Current Events > Here's a cop who definitely isn't part of that whopping, massive 40%

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Tactical_Spork
06/21/20 9:27:58 AM
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https://youtu.be/Arsx6i08xWc

Full disclosure, according to comments this stop happened over 2 years ago; this is still absolutely fucking insane and basically nothing short of I literally just killed a guy and hes in my trunk would make this even approaching acceptable.

Defund em, abolish em, fire every last one and replace a very extremely small fraction of them with new cops who are given competent training, then dont have them carry guns at all times.

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Squall28
06/21/20 9:30:03 AM
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Tactical_Spork posted...


Defund em, abolish em, fire every last one and replace a very extremely small fraction of them with new cops who are given competent training, then dont have them carry guns at all times.

Let's cure cancer and end world hunger while we are at it.

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ASithLord7
06/21/20 9:30:37 AM
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Squall28 posted...
Let's cure cancer and end world hunger while we are at it.
Go back to your racist trolling and shut the fuck up bootlicker

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Blightzkrieg
06/21/20 9:30:59 AM
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Squall28 posted...
Let's cure cancer and end world hunger while we are at it.
You know these are things people are actively trying to do right

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PIITB415
06/21/20 9:32:03 AM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Go back to your racist trolling and shut the fuck up bootlicker

Go back to being broke

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Tactical_Spork
06/21/20 9:32:33 AM
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Squall28 posted...
Let's cure cancer and end world hunger while we are at it.
problems that cannot feasibly be solved and medical questions that have decades of research ahead of them to even approach a solution are much different than a problem with a very simple cause and effect and completely straightforward solution.

1312

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Tactical_Spork
06/21/20 9:32:51 AM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
You know these are things people are actively trying to do right
And also this, yes

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Mark_DeRosa
06/21/20 9:34:10 AM
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The 40 percent number is not accurate, idk how many times Ive posted it...

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R1masher
06/21/20 9:34:29 AM
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Did they drag him out of the car?.... I hate cliffhangers

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Tactical_Spork
06/21/20 9:34:50 AM
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Mark_DeRosa posted...
The 40 percent number is not accurate, idk how many times Ive posted it...
Sure

I mean it probably isnt accurate, look at how the fucking pigs react when people try to hold them accountable for murder, imagine trying to report domestic violence at the hands of one. I would imagine it is woefully underreported.

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Infinite 2003
06/21/20 9:35:23 AM
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Tactical_Spork posted...
then dont have them carry guns at all times.

Its a good thing America isnt a country where people walk around with guns all the time or that would a really stupid idea.


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AlmightyCheeks
06/21/20 9:36:13 AM
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Tactical_Spork posted...
Defund em, abolish em, fire every last one
Let's lock up all the blacks cuz a few have committed murder.

Sounds dumb doesnt it?

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HydraSlayer82
06/21/20 9:36:58 AM
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That dude is a sack of shit.

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Mark_DeRosa
06/21/20 9:38:30 AM
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The 40% number is wrong and plain old bad science. In attempt to recreate the numbers, by the same researchers, they received a rate of 24% while including violence as shouting. Further researchers found rates of 7%, 7.8%, 10%, and 13% with stricter definitions and better research methodology.
The 40% claim is intentionally misleading and unequivocally inaccurate. Numerous studies over the years report domestic violence rates in police families as low as 7%, with the highest at 40% defining violence to include shouting or a loss of temper. The referenced study where the 40% claim originates is Neidig, P.H.., Russell, H.E. & Seng, A.F. (1992). Interspousal aggression in law enforcement families: A preliminary investigation. It states:

An additional study conducted by the same researcher, which reported rates of 24%, suffer from additional flaws:
The study is a survey and not an empirical scientific study. The study was not a random sample, and was isolated to high ranking officers at a police conference. This study also occurred nearly 30 years ago.
More current research, including a larger empirical study with thousands of responses from 2009 notes, 'Over 87 percent of officers reported never having engaged in physical domestic violence in their lifetime.' Blumenstein, Lindsey, Domestic violence within law enforcement families: The link between traditional police subculture and domestic violence among police (2009). Graduate Theses and Dissertations. http://scholarcommons.usf.edu/etd/1862


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Broseph_Stalin
06/21/20 9:39:18 AM
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can we stop pretending cops are curb stomping protesters because they never had training or whatever
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Tactical_Spork
06/21/20 9:39:19 AM
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AlmightyCheeks posted...
Let's lock up all the blacks cuz a few have committed murder.

Sounds dumb doesnt it?
yes your post sounds insanely fucking dumb

People arent born pigs, and becoming a pig is willfully committing yourself to harassing and inflicting violence upon the public as an openly-stated and poorly-trained part of your job description.

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MrMallard
06/21/20 9:39:29 AM
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Tactical_Spork posted...
1312
The fuck is this

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Squall28
06/21/20 9:40:33 AM
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Tactical_Spork posted...
problems that cannot feasibly be solved and medical questions that have decades of research ahead of them to even approach a solution are much different than a problem with a very simple cause and effect and completely straightforward solution.

1312

Do you not think they've actively been trying to improve police? If it's as easy as you think it is, it would've been done already.

Not saying we shouldn't try to improve, but the blow up method is just as unfeasible.

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AlmightyCheeks
06/21/20 9:41:13 AM
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Tactical_Spork posted...
yes your post sounds insanely fucking dumb

People arent born pigs, and becoming a pig is willfully committing yourself to harassing and inflicting violence upon the public as an openly-stated and poorly-trained part of your job description.
So let's lump all the good cops in with the bad?

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Blightzkrieg
06/21/20 9:41:37 AM
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Squall28 posted...
Do you not think they've actively been trying to improve police? If it's as easy as you think it is, it would've been done already.
They throw a bitch fit when murderers get arrested

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AlmightyCheeks
06/21/20 9:42:43 AM
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Conflict posted...
Gosh I sure love it when people aren't smart enough to differentiate a race and an occupation
It's an example genius but I shouldn't be suprised it went over the heads of some on this board

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Tactical_Spork
06/21/20 9:42:44 AM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
can we stop pretending cops are curb stomping protesters because they never had training or whatever
No dude they just train retail and fast food workers better to not kill people when they get sworn at bro its literally just the traini bro its the trainjng i swear the cops just need better training they wouldnt kill people for non-compliance with unlawful and nonsensical demands if they had better training it has nothing to do with the occupation actively courting violent, insecure, and unstable people with massive egos and an insatiable need for control and power

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Tactical_Spork
06/21/20 9:43:27 AM
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AlmightyCheeks posted...
So let's lump all the good cops in with the bad?
good cops

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Squall28
06/21/20 9:43:35 AM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Go back to your racist trolling and shut the fuck up bootlicker

Name one racist thing I have said.

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Tactical_Spork
06/21/20 9:44:14 AM
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Squall28 posted...
Do you not think they've actively been trying to improve police? If it's as easy as you think it is, it would've been done already.
They are not, and it has not been because they dont want it to lol

use your big boy brain, come on now

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Tactical_Spork
06/21/20 9:46:02 AM
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Mark_DeRosa posted...

lmao nah

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AlmightyCheeks
06/21/20 9:48:38 AM
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Tactical_Spork posted...
good cops
Oh you're a conspiracy theorist. Might wanna get that checked out

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Tactical_Spork
06/21/20 9:51:17 AM
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oh yeah also pigs killed another latino kid, an 18 year old boy, execution style in a driveway, destroyed all video evidence, broke security cameras, took the dvr and pulled a warrant after the fact, and then one was smiling and smirking at his family at the scene of the murder. Nobody had called the pigs. They showed up and pulled guns on him, he ran and got on his knees with his hands behind his head, and they executed him with 7 shots in the back. His name was Andrs Guardado.

Every single fucking cop is a bastard.

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Tactical_Spork
06/21/20 9:52:02 AM
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AlmightyCheeks posted...
Oh you're a conspiracy theorist. Might wanna get that checked out
There are no good cops, because by putting on that uniform every day they remain complicit in a violent and unjust system. This is not a conspiracy, it is a very simple and objective evaluation of morality.

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ThyCorndog
06/21/20 9:59:46 AM
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"But I've only had good encounters with cops"

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Squall28
06/21/20 10:00:35 AM
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Tactical_Spork posted...
They are not, and it has not been because they dont want it to lol

use your big boy brain, come on now

Way to show you have zero life experience Mr. BigBoyBrain. One of the first things you learn in the workforce are that organizations are fucked up, and fixing things are never that easy.

But yeah, I'm sure all these Twitter followers know more about how to do law enforcement than people who make a career out of it

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Tactical_Spork
06/21/20 10:03:32 AM
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Squall28 posted...
Way to show you have zero life experience Mr. BigBoyBrain. One of the first things you learn in the workforce are that organizations are fucked up, and fixing things are never that easy.

But yeah, I'm sure all these Twitter followers know more about how to do law enforcement than people who make a career out of it
The people who make a career out of it are not fit to make a career out of it and genuinely do not know how to do it. Reform has not come because then they would not be an oppressive occupying force, which is their intended function.

I dont know what about this you arent getting, its right there and you just keep taking hard-ass turns to avoid getting to the point

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Tactical_Spork
06/21/20 10:04:18 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Its amazing how you can show a video of cops doing fucked up shit and people still come in to boot lick.
Imagine seeing this unhinged fucking maniac and going yeah ima go to bat for this right quick

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FortuneCookie
06/21/20 10:05:55 AM
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Tactical_Spork posted...
Defund em, abolish em, fire every last one and replace a very extremely small fraction of them with new cops who are given competent training, then dont have them carry guns at all times.

Sound advice from an impractical eating utensil.

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Tactical_Spork
06/21/20 10:10:13 AM
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Conflict posted...
You didn't answer the question.

What is indicating that they've been actively trying to improve the police? "It's not an easy feat" is not an answer.
If he stops handwringing about it being kinda hard you guys then he has to admit they aint did shit and that the bullshit-ass incrementalist approach is intended to placate and pacify while upholding the status quo, rather than to bring about meaningful change.

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Number090684
06/21/20 10:11:50 AM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
can we stop pretending cops are curb stomping protesters because they never had training or whatever

This. That's a excuse they occasionally trick people into buying and spouting when they overstep their bounds and violate our rights. Most cops and the government don't give a fuck about violating our rights or even killing us as long as they can probably get away with it.

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Monolith1676
06/21/20 10:12:27 AM
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King_Hellebuyck
06/21/20 10:12:34 AM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
can we stop pretending cops are curb stomping protesters because they never had training or whatever
This is a good point. Cops are doing this because they want to.

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Monolith1676
06/21/20 10:17:05 AM
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Conflict posted...
As touching as that story is it doesn't invalidate the inherent corruption of the police force

There are far more positive encounters than encounters that end in tragedy.

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ThyCorndog
06/21/20 10:21:06 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
You say this as if thats not the expectation for literally every job. If a pilot decided to crash a plane, no one would be saying well he flew well yesterday so I dont know what everyone is so upset about. Dont fly if you dont want your plane to crash.
"it's a hard job. I want to see you fly a plane without crashing it"

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ReturnOfThaJedi
06/21/20 10:24:22 AM
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Monolith1676 posted...
There are far more positive encounters than encounters that end in tragedy.
That doesnt make the The negative encounters more acceptable

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Tactical_Spork
06/21/20 10:31:06 AM
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Monolith1676 posted...
There are far more positive encounters than encounters that end in tragedy.

Tactical_Spork posted...
by putting on that uniform every day they remain complicit in a violent and unjust system. This is not a conspiracy, it is a very simple and objective evaluation of morality.


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