Current Events > California is in trouble...

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https://twitter.com/sfchronicle/status/1272927783157731328

Yikes.

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the whole country is in trouble, it's gonna get a lot worse

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Is it just me or is California always in trouble?

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I'm sick of all the panic mongering. Are we just supposed to sacrifice our economy and huge parts of our civilization until there's a vaccine (which might take 5 years or may never come)?

GodIsImaginary posted...

I'm sick of all the panic mongering. Are we just supposed to sacrifice our economy and huge parts of our civilization until there's a vaccine (which might take 5 years or may never come)?

yes <3

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Wheres that topic saying California had no new cases lol

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GodIsImaginary posted...

I'm sick of all the panic mongering. Are we just supposed to sacrifice our economy and huge parts of our civilization until there's a vaccine (which might take 5 years or may never come)?

How many of your family members are you willing to let die to keep the economy moving?

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Its the masks, my cousin in cali says theyre not wearing masks

You don't have to stay at home to stay healthy, just use precautions. Wear a mask, wash your hands. Don't touch your face. Don't go to restaurants or into large crowds.


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YugiNoob posted...

Wheres that topic saying California had no new cases lol

Yeah until we have a vaccine or treatment, we can't get cocky. My area in NY is doing fucking fantastic at the moment, but I'm not going to take it for granted, this virus can spread so fast that things can go backwards pretty quickly.

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ScazarMeltex posted...

How many of your family members are you willing to let die to keep the economy moving?

50,000 people die in car accidents every year, you're okay with that sacrifice so we can keep driving.

TheHoldSteady posted...

You don't have to stay at home to stay healthy, just use precautions. Wear a mask, wash your hands. Don't touch your face. Don't go to restaurants or into large crowds.

Masks are tyranny bro.

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I mean it's pretty deceiving to report a "100% increase" when the cases went from 1 case to 2 cases...

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LeperMessiahXX posted...

Yeah until we have a vaccine or treatment, we can't get cocky. My area in NY is doing fucking fantastic at the moment, but I'm not going to take it for granted, this virus can spread so fast that things can go backwards pretty quickly.

im in NYC, Im cautiously optimistic, I went to the beach at midnight last week and jr was awesome to see everyone socially distancing and with their masks so I have some hope

Behind a paywall cant read the article

GodIsImaginary posted...

I'm sick of all the panic mongering. Are we just supposed to sacrifice our economy and huge parts of our civilization until there's a vaccine (which might take 5 years or may never come)?

It's projected for December.

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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78775257

So who is right?

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GodIsImaginary posted...

50,000 people die in car accidents every year, you're okay with that sacrifice so we can keep driving.

Personally, once autonomous vehicle technology is truly reliable I believe we should seriously consider outlawing manual driving. I also believe much more funding needs to go to US public transit, and part of that benefit is getting drivers of the roads for safety reasons.

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GodIsImaginary posted...

50,000 people die in car accidents every year, you're okay with that sacrifice so we can keep driving.

On average 90 people a day die from car accidents. The US lost over 400 lives yesterday from Covid-19 and at it's peak lost around 2000 lives a day. If that many people died every day from car accidents in America, actions would be taken.

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soulunison2 posted...

im in NYC, Im cautiously optimistic, I went to the beach at midnight last week and jr was awesome to see everyone socially distancing and with their masks so I have some hope

Nice to hear. I live upstate is Saratoga County, we're wearing masks and social distancing as well. I have honestly been impressed with this area, I hope it continues

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LeperMessiahXX posted...

On average 90 people a day die from car accidents. The US lost over 400 lives yesterday from Covid-19 and at it's peak lost around 2000 lives a day. If that many people died every day from car accidents in America, actions would be taken.

400 lives of 80 year olds with pre-existing conditions


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seqntenialbeast posted...

400 lives of 80 year olds with pre-existing conditions

And so because they are old and unhealthy they deserve to die in a way that is preventable?

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Squall28 posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78775257

So who is right?

Isn't incubation period a couple weeks? And covid tracers aren't asking if people who test positive went to protests anyway. If other areas handling it like NYC.

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MC_BatCommander posted...

the whole country is in trouble, it's gonna get a lot worse

will republicans apologize?

seqntenialbeast posted...

400 lives of 80 year olds with pre-existing conditions

Braindead take

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I live in a time where panic and fear are stricken across the populace of the world. Where man makes what machines he pray upon. Service to those who suffer most greatly. But detracts little, from the nature of love or power. Perhaps more than that?

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*America
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It's not just 80 year olds dying. Also even surviving it can leave you with long lasting effects that alter your life. It's not just dying that you need to be concerned with.

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Squall28 posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78775257

So who is right?

The increase is because of reopening only. The protests did not cause an increase.

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More proof of NorCal's superiority. They should break off and be their own state and not bring the bay area or Sac with them.

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LeperMessiahXX posted...

Yeah until we have a vaccine or treatment, we can't get cocky. My area in NY is doing fucking fantastic at the moment, but I'm not going to take it for granted, this virus can spread so fast that things can go backwards pretty quickly.

NY is doing okay because everyone in NY already caught it so they're all immune.

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EndOfDiscOne posted...

The increase is because of reopening only. The protests did not cause an increase.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/09/coronavirus-whats-the-risk-for-george-floyd-protesters/

The Bedford analysis offers two different scenarios for crowd counts of 600,000 people, based on news sources and Wikipedia estimates of daily protests in more than 400 cities.

One estimate is low, assuming a fatality rate of 0.5% and a transmission rate of 0.9 one person with the disease infects, on average, 0.9 others. This scenario would lead to 1,500 new infections each day and 15,000 secondary infections among protestors friends and family, eventually causing 50 to 75 deaths. The higher estimate assumes a transmission rate of 0.95 and a fatality rate of 1%. This scenario would lead to 3,000 new infections a day and a total of 54,000 secondary infections, causing 500-540 deaths.

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"X people die from car accidents"

Yeah those are accidents and they happen. Covid deaths are preventable, but go on.

TheHoldSteady posted...

You don't have to stay at home to stay healthy, just use precautions. Wear a mask, wash your hands. Don't touch your face. Don't go to restaurants or into large crowds.

The problem is we need everyone to be doing this. As it is now there's probably less than 30% of people in America actively practicing any of these guidelines.

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CommonStar posted...

"X people die from car accidents"

Yeah those are accidents and they happen. Covid deaths are preventable, but go on.

Car accidents are entirely preventable, if we ban private car ownership.

MC_BatCommander posted...

the whole country is in trouble, it's gonna get a lot worse

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I see we're still going with the car accident argument.

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Car accidents aren't fucking contagious. I didn't spread my traumatic leg injury to my family.

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I'm going to the protest tonight. Wish me luck, guys!

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Orlando_Jordan posted...

I'm going to the protest tonight. Wish me luck, guys!

We all need to stay home or we're going to kill granny. Also, you're a hero for doing this.

GodIsImaginary posted...

We all need to stay home or we're going to kill granny. Also, you're a hero for doing this.

Hm. I can sense the false dichotomy here. Perhaps police brutality is viewed as a greater threat, and worth the risk, unlike haircuts or restaurants.

It's still dangerous, and I hope people protect themselves, but tear gas makes the situation even more dangerous.

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EndOfDiscOne posted...

The increase is because of reopening only. The protests did not cause an increase.

no shit Sherlock.

ScazarMeltex posted...

How many of your family members are you willing to let die to keep the economy moving?

guess supporting protests isnt important to you but dont try and bring everyone down who is by saying this. We are protesting for a good reason.

Bleuets posted...

guess supporting protests isnt important to you but dont try and bring everyone down who is by saying this. We are protesting for a good reason.

I'm 100% in favor of the protests. I think my posting record on this board makes that fairly clear. The protests haven't caused any significant increase nor did I ever claim they did. There are in fact multiple articles posted here with research that prove that the protests haven't. My statement was directed at the poster who was like "hurr durr, we can't stay inside forever, gotta keep the economy moving"

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GodIsImaginary posted...

I'm sick of all the panic mongering. Are we just supposed to sacrifice our economy and huge parts of our civilization until there's a vaccine (which might take 5 years or may never come)?

or until the virus dies down on its own eventually. but either way, yes. the economy should be staggered as long as is needed to save lives

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Squall28 posted...

It's projected for December.

Hopefully you're right, because the entire argument for keeping the lockdowns going indefinitely is premised on the hope that we'll get a vaccine soon. Otherwise, we're just killing the economy and delaying herd immunity, when the same number of people will die regardless.

Yep. Many COVID19 and masks deniers. Can't say I didn't see this coming.

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GodIsImaginary posted...

Hopefully you're right, because the entire argument for keeping the lockdowns going indefinitely is premised on the hope that we'll get a vaccine soon. Otherwise, we're just killing the economy and delaying herd immunity, when the same number of people will die regardless.

Herd immunity does not work like that.

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