Poll of the Day > Fans are HATING The Last of Us II with a 3.3. USER SCORE on Metacritic.

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Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...

Zombies?

That's the series with the cordicep zombies, right?

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Lokarin posted...

That's the series with the cordicep zombies, right?

cordyceps?

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Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...

cordyceps?

ya, I spelled it wrong 'cuz, like, i don't know how it's spelled

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"Fans" are not reviewing bombing this game.

Wanded posted...

There is no one who could have possibly finished the game yet lol

Folk sometimes get games early.

Revelation34 posted...

The professional video game reviews are paid for.

By that logic if the game got low reviews by professionals that too was also paid for. Of course this is stupid logic and this argument has never made much sense but here we are. Rather than looking at a score and screaming "paid review" how about reading the context of said reviews?

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Is this the last jedi of video games? People get triggered if you don't like it?

People get triggered either way

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Metalsonic66 posted...

People get triggered either way

do they though

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Yes. The people who hate it get triggered when people like it.

The people who like it get triggered when people hate it.

Same goes for Last Jedi I suppose.

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The same goes for literally any piece of media. The difference here is the people who hate it havent played it.

FourthDimension posted...

The same goes for literally any piece of media.

Some media is certainly more divisive, though.

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I find myself more trustful of user reviews because it seems like every huge AAA title gets a good metacritic score

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deoxxys posted...

I find myself more trustful of user reviews because it seems like every huge AAA title gets a good metacritic score

yeah obviously reviews from people who havent played the game are more genuine

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Mead posted...

yeah obviously reviews from people who havent played the game are more genuine

I mean thats not typically the norm.

A site like Steam where I get most of my user reviews, requires you to own the game.

If anything user reviews are actually usually more forgiving then the metacritic score.
I have noticed the trend for myself is:
I tend to enjoy a game if its got a metacritic score over 80, where as usually a user review has to have over 88% positive reviews.

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User reviews loved Justice League

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Metalsonic66 posted...

User reviews loved Justice League

That was a great show though.
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Metalsonic66 posted...

User reviews loved Justice League

lmao

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deoxxys posted...

I mean thats not typically the norm.

A site like Steam where I get most of my user reviews, requires you to own the game.

If anything user reviews are actually usually more forgiving then the metacritic score.
I have noticed the trend for myself is:
I tend to enjoy a game if its got a metacritic score over 80, where as usually a user review has to have over 88% positive reviews.

this topic isnt about steam reviews my dude

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Im just pointing out user reviews can be more trustworthy then critics scores, its relevant.

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The only thing Ive learned from user reviews is that when it comes to AAA games, a really low score is usually not indicative of the games actual quality, but of things surrounding the game. Like politics, business practices of the publisher/dev, etc.

Revelation34 posted...

That was a great show though.

True, but you know what I meant!

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deoxxys posted...

Im just pointing out user reviews can be more trustworthy then critics scores, its relevant.

is it really though

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So all politics aside how's everyone enjoying their Quasimodo escort mission: the game so far.

Youre not really escorting anyone. You sometimes have AI companions who are never a hindrance and are sometimes helpful.

deoxxys posted...

Im just pointing out user reviews can be more trustworthy then critics scores, its relevant.

Not when review bombing is in play, ok?

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Aculo posted...

Not when review bombing is in play, ok?

agreed, as long as we are certain its review bombing.

Wait till the troll reviews are removed and things even out.

There must have been a legitimate reason so many people were irked enough in the first place.

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deoxxys posted...

There must have been a legitimate reason so many people were irked enough in the first place.

Having played some of the game all I can say it's probably SJW nonsense that these review bombers are salty about. They also probably decided to read the leaks and not play the game. Also Joels death. I'm really enjoying the game and although I do think "why" and some story beats I'm not done with the game yet so those things will be explained. All I can say is the first game was about love and this one is about revenge. The gameplay is also very much improved and it's certainly not a low scoring game.

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The game has been pretty amazing for me so far. I haven't finished it, so I can't fully say if I like the story, but even if it falls flat, I don't think there is anyway I could consider it a bad game. Review bombing is mostly from the anti-SJW crowd and others who just want the game to be very similar to the first one.

I like the bold choices in the story so far, but I generally prefer a story that may challenge me in unexpected ways. Just like a novel or a tv show, to me the ending doesn't not necessarily ruin the journey. For example, I am a fan of the novel The Stand, but I think the ending is pretty bad.

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Archgoat posted...

The game has been pretty amazing for me so far. I haven't finished it, so I can't fully say if I like the story, but even if it falls flat, I don't think there is anyway I could consider it a bad game.

It certainly isn't.


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Archgoat posted...

Just like a novel or a tv show, to me the ending doesn't not necessarily ruin the journey. For example, I am a fan of the novel The Stand, but I think the ending is pretty bad.

You must have never played Mass Effect 3.
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Revelation34 posted...

You must have never played Mass Effect 3.

I just got it, I don't know if I should replay 1 and 2 first for continuity

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Revelation34 posted...

You must have never played Mass Effect 3.

I have. 1 and 2 are still great games regardless.

No. It deserves worse.

Lokarin posted...

I just got it, I don't know if I should replay 1 and 2 first for continuity

Doesn't really matter since the choices don't matter. ME1 was the best one though.
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wwinterj25 posted...

By that logic if the game got low reviews by professionals that too was also paid for.

Not really. It's significantly easier to buy a positive review for your own game than to buy a negative review for an opponent's game. Most often, "buying" reviews isn't literally handing the reviewer a bribe so much as it is offering a lucrative marketing partnership with the review site or threatening to stop sending review copies (preventing future reviews and costing the site traffic and therefore revenue) over bad reviews. To get a bad review for somebody else's game, you do have to provide a more explicit bribe, and that has enormous potential to backfire if it comes to light, so it's much less common.

Judgmenl posted...

Only story based games that are of any value are CRPGs and JRPGs because they're the only ones not afraid to have 50+ hour narratives.

It's exceedingly rare for anything to have a 50+ hour narrative because it's basically impossible to drag out a story for that long without some serious padding and/or telling multiple different stories and pretending that counts as one. You can spend 50+ hours working your way through a narrative, certainly, but most of that is going to be gameplay in the vast majority of cases.

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Revelation34 posted...

Doesn't really matter since the choices don't matter. ME1 was the best one though.

look at you with your accurate opinion

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Revelation34 posted...

You must have never played Mass Effect 3.

I have, and agree the ending sucked. However, it didn't ruin my enjoyment of the previous 2 games, nor even the 3rd game up to that point. I get your point though, the ending to mass effect does ruin some of the narrative in the prior games. The individual stories and gameplay still holds up though. If the ending of The Last of Us 2 is on that level of bad, I will certainly be critical of it, but as of right now I am enjoying the game as a whole quite a bit. The story has been a bit predictable would be my only complaint so far.

adjl posted...

It's exceedingly rare for anything to have a 50+ hour narrative because it's basically impossible to drag out a story for that long without some serious padding and/or telling multiple different stories and pretending that counts as one. You can spend 50+ hours working your way through a narrative, certainly, but most of that is going to be gameplay in the vast majority of cases.

Honestly JRPGs are only that long because of the battles. Especially if you have to grind. I remember Lost Odyssey being mostly FMVs so the game itself was very short.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with people explaining why they didn't buy the game. Reviews are a pretty good way to do that. After I knew the story and watched part of a playthrough I didn't want to get it anymore so I would suggest people look into the story before potentially wasting their money. And I don't see the need to spend $90CAD to see if my opinion changes before I comment on the game at all.

Don't assume review sites are protecting you from spoilers for your enjoyment's sake. They were forced to do so by Sony so people would be tricked into buying the game.

acesxhigh posted...

They were forced to do so by Sony so people would be tricked into buying the game

dude

this is stupid

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I feel bad for Ready at Dawn. They made some of the best games on PSP but Sony wasn't willing to bribe reviewers for the Order.

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Mead posted...

dude

this is stupid

no, it's a fact and facts can't be stupid

acesxhigh posted...

no, it's a fact and facts can't be stupid

if its a fact then Im sure you can provide some evidence that it is true

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Mead posted...

if its a fact then Im sure you can provide some evidence that it is true

False DMCA claims.
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Revelation34 posted...

You must have never played Mass Effect 3.

Played all three and the ending didn't ruin anything for me.

adjl posted...

Not really. It's significantly easier to buy a positive review for your own game than to buy a negative review for an opponent's game. Most often, "buying" reviews isn't literally handing the reviewer a bribe so much as it is offering a lucrative marketing partnership with the review site or threatening to stop sending review copies (preventing future reviews and costing the site traffic and therefore revenue) over bad reviews. To get a bad review for somebody else's game, you do have to provide a more explicit bribe, and that has enormous potential to backfire if it comes to light, so it's much less common.

Point is if you think some reviews are paid for then that should apply to both negative and positive reviews. Of course it doesn't though because those who make abused comments about paid reviews are only doing that to try and diminish a game getting praise. The paid review stuff has never made much sense to me.

acesxhigh posted...

I don't think there's anything wrong with people explaining why they didn't buy the game. Reviews are a pretty good way to do that.

Actually reviews are for those who have actually played the game. Watching it on youtube doesn't warrant a review and certainly doesn't warrant review bombing.

After I knew the story and watched part of a playthrough I didn't want to get it anymore so I would suggest people look into the story before potentially wasting their money. And I don't see the need to spend $90CAD to see if my opinion changes before I comment on the game at all.

Watching part of a story doesn't mean you know the whole narrative and you certainly don't know how it plays. Not interested in the game? That's fine but people really don't care about your purchase decisions and you shouldn't feel the need to get validation for those.


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10 hours in, still waiting for the game too suck. If anything, it's still remarkably true to the original, ok?

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