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Antifar 06/15/20 8:48:36 AM #1:	https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/15/trump-glide-reelection-republican-officials-316457 By most conventional indicators, Donald Trump is in danger of becoming a one-term president. The economy is a wreck, the coronavirus persists, and his poll numbers have deteriorated. But throughout the Republican Partys vast organization in the states, the operational approach to Trumps re-election campaign is hardening around a fundamentally different view. Interviews with more than 50 state, district and county Republican Party chairs depict a version of the electoral landscape that is no worse for Trump than six months ago and possibly even slightly better. According to this view, the coronavirus is on its way out and the economy is coming back. Polls are unreliable, Joe Biden is too frail to last, and the media still doesnt get it. The more bad things happen in the country, it just solidifies support for Trump, said Phillip Stephens, GOP chairman in Robeson County, N.C., one of several rural counties in that swing state that shifted from supporting Barack Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016. Were calling him Teflon Trump. Nothings going to stick, because if anything, its getting more exciting than it was in 2016. This year, Stephens said, Were thinking landslide. Five months before the election, many state and county Republican Party chairs predict a close election. Yet from the Eastern seaboard to the West Coast and the battlegrounds in between, there is an overriding belief that, just as Trump defied political gravity four years ago, theres no reason he wont do it again. Andrew Hitt, the state party chairman in Wisconsin, said that during the height of public attention on the coronavirus, in late March and early April, internal polling suggested some sagging off where we wanted to be. But now, he said, Things are coming right back where we want them That focus on the economy and on re-opening and bringing America back is resonating with people. In Ohio, Jane Timken, the state party chair, said she sees no evidence of support for Trump slipping. Jennifer Carnahan, the chairwoman of the Minnesota Republican Party, said the same. And Lawrence Tabas, the chairman of the Pennsylvania Republican Party, went so far as to predict that Trump would not only carry his state, but beat Biden by more than 100,000 votes more than twice the margin he mustered in 2016. Contrary to what may be portrayed in the media, theres still a high level of support out there, said Kyle Hupfer, chairman of the Indiana Republican Party. He described himself as way more optimistic than he was at this point in 2016. The Republican Party apparatus that Trump heads in 2020 is considerably different than the one that looked at him warily in 2016. At the state level, many chairs who were considered insufficiently committed to the president were ousted and replaced with loyalists. But their assessments would be easier to dismiss as spin if the perception of Trumps durability did not reach so far beyond GOP officialdom. When pollsters ask Americans who they think will win the election not who they are voting for themselves Trump performs relatively well. And if anything, Trumps field officers appear more bullish than Trump and some of his advisers. Even the president, while lamenting what he views as unfair treatment by his adversaries, has privately expressed concerns about his poll numbers and publicly seemed to acknowledge he is down. If I wasnt constantly harassed for three years by fake and illegal investigations, Russia, Russia, Russia, and the Impeachment Hoax, Id be up by 25 points on Sleepy Joe and the Do Nothing Democrats, he said on Twitter last week. Very unfair, but it is what it is!!! Yet in the states, the Republican Party's rank-and-file are largely unconvinced that the president is precariously positioned in his reelection bid. The narrative from the Beltway is not accurate, said Joe Bush, chairman of the Republican Party in Muskegon County, Mich., which Trump lost narrowly in 2016. Here in the heartland, everybody is still very confident, more than ever. At the center of the disconnect between Trump loyalists assessment of the state of the race and the one based on public opinion polls is a distrust of polling itself. Republicans see an industry that maliciously oversamples Democrats or under-samples the white, non-college educated voters who are most likely to support Trump. They say it is hard to know who likely voters are this far from the election. And like many Democrats, they suspect Trump supporters disproportionately hang up on pollsters, under-counting his level of support. Ted Lovdahl, chairman of the Republican Party in Minnesotas 8th Congressional District, said he has friends who will tell pollsters just exactly the opposite of what they feel. When he asked one of them why, his friend told him, I dont like some of their questions. Its none of their business what I do. Recalling that polls four years ago failed to predict the outcome, Jack Brill, acting chairman of the local Republican Party in Sarasota County, Fla., said, I used to be an avid poll watcher until 2016 Guess what? Im not watching polls. Instead, as they prepare for a post-lockdown summer of party picnics and parades, Republican Party organizers sense the beginnings of an economic recovery that, if sustained, is likely to power Trump to a second term. They also see a more immediate opening in the civil unrest surrounding the death of George Floyd. The further and further the Democrats tack left, and the further you get to where its the defunding the police, said Scott Frostman, GOP chairman in Wisconsins Sauk County, which Obama won easily in 2012 but flipped to Trump four years later. I think we have the opportunity as Republicans to talk to people a little bit more about some common sense things. Biden has rejected a national movement to defund police departments. But elections are often painted in broad strokes, and local party officials expect Trump with his law and order rhetoric will be the beneficiary of what they see as Democratic overreach. The other side is overplaying its hand, going down roads like defunding the police and nonsense like that, said Michael Burke, chairman of the Republican Party in Pinal County, Arizona, a Trump stronghold in 2016. Most of the American people are looking like that saying, Really? By most objective measures, Trump will need something to drag Biden down. He has fallen behind Biden in most swing state polls, and he lags the former vice president nationally by more than 8 percentage points, according to the RealClearPolitics polling average. A Gallup poll last week put Trumps approval rating at just 39 percent, down 10 percentage points from a month ago. Democrats appear competitive not only in expected swing states, but in places such as Iowa and Ohio, which Trump won easily in 2016. Little of that data is registering, however. State and local officials point to Trumps financial and organizational advantages and see Biden as a weak opponent. Theyre eager for Trump to eviscerate him in debates. While the Democrats have been spending their time playing Paper Rock Scissors [Antifar's note: real fucked way to name this game] on who their nominee is going to be, weve been building an army, said Terry Lathan, chair of the Alabama Republican Party. Ah, the Romney approach --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:940697698] in GOP offici... [t:78773305]...</cite> <quote>https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/15/trump-glide-reelection-republican-officials-316457 <quote>By most conventional indicators, Donald Trump is in danger of becoming a one-term president. The economy is a wreck, the coronavirus persists, and his poll numbers have deteriorated. But throughout the Republican Partys vast organization in the states, the operational approach to Trumps re-election campaign is hardening around a fundamentally different view. Interviews with more than 50 state, district and county Republican Party chairs depict a version of the electoral landscape that is no worse for Trump than six months ago and possibly even slightly better. According to this view, the coronavirus is on its way out and the economy is coming back. Polls are unreliable, Joe Biden is too frail to last, and the media still doesnt get it. The more bad things happen in the country, it just solidifies support for Trump, said Phillip Stephens, GOP chairman in Robeson County, N.C., one of several rural counties in that swing state that shifted from supporting Barack Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016. Were calling him Teflon Trump. Nothings going to stick, because if anything, its getting more exciting than it was in 2016. This year, Stephens said, Were thinking landslide. Five months before the election, many state and county Republican Party chairs predict a close election. Yet from the Eastern seaboard to the West Coast and the battlegrounds in between, there is an overriding belief that, just as Trump defied political gravity four years ago, theres no reason he wont do it again. Andrew Hitt, the state party chairman in Wisconsin, said that during the height of public attention on the coronavirus, in late March and early April, internal polling suggested some sagging off where we wanted to be. But now, he said, Things are coming right back where we want them That focus on the economy and on re-opening and bringing America back is resonating with people. In Ohio, Jane Timken, the state party chair, said she sees no evidence of support for Trump slipping. Jennifer Carnahan, the chairwoman of the Minnesota Republican Party, said the same. And Lawrence Tabas, the chairman of the Pennsylvania Republican Party, went so far as to predict that Trump would not only carry his state, but beat Biden by more than 100,000 votes more than twice the margin he mustered in 2016. Contrary to what may be portrayed in the media, theres still a high level of support out there, said Kyle Hupfer, chairman of the Indiana Republican Party. He described himself as way more optimistic than he was at this point in 2016. The Republican Party apparatus that Trump heads in 2020 is considerably different than the one that looked at him warily in 2016. At the state level, many chairs who were considered insufficiently committed to the president were ousted and replaced with loyalists. But their assessments would be easier to dismiss as spin if the perception of Trumps durability did not reach so far beyond GOP officialdom. When pollsters ask Americans who they think will win the election not who they are voting for themselves Trump performs relatively well. And if anything, Trumps field officers appear more bullish than Trump and some of his advisers. Even the president, while lamenting what he views as unfair treatment by his adversaries, has privately expressed concerns about his poll numbers and publicly seemed to acknowledge he is down. If I wasnt constantly harassed for three years by fake and illegal investigations, Russia, Russia, Russia, and the Impeachment Hoax, Id be up by 25 points on Sleepy Joe and the Do Nothing Democrats, he said on Twitter last week. Very unfair, but it is what it is!!! Yet in the states, the Republican Party's rank-and-file are largely unconvinced that the president is precariously positioned in his reelection bid. The narrative from the Beltway is not accurate, said Joe Bush, chairman of the Republican Party in Muskegon County, Mich., which Trump lost narrowly in 2016. Here in the heartland, everybody is still very confident, more than ever. At the center of the disconnect between Trump loyalists assessment of the state of the race and the one based on public opinion polls is a distrust of polling itself. Republicans see an industry that maliciously oversamples Democrats or under-samples the white, non-college educated voters who are most likely to support Trump. They say it is hard to know who likely voters are this far from the election. And like many Democrats, they suspect Trump supporters disproportionately hang up on pollsters, under-counting his level of support. Ted Lovdahl, chairman of the Republican Party in Minnesotas 8th Congressional District, said he has friends who will tell pollsters just exactly the opposite of what they feel. When he asked one of them why, his friend told him, I dont like some of their questions. Its none of their business what I do. Recalling that polls four years ago failed to predict the outcome, Jack Brill, acting chairman of the local Republican Party in Sarasota County, Fla., said, I used to be an avid poll watcher until 2016 Guess what? Im not watching polls. Instead, as they prepare for a post-lockdown summer of party picnics and parades, Republican Party organizers sense the beginnings of an economic recovery that, if sustained, is likely to power Trump to a second term. They also see a more immediate opening in the civil unrest surrounding the death of George Floyd. The further and further the Democrats tack left, and the further you get to where its the defunding the police, said Scott Frostman, GOP chairman in Wisconsins Sauk County, which Obama won easily in 2012 but flipped to Trump four years later. I think we have the opportunity as Republicans to talk to people a little bit more about some common sense things. Biden has rejected a national movement to defund police departments. But elections are often painted in broad strokes, and local party officials expect Trump with his law and order rhetoric will be the beneficiary of what they see as Democratic overreach. The other side is overplaying its hand, going down roads like defunding the police and nonsense like that, said Michael Burke, chairman of the Republican Party in Pinal County, Arizona, a Trump stronghold in 2016. Most of the American people are looking like that saying, Really? By most objective measures, Trump will need something to drag Biden down. He has fallen behind Biden in most swing state polls, and he lags the former vice president nationally by more than 8 percentage points, according to the RealClearPolitics polling average. A Gallup poll last week put Trumps approval rating at just 39 percent, down 10 percentage points from a month ago. Democrats appear competitive not only in expected swing states, but in places such as Iowa and Ohio, which Trump won easily in 2016. Little of that data is registering, however. State and local officials point to Trumps financial and organizational advantages and see Biden as a weak opponent. Theyre eager for Trump to eviscerate him in debates. While the Democrats have been spending their time playing Paper Rock Scissors [Antifar's note: real fucked way to name this game] on who their nominee is going to be, weve been building an army, said Terry Lathan, chair of the Alabama Republican Party.</quote> Ah, the Romney approach</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheHoldSteady 06/15/20 8:51:22 AM #2:	Biden is barely even campaigning even so --- If she says we partied, then I'm pretty sure we partied. I really don't remember. I remember we departed from our bodies. <cite>TheHoldSteady posted [p:940697756] in GOP offici... [t:78773305]...</cite> <quote>Biden is barely even campaigning even so </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 06/15/20 9:00:09 AM #3:	Trump is right around Carter's approval numbers, and he lost 46 states. So yes, it'll be a landslide. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:940697967] in GOP offici... [t:78773305]...</cite> <quote>Trump is right around Carter's approval numbers, and he lost 46 states. So yes, it'll be a landslide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Propane4Sale 06/15/20 9:00:46 AM #4:	ruh roh --- Strickland Propane & Propane Accessories "Taste the Heat, not the Meat!" <cite>Propane4Sale posted [p:940697979] in GOP offici... [t:78773305]...</cite> <quote>ruh roh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 06/15/20 9:01:14 AM #5:	That focus on the economy and on re-opening and bringing America back is resonating with people. Yeah, the 16% unemployment and surging cases in GOP states is really resonating. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:940697994] in GOP offici... [t:78773305]...</cite> <quote>That focus on the economy and on re-opening and bringing America back is resonating with people. Yeah, the 16% unemployment and surging cases in GOP states is really resonating. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/15/20 9:03:16 AM #6:	Many local GOP officials are literally crazy That said idk, imo economy hurts Trump but the protests help him That said I don't think the protests will be a top of mind issue in November but the shitty economy will still be shitty --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:940698044] in GOP offici... [t:78773305]...</cite> <quote>Many local GOP officials are literally crazy That said idk, imo economy hurts Trump but the protests help him That said I don't think the protests will be a top of mind issue in November but the shitty economy will still be shitty </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marthsheretoo 06/15/20 9:04:50 AM #7:	You commented on Paper Rock Scissors, but not Teflon Trump? --- "Even MarthKoopa has jumped on the MarthKoopa hate wagon." -DevsBro <cite>marthsheretoo posted [p:940698091] in GOP offici... [t:78773305]...</cite> <quote>You commented on Paper Rock Scissors, but not Teflon Trump? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Error1355 06/15/20 9:05:03 AM #8:	DarkRoast posted... That focus on the economy and on re-opening and bringing America back is resonating with people. Yeah, the 16% unemployment and surging cases in GOP states is really resonating. Killing your voters is a bold strategy that few have tried. We'll see how it plays out. --- Welcome home, shed your skin and expose your bones. Take my hand, follow us into the black so far that we can't get back. <cite>Error1355 posted [p:940698101] in GOP offici... [t:78773305]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted... </cite> <quote>That focus on the economy and on re-opening and bringing America back is resonating with people. Yeah, the 16% unemployment and surging cases in GOP states is really resonating.</quote>Killing your voters is a bold strategy that few have tried. We'll see how it plays out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Takuya Lee 06/15/20 9:10:12 AM #9:	Error1355 posted... Killing your voters is a bold strategy that few have tried. We'll see how it plays out. Spoilers: not well. GOP officials are misreading the info out there. If they don;t figure out things soon, they will lose A LOT of power after the election. It's not that Biden is a strong opponent. It's that everyone hates Trump and wants him gone. That is a very strong motivator, especially if things get worse in the next few months. --- I'm just passing through. Remember that. <cite>Takuya Lee posted [p:940698227] in GOP offici... [t:78773305]...</cite> <quote>Error1355 posted... </cite> <quote>Killing your voters is a bold strategy that few have tried. We'll see how it plays out.</quote> Spoilers: not well. GOP officials are misreading the info out there. If they don;t figure out things soon, they will lose A LOT of power after the election. It's not that Biden is a strong opponent. It's that everyone hates Trump and wants him gone. That is a very strong motivator, especially if things get worse in the next few months. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
onedarksoul 06/15/20 9:13:31 AM #10:	Takuya Lee posted... It's that everyone hates Trump and wants him gone CE/261 =/= everyone --- Finish a game? Add it to our list! Beat 1,000 games: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/213-nonstop-gaming-general/78475094 <cite>onedarksoul posted [p:940698338] in GOP offici... [t:78773305]...</cite> <quote>Takuya Lee posted... </cite> <quote>It's that everyone hates Trump and wants him gone</quote>CE/261 =/= everyone </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/15/20 9:14:15 AM #11:	onedarksoul posted... CE/261 =/= everyone His approval ratings are under water in Arkansas --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:940698354] in GOP offici... [t:78773305]...</cite> <quote>onedarksoul posted... </cite> <quote>CE/261 =/= everyone</quote> His approval ratings are under water in Arkansas </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaWarrior455 06/15/20 9:17:38 AM #12:	The Republican officials must be living in a parallel reality --- Super Bowl 52 Champions!!!! http://myanimelist.net/animelist/NinjaWarrior457 <cite>NinjaWarrior455 posted [p:940698442] in GOP offici... [t:78773305]...</cite> <quote>The Republican officials must be living in a parallel reality </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stalolin 06/15/20 9:18:43 AM #13:	NinjaWarrior455 posted... The Republican officials must be living in a parallel reality business as usual. <cite>Stalolin posted [p:940698467] in GOP offici... [t:78773305]...</cite> <quote>NinjaWarrior455 posted... </cite> <quote>The Republican officials must be living in a parallel reality</quote> business as usual. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sauceje 06/15/20 9:22:45 AM #14:	Takuya Lee posted... GOP officials are misreading the info out there. If they don;t figure out things soon, they will lose A LOT of power after the election. It's not that Biden is a strong opponent. It's that everyone hates Trump and wants him gone. That is a very strong motivator, especially if things get worse in the next few months. It worked for Bolsonaro lol He managed to be paired with the only candidate that would lose to him in the runoff phase despite the fact that every other candidate was a better option in every aspect Hopefully this won't happen again in 2022 but I'm not holding my breath --- He was born in a coop, raised in a cage, children fear him, critics rage, He's half alive, he's half dead, folks just call him Buckethead <cite>sauceje posted [p:940698585] in GOP offici... [t:78773305]...</cite> <quote>Takuya Lee posted... </cite> <quote>GOP officials are misreading the info out there. If they don;t figure out things soon, they will lose A LOT of power after the election. It's not that Biden is a strong opponent. It's that everyone hates Trump and wants him gone. That is a very strong motivator, especially if things get worse in the next few months.</quote>It worked for Bolsonaro lol He managed to be paired with the only candidate that would lose to him in the runoff phase despite the fact that every other candidate was a better option in every aspect Hopefully this won't happen again in 2022 but I'm not holding my breath </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
onedarksoul 06/15/20 9:24:24 AM #15:	Balrog0 posted... His approval ratings are under water in Arkansas No he isn't. He's +2, per RCP. --- Finish a game? Add it to our list! Beat 1,000 games: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/213-nonstop-gaming-general/78475094 <cite>onedarksoul posted [p:940698626] in GOP offici... [t:78773305]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>His approval ratings are under water in Arkansas</quote>No he isn't. He's +2, per RCP. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/15/20 9:26:07 AM #16:	onedarksoul posted... No he isn't. He's +2, per RCP. That's in a match up against Biden... Not his approval rating. If you look at the poll you'll see --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:940698677] in GOP offici... [t:78773305]...</cite> <quote>onedarksoul posted... </cite> <quote>No he isn't. He's +2, per RCP.</quote> That's in a match up against Biden... Not his approval rating. If you look at the poll you'll see </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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