast and hype up the audience was cool, but I dont know who he was. The band was dope. But I honestly dont care about talk show host beefs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 06/28/20 1:05:26 AM #31:	VipaGTS posted... If anything it kind of helped his career overall. Yea it sucks he lost his dream job, but with TBS he has more control over his content and was able to capitalize off the half hour format/youtube integration a lot easier than he would have if he was forced to abide by tonight show rules. Also this. Conan was never really meant for that show. Tbh late night shows all fucking suck. Conan is the only really funny one in the format these days. Letterman was funny, buy he was old school for me and I'm starting to get pretty old myself. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:941368387] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>VipaGTS posted... </cite> <quote>If anything it kind of helped his career overall. Yea it sucks he lost his dream job, but with TBS he has more control over his content and was able to capitalize off the half hour format/youtube integration a lot easier than he would have if he was forced to abide by tonight show rules.</quote> Also this. Conan was never really meant for that show. Tbh late night shows all fucking suck. Conan is the only really funny one in the format these days. Letterman was funny, buy he was old school for me and I'm starting to get pretty old myself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/28/20 1:07:37 AM #32:	Admiral_Metroid posted... No. Fuck Leno --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:941368452] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>Admiral_Metroid posted... </cite> <quote>No. Fuck Leno</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kajagogo 06/28/20 1:20:10 AM #33:	Admiral_Metroid posted... No. Fuck Leno --- By Grabthar's Hammer....what a savings. <cite>Kajagogo posted [p:941368763] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>Admiral_Metroid posted... </cite> <quote>No. Fuck Leno</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notti 06/30/20 6:52:28 AM #34:	Honestly, I have to say all 3 parties made mistakes. (Leno, Conan, NBC) I also don't believe for a second Conan is happier where he is now. On top of that, it gave us Fallon. Truly a disaster on all fronts. --- https://youtube.com/TheYoungTurks Bernie > Biden > poop > Trump https://RightWingWatch.org http://reddit.com/r/BreadTube http://youtube.com/ChadTheChud <cite>Notti posted [p:941467733] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, I have to say all 3 parties made mistakes. (Leno, Conan, NBC) I also don't believe for a second Conan is happier where he is now. On top of that, it gave us Fallon. Truly a disaster on all fronts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrResetti 06/30/20 7:02:45 AM #35:	You can do anything you set your mind to, unless Jay Leno wants to do it too. --- https://imgur.com/GRZEGPm https://imgur.com/OeMgQZT <cite>MrResetti posted [p:941467893] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>You can do anything you set your mind to, unless Jay Leno wants to do it too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trappedunderice 06/30/20 7:05:24 AM #36:	Zack_Attackv1 posted... I was never mad to begin with. Leno was always the better comedian. Imagine believing this garbage take. <cite>trappedunderice posted [p:941467930] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>Zack_Attackv1 posted... </cite> <quote>I was never mad to begin with. Leno was always the better comedian.</quote>Imagine believing this garbage take. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 06/30/20 7:05:31 AM #37:	Notti posted... I also don't believe for a second Conan is happier where he is now. Are you serious? He owns his own production company. Can do literally whatever he wants in regards to his craft. Has evolved his medium while his peers are woefully behind. Has it set up where he is promoting other comedians shows/acts/etc and giving them a chance to shine. He is in a far better place than an NBC cog and he knows it. As for the whole half-hour thing people are talking about, you all know he started out at an hour? And the only reason he shrunk it down to a half hour is because he saw talk-shows were getting old fashioned and he wanted to just focus on a single interview right? And his whole move to online. As for who was at fault? NBC for the whole thing. Jay for being a bitch and not wanting to leave when he promised he would. I do not understand how Conan is at fault at all. He got pissed that promises were being broken. --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:941467931] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>Notti posted... </cite> <quote>I also don't believe for a second Conan is happier where he is now.</quote> Are you serious? He owns his own production company. Can do literally whatever he wants in regards to his craft. Has evolved his medium while his peers are woefully behind. Has it set up where he is promoting other comedians shows/acts/etc and giving them a chance to shine. He is in a far better place than an NBC cog and he knows it. As for the whole half-hour thing people are talking about, you all know he started out at an hour? And the only reason he shrunk it down to a half hour is because he saw talk-shows were getting old fashioned and he wanted to just focus on a single interview right? And his whole move to online. As for who was at fault? NBC for the whole thing. Jay for being a bitch and not wanting to leave when he promised he would. I do not understand how Conan is at fault at all. He got pissed that promises were being broken. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 06/30/20 9:28:55 AM #38:	Notti posted... Honestly, I have to say all 3 parties made mistakes. (Leno, Conan, NBC) I also don't believe for a second Conan is happier where he is now. On top of that, it gave us Fallon. Truly a disaster on all fronts. What did Conan do wrong? --- Oda break tracker 2020- 4 (5) \| THE Ohio State: 13-1 \| Oakland Raiders: 7-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:941471108] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>Notti posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly, I have to say all 3 parties made mistakes. (Leno, Conan, NBC) I also don't believe for a second Conan is happier where he is now. On top of that, it gave us Fallon. Truly a disaster on all fronts.</quote> What did Conan do wrong?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notti 07/02/20 6:37:23 AM #39:	Kastrada posted... Are you serious? He owns his own production company. Can do literally whatever he wants in regards to his craft. Has evolved his medium while his peers are woefully behind. Has it set up where he is promoting other comedians shows/acts/etc and giving them a chance to shine. He is in a far better place than an NBC cog and he knows it. As for the whole half-hour thing people are talking about, you all know he started out at an hour? And the only reason he shrunk it down to a half hour is because he saw talk-shows were getting old fashioned and he wanted to just focus on a single interview right? And his whole move to online. As for who was at fault? NBC for the whole thing. Jay for being a bitch and not wanting to leave when he promised he would. I do not understand how Conan is at fault at all. He got pissed that promises were being broken. Conan is absolutely my favorite, and was the funniest host at the time by far. Leno was always a bit of a snore. But. He could have done plenty while working at NBC and kept the clout and money and legacy. No doubts he'd be happier if he stayed at NBC. On top of that I recall him making a comment about how his biggest concerns at the time was making sure his crew was secure with the move and their paychecks etc. I don't see the change being to his advantage, nor his crew's. I blame all 3 parties. voldothegr8 posted... What did Conan do wrong? His negotiating and trying to force Leno out wasn't a good idea. Sometimes when you get pushy, you realize your company doesn't need you as much as you think. --- https://youtube.com/TheYoungTurks Bernie > Biden > poop > Trump https://RightWingWatch.org http://reddit.com/r/BreadTube http://youtube.com/ChadTheChud <cite>Notti posted [p:941561151] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kastrada posted...</cite> <quote> Are you serious? He owns his own production company. Can do literally whatever he wants in regards to his craft. Has evolved his medium while his peers are woefully behind. Has it set up where he is promoting other comedians shows/acts/etc and giving them a chance to shine. He is in a far better place than an NBC cog and he knows it. As for the whole half-hour thing people are talking about, you all know he started out at an hour? And the only reason he shrunk it down to a half hour is because he saw talk-shows were getting old fashioned and he wanted to just focus on a single interview right? And his whole move to online. As for who was at fault? NBC for the whole thing. Jay for being a bitch and not wanting to leave when he promised he would. I do not understand how Conan is at fault at all. He got pissed that promises were being broken. </quote> Conan is absolutely my favorite, and was the funniest host at the time by far. Leno was always a bit of a snore. But. He could have done plenty while working at NBC and kept the clout and money and legacy. No doubts he'd be happier if he stayed at NBC. On top of that I recall him making a comment about how his biggest concerns at the time was making sure his crew was secure with the move and their paychecks etc. I don't see the change being to his advantage, nor his crew's. I blame all 3 parties. <cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote> What did Conan do wrong?</quote> His negotiating and trying to force Leno out wasn't a good idea. Sometimes when you get pushy, you realize your company doesn't need you as much as you think.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 07/03/20 10:12:54 AM #40:	Notti posted... He could have done plenty while working at NBC and kept the clout and money and legacy. No doubts he'd be happier if he stayed at NBC. With how that company treated him, there is no way he would have been happier. At all. Money and clout is something Conan has never shown to care about. He wants to make people laugh and entertain his audience. The legacy to an extent but he's always held The Tonight Show as something bigger than him. Notti posted... His negotiating and trying to force Leno out wasn't a good idea. What are you talking about? The network made promises and broke them to "appease" both him and Leno. Conan was getting screwed every which way. The president of the network was openly critical of him. Leno was pushing himself back into the spotlight. Conan did nothing wrong. --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:941614225] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>Notti posted... </cite> <quote>He could have done plenty while working at NBC and kept the clout and money and legacy. No doubts he'd be happier if he stayed at NBC.</quote> With how that company treated him, there is no way he would have been happier. At all. Money and clout is something Conan has never shown to care about. He wants to make people laugh and entertain his audience. The legacy to an extent but he's always held The Tonight Show as something bigger than him. Notti posted... </cite> <quote>His negotiating and trying to force Leno out wasn't a good idea.</quote> What are you talking about? The network made promises and broke them to "appease" both him and Leno. Conan was getting screwed every which way. The president of the network was openly critical of him. Leno was pushing himself back into the spotlight. Conan did nothing wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 07/03/20 10:14:37 AM #41:	No, but I was never a Leno fan to begin with. I used to watch The Late Show and then switched over to Late Night after it was done. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:941614287] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>No, but I was never a Leno fan to begin with. I used to watch The Late Show and then switched over to Late Night after it was done. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 07/03/20 11:22:40 AM #42:	I really doubt Conans TBS show was cut just because its simply what he wanted. I bet it was probably falling ratings. And if the ratings were falling its because he would waste so much time at the beginning interacting with fans who are holding signs or wearing orange wigs. And in between jokes hed waste time referring to the same audience member. Four or so jokes hardly counts as a monologue. I love Conan I just hate what his show devolved into over the years before the runtime was cut. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:941616557] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>I really doubt Conans TBS show was cut just because its simply what he wanted. I bet it was probably falling ratings. And if the ratings were falling its because he would waste so much time at the beginning interacting with fans who are holding signs or wearing orange wigs. And in between jokes hed waste time referring to the same audience member. Four or so jokes hardly counts as a monologue. I love Conan I just hate what his show devolved into over the years before the runtime was cut. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 07/03/20 11:24:16 AM #43:	He ruined WCW too. --- 2020 going to be a CE kind of year ~ Panthera <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:941616623] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>He ruined WCW too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VTBM 07/03/20 11:30:47 AM #44:	Fuck NBC --- https://imgur.com/e7sCCSb <cite>VTBM posted [p:941616832] in Have you f... [t:78808484]...</cite> <quote>Fuck NBC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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